CV Rework Discussion

[Alfa_Tau]

2 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

From my observation ships can't spot planes in smoke but outside they can regardless of distance, since i've had planes on top of smoke and didnt get spotted at all (neither did the ship).

 

Not sure if firing from smoke changes that however.

In my experience so far even passing on top of a smoke if DD is shooting it will stay hidden (absurd) and you will be able only to guess his position. But I had been fired with AA several times from DD in smoke , thats why I am asking.

[KillStealBoss]

3 minutes ago, CptBarney said:

Not sure if firing from smoke changes that howeve

Firing from smoke doesn't make you spotted even if the CV is just above you. However based on gun traces CV can strike you if you sit still. 

[KillStealBoss]

Just now, Alfa_Tau said:

In my experience so far even passing on top of a smoke if DD is shooting it will stay hidden (absurd) and you will be able only to guess his position. But I had been fired with AA several times from DD in smoke , thats why I am asking.

Maybe something else spotted your planes. 

[CptBarney]

Just now, Alfa_Tau said:

In my experience so far even passing on top of a smoke if DD is shooting it will stay hidden (absurd) and you will be able only to guess his position. But I had been fired with AA several times from DD in smoke , thats why I am asking.

yeah if your planes are spotted by other ships and the dd's aa is on it will fire, if no ships outside of smoke or in open waters can see your planes the dd's aa will simply treat them as if they never existed.

 

thats from my 300 or so rework games i've played atm.

[Alfa_Tau]

2 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

Unfortunately not the CV can spot the DD in smoke at any distance nor the DD can spot the planes. I personally got surprise CV torps in smoke many times and dodged then only by luck. There's no proximity spot for planes. 

thanks this help me to understand better. 

So I guess when a DD (or a CL) in smoke use AA against my planes its because they are spotted by someone else

 

[KillStealBoss]

13 minutes ago, Alfa_Tau said:

thanks this help me to understand better. 

So I guess when a DD (or a CL) in smoke use AA against my planes its because they are spotted by someone else

 

You get spotted for one sec, all flak comes in when you don't expect it. Especially Grozo makes some ultra big puff from AA guns at once and Kaga planes die instantly. 

[Hundigo]

56 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

LET ME TELL YOU

 

ZUIHO T5 BEST CV IN THE WORLD

CONCEALMENT 7.2KM! GET AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE AND LAUNCH AVE AFTER WAVE.

ONESHOT ALL DD WITH CROSSDROP V SHAPE FROM BEHIND, INESCABEABLE!

DIVEBOMBERS TO FINISH THE LUCKIEST OF SURVIVOR!

ALL ENEMY DDS DEAD AFTER 5 MINUTES!

LURE BOGUE FIGHTER INTO ZUIHO AA TO OBLITERATE IN DOGFIGHT!!!

THEN DEMOLISH ENEMY TEAM ONE SHIP AFTER ANOTHER!

CHECK MY ZUIHO STATS!

CAP ENEMY BASE IN STANDARD BATTLE WITH ZUIHO NO PROBLEM!

TORPEDOBEATS AND SECONDARY BATTERY KILLS ON SNEAKY DD!

8 KILLS WAS THE BEST I COULD DO WITH HER!

 

YOOOOUUUUU DARE TO CALL HER CRAP?!?!?!

2 questions ;

 

1) before CV Rework 08.00 ? 

2) before CV Rework 08.05 ? 

 

If the second question is anwered 'positive' then indeed "nerf" is legal even at 08.06 and 08.07 also   Even to patch 35.79 would be faire seen your results 

 

 

How dare you to destroy 8 other players in the game …. You never thought that these persons just play a game and are not in to meet a "professional" CV player …… Ttttttttt , no wonder your 'karma' is decreasing ' everytime you play a game …..   ( even you played a Gearing and was wondering if the teammates expected miracles from you ;))    

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 10 Minuten, Hundigo sagte:

2 questions ;

 

1) before CV Rework 08.00 ? 

2) before CV Rework 08.05 ? 

 

If the second question is anwered 'positive' then indeed "nerf" is legal even at 08.06 and 08.07 also   Even to patch 35.79 would be faire seen your results 

 

 

How dare you to destroy 8 other players in the game …. You never thought that these persons just play a game and are not in to meet a "professional" CV player …… Ttttttttt , no wonder your 'karma' is decreasing ' everytime you play a game …..   ( even you played a Gearing and was wondering if the teammates expected miracles from you ;))    

Zuiho is obviously pre 08.00 since it's a t5 CV and has nothing to do with reworked CVs LOL

 

btw my karma is increasing

[CptBarney]

 

@El2aZeR @L0V3_and_PE4CE Play from 2:36 till about 2:44ish.

 

bet you two would love cv planes and torps to be that rediculous lol.

[Yosha_AtaIante]

Vor 12 Minuten, CptBarney sagte:

 

@El2aZeR @L0V3_and_PE4CE Play from 2:36 till about 2:44ish.

 

bet you two would love cv planes and torps to be that rediculous lol.

I luv you ♡

[Hundigo]

31 minutes ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Zuiho is obviously pre 08.00 since it's a t5 CV and has nothing to do with reworked CVs LOL

 

btw my karma is increasing

1) Zuiho pre 08.00.   I tell you a little life story. When the movie 'Jurasic  Parc ' came out, my grandparents proclaimed that all these pre history beasts shown in the film didn't exist in their time at all …  ;)  It was the first time they self  heard about it :)

In other words and translated to this game, you talk really pre history with your comparising about your results with the Zuiho….   Ages went by already …..   

 

2)  I self doubt that you would have gained Karma when you was in battle with your Gearing. You told the team that no matter what they where thinking to achieve , it wouldn't work at all. 

I played half of my totall battle's with DD, I know verry well when your Karma increase or decrease when you play a DD and confront your teammates with their gameplay. I self was also in that battle, as a Tier 8 DD and totally at the other side of the map. Spawn result by MM ;)  And to be clear, I never have given you a 'negative' karma because you was totally right in that game 

[Sunleader]

2 hours ago, Alfa_Tau said:

@MacArthur92

I have a question for you :

a DD in smoke is Always capable of spotting planes passing around? or there is a minimum distance for planes like for ships (assured aquisition) ? 

thanks

 

No.

Planes follow same rules as Ships.

They dont get Spotted if DD is in Smoke :)

 

2 hours ago, MacArthur92 said:

Unfortunately not the CV can spot the DD in smoke at any distance nor the DD can spot the planes. I personally got surprise CV torps in smoke many times and dodged then only by luck. There's no proximity spot for planes. 

 

I love doing this *gg*

I am so often Sinking DDs in Smoke using Torps.

Only downside is.

To make an effective drop the DD needs to have been spotted before.

So you know his facing. From Minimap or because you saw him.

Otherwise you rarely hit anything.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, L0V3_and_PE4CE said:

Zuiho is obviously pre 08.00 since it's a t5 CV and has nothing to do with reworked CVs LOL

 

btw my karma is increasing

 

Mine keeps Sinking.

Just Today.

Had 150k Damage and 3 Kills with the British T6 CV.

Pretty much Carried that Game.

High Calibre and Confederate.

 

Come out of the Game and of course -2 Karma from Reports.....

 

 

[KillStealBoss]

7 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

 Come out of the Game and of course -2 Karma from Reports.

My record -7. Lol though I have 946 now. If not the CV rework I would have now 1000+ karma 

[Operation_Crossroads_1]

7 minutes ago, Sunleader said:

Planes follow same rules as Ships.

They dont get Spotted if DD is in Smoke :)

 

However the detection range for planes is huge so the odds are that someone else will spot them.

[Mad_Dog_Dante]

2 hours ago, MacArthur92 said:

You get spotted for one sec, all flak comes in when you don't expect it. Especially Grozo makes some ultra big puff from AA guns at once and Kaga planes die instantly. 

 

 

DUUUUNTUH TUUUUTSUH MUUUUUH GRUZUVUUUUUUH!!

[Bartleby74]

I still think that I want CVs deleted from game and get my money back.

 

[CaptainOkita]

8 hours ago, Bartleby74 said:

I still think that I want CVs deleted from game and get my money back.

 

Yeah they cant fix how tilted and flawed this rework is. Not when they refuse to admit anything's wrong even.

[El2aZeR]

Spoiler

 

 

 

Balans. 

[KillStealBoss]

5 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

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Balans. 

Once I got 6 citadel devastating strike 

[ghostbuster_]

2 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

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Balans. 

WG: "we dont want CVs to have high alpha damage"  apparently this is not high enough 

[Lebedjev]

Bah they have a chance to remove dumb cv mechanic, but no let's had more.

[artic_99]

Vor 2 Stunden, MacArthur92 sagte:

Once I got 6 citadel devastating strike 

I think I'll need this lol

[KillStealBoss]

52 minutes ago, ghostbuster_ said:

WG: "we dont want CVs to have high alpha damage"  apparently this is not high enough 

Tbh on RTS I had some low damage Moskva games, killed by Midway - almost full hp 60k hit. 

[CaptainOkita]

51 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

Tbh on RTS I had some low damage Moskva games, killed by Midway - almost full hp 60k hit. 

Considering she can tank bb's at point blank it was a reasonable trade off.

[KillStealBoss]

29 minutes ago, CaptainOkita said:

Considering she can tank bb's at point blank it was a reasonable trade off.

Yeah. Though in the past CV had more devastating potential. Now it needs more time, on RTS no matter how good you were, if there was no AA monster ship - it was a loss. CV was WR and dmg farmers.