CV Rework Discussion

[KillStealBoss]

1 minute ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Which is terrible and is the same reason why i avoid spotting the enemy CV foe to long with my planes. My team suicides into the enemy trying to kill a spotted CV

Yeah, in RTS times fire was a problem as you were spotted for such long distance long time, 5 sec now helps a lot.

[B051LjKo]

Community response so far has been excellent, a lot more respect for CV player, much better game diversity, WG finally made some real progress. Great patch.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 3 Minuten, MacArthur92 sagte:

Yeah, in RTS times fire was a problem as you were spotted for such long distance long time, 5 sec now helps a lot.

The spotting of a CV during key moments can be devastating. But usually a spotted CV currently doesn't care if they are spotted because nothing that can touch me can kill me from that distance anyways.

But if i get set on fire however then that implies that there is a ship close enough to do that right? So why would it matter anyways that im on fire if a ship is close enough to spot me anyways?

 

@B051LjKo

 

I love you atm ♡

[KillStealBoss]

1 minute ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

But usually a spotted CV currently doesn't care if they are spotted because nothing that can touch me can kill me from that distance anyways

Wait for the Slava . While in tests killed me one time on GZ (full hp) and almost killed me (4-6k hp left) on Kaga and Haku. Ofc the enemy cv came across all map to kill me off 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Gerade eben, MacArthur92 sagte:

Wait for the Slava . While in tests killed me one time on GZ (full hp) and almost killed me (4-6k hp left) on Kaga and Haku. Ofc the enemy cv came across all map to kill me off 

You avoid that by positioning the CV near the middle of your base facing towards the enemy spawn.

You are angled and basically untouchable.

[artic_99]

Vor 9 Minuten, L0V3_and_PE4CE sagte:

Which is terrible and is the same reason why i avoid spotting the enemy CV foe to long with my planes. My team suicides into the enemy trying to kill a spotted CV

Normally just two bbs are enough. A bb deals like 10k+ per Salvo on a CV. If they take sometimes if the cv is spotted a shot on him they would easily kill it in 10 min or less. People in bbs are unfortunately to dumb to do so. That's why there are so many people complaining. 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 1 Minute, artic_99 sagte:

Normally just two bbs are enough. A bb deals like 10k+ per Salvo on a CV. If they take sometimes if the cv is spotted a shot on him they would easily kill it in 10 min or less. People in bbs are unfortunately to dumb to do so. That's why there are so many people complaining. 

10minutes is half the game duration...

In which the CV can move away...

[KillStealBoss]

4 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

You avoid that by positioning the CV near the middle of your base facing towards the enemy spawn.

You are angled and basically untouchable.

I didn’t expect a BB to take me out from 22km full hp.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 1 Minute, MacArthur92 sagte:

I didn’t expect a BB to take me out from 22km full hp.

I remember when i had this Yamato player on my team typing in chat all Caps "SPOT CV NUB I CAN SHOT"

And i was in my GZ and was like wtf.

So i spotted the enemy CV and he blapped that CV.

I was suprised.

[artic_99]

Vor 5 Minuten, L0V3_and_PE4CE sagte:

10minutes is half the game duration...

In which the CV can move away...

Of course... But we think of bad cv players don't we? 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Gerade eben, artic_99 sagte:

Of course... But we think of bad cv players don't we? 

Oh...

[KillStealBoss]

8 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

I remember when i had this Yamato player on my team typing in chat all Caps "SPOT CV NUB I CAN SHOT"

And i was in my GZ and was like wtf.

So i spotted the enemy CV and he blapped that CV.

I was suprised.

On Yama? ?!!?! 

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 10 Minuten, MacArthur92 sagte:

On Yama? ?!!?! 

 In all my matches since rework that happend once ☆

[KillStealBoss]

1 minute ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

 In all my matches since rework that happend once ☆

Well... I had less luck. And I saw this happening now only to me....

[CptBarney]

I've never seen a single cv die to fire after the reeework, whatsoever.

 

https://wows-numbers.com/player/552657871,BrigadierRosen/

 

Got another kraken in my hosho.

 

Which also included this guy! In said battle. @Sunleader soz. He was in a platoon in a yubari with some other guy.

 

20190826_140730_PJSA104-Hosho_10_NE_big_race.wowsreplay

 

Also i've seen the occasional CV get deleted at the start by long range fire from ships that can actually do it as well (was months ago doe).

 

(please tell me if its the right replay).

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

1 hour ago, MacArthur92 said:

@Europizza @L0V3_and_PE4CE Why you are arguing about this? Fire lasts on cv so short that it doesn’t matter so much, flooding is much more dangerous for cv.

Who's arguing? I'm just keeping him from falling asleep.

[KillStealBoss]

2 minutes ago, Europizza said:

Who's arguing? I'm just keeping him from falling asleep.

Yeah. Sure. 

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

1 minute ago, MacArthur92 said:

Yeah. Sure. 

You're taking this way too seriously ^^

[Sunleader]

1 hour ago, CptBarney said:

I've never seen a single cv die to fire after the reeework, whatsoever.

 

https://wows-numbers.com/player/552657871,BrigadierRosen/

 

Got another kraken in my hosho.

 

Which also included this guy! In said battle. @Sunleader soz. He was in a platoon in a yubari with some other guy.

 

20190826_140730_PJSA104-Hosho_10_NE_big_race.wowsreplay

 

Also i've seen the occasional CV get deleted at the start by long range fire from ships that can actually do it as well (was months ago doe).

 

(please tell me if its the right replay).

 

^^

Aye. I have been Driving Low Tiers with a Friend Today. He just Joined the Game. So he doesnt have any Bigger Ships yet :)

 

Well. In 0.8.5 the Yubari was actually fairly Capable of using its AA.

Given its an AA Cruiser....

 

But I am not sure I shot down any Aircraft with the Yubari after 0.8.6. Despite using the Sector Properly.

Its really not worth Playing anything with AA right.

[KillStealBoss]

46 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

 

^^

Aye. I have been Driving Low Tiers with a Friend Today. He just Joined the Game. So he doesnt have any Bigger Ships yet :)

 

Well. In 0.8.5 the Yubari was actually fairly Capable of using its AA.

Given its an AA Cruiser....

 

But I am not sure I shot down any Aircraft with the Yubari after 0.8.6. Despite using the Sector Properly.

Its really not worth Playing anything with AA right.

Since the rework Yubari AA is underperforming, such a shame. Needs an AA buff ASAP. 

[Sunleader]

4 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

Since the rework Yubari AA is underperforming, such a shame. Needs an AA buff ASAP. 

 

Well. In 0.8.6 it was Pretty Fine.

The Defensive AA Consumable gave it a Fat Boost to really work out against Squadrons Twice per Match.

 

But now that they Castrated AA and also Castrated the Def AA Consumable.

Its become a Toothless Tiger than can be Bombed by the same Squadron Twice without Shooting down a Single Aircraft....

[KillStealBoss]

1 minute ago, Sunleader said:

 

Well. In 0.8.6 it was Pretty Fine.

The Defensive AA Consumable gave it a Fat Boost to really work out against Squadrons Twice per Match.

 

But now that they Castrated AA and also Castrated the Def AA Consumable.

Its become a Toothless Tiger than can be Bombed by the same Squadron Twice without Shooting down a Single Aircraft....

Nah, I was able to shoot down 20 planes in RTS. Not after rework on any update. 

Also, why twice only? You don’t run SI on it? It should be 3. 

[CptBarney]

1 hour ago, Sunleader said:

 

^^

Aye. I have been Driving Low Tiers with a Friend Today. He just Joined the Game. So he doesnt have any Bigger Ships yet :)

 

Well. In 0.8.5 the Yubari was actually fairly Capable of using its AA.

Given its an AA Cruiser....

 

But I am not sure I shot down any Aircraft with the Yubari after 0.8.6. Despite using the Sector Properly.

Its really not worth Playing anything with AA right.

Feel worse now, wasn't expecting smoll friend to join you.

 

i saw dat russian bb give you a hard slap, and kinda cringed (at the sudden amount of damage) im guessing your non gunboat DD's kept...well gunboating which explains why they were spotted most of the time but oh well, thats lower tiers i guess.

[mtm78]

Hey you guys, yes you filthy CV players... do I have your attention now?

 

Ok then, so I just took out a Yubari and had a Hosho trying to strike me through defensive fire and AA sector reinforment. Captain only has AFT BFT, no DA. I did less then 3k plane damage and shot down one plane ( after it dropped ). The hosho had a full torpedo bomber squad, losing that one single plane, full duration of DFAA and I kept him in my AA sector. 

 

I know 25mm IJN AA sucks, but there was a time when Melon-san actually scared carriers. 

 

Would changing AFT to that +100% dmg blob even be worth it for this measly plane damage, losing AFT means DFAA can't really be used to defend allies. Worse even was this ->

 

I will say Hosho was trying to focus the DD but this still makes Melon-chan a very sad girl still. Melon-san doesn't like being sad she should be a happy girl!

 

[Sunleader]

5 hours ago, MacArthur92 said:

Nah, I was able to shoot down 20 planes in RTS. Not after rework on any update. 

Also, why twice only? You don’t run SI on it? It should be 3. 

 

Nope. On 3rd Drop a T4 CV might actually lose ONE Plane against Yubari if its not Alone and if Yubari used the Def AA and Sector Correctly....... 

 

 

4 hours ago, CptBarney said:

Feel worse now, wasn't expecting smoll friend to join you.

 

i saw dat russian bb give you a hard slap, and kinda cringed (at the sudden amount of damage) im guessing your non gunboat DD's kept...well gunboating which explains why they were spotted most of the time but oh well, thats lower tiers i guess.

 

Its T4. So Noobs should be Expected :P

 

But heck. I am Impressed how little I did to your Planes in that Replay.

That First Rocket Attack in the Replay. I not only used the Sector Burst which you cant even see in the Replay because its Damage is so Ridiculously low that it wont even turn a Plane Yellow.

But I also used Def AA. And its basicly doing nothing....

 

You even got Hit by a Heavy AA Cloud and despite Def AA you didnt lose a Plane from it.

Thats quite the Sad Joke really.