CV Rework Discussion

[Redcap375]

1 minute ago, MacArthur92 said:

He meant pre 0.8.4 but after 0.8.0

 

Then I apologise as i didn't get the whole thread when he stated commenting in it.  I thought he ment pre rework.

 

@Sunleader Soz lad.  My bad.

 

 

[KillStealBoss]

2 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

 

What, when he comes out with a comment like that one?

 

Practically god mode? Unless he was being sarcastic.. If he was then I apologise, but I didn't get the memo.

 

You say things like that when you have something to back it up with...He didn't. 

 

 

Well because he's an average player and was making good results on CVs. Because they were too easy = broken 

[KillStealBoss]

1 minute ago, Redcap375 said:

 

Then I apologise as i didn't get the whole thread when he stated commenting in it.  I thought he ment pre rework.

 

@Sunleader Soz lad.  My bad.

 

 

Tbh sometimes he speaks different kind of English (lol) that's why this misunderstanding occures . 

[Sunleader]

1 hour ago, Redcap375 said:

 

I stopped reading it after that drivvle. 

 

What do you know about "Old" CV's? 

 

Those "Old" CV's your on about was one of your worst classes.  So much for spanking everything, you could hit a barn door in your old CV's.

 

And now look at your CV's now? 

 

Your top 5 damage dealing ships your CV's account for 4 of them. 

 

So what did you say about the old CV's owning things?

 

 

Never heard so much Shite in my life. 

 

Do you think people are enjoying what's happening now? In your rework Hark with 127, 570 ave damage?

 

Talk about a hypocrite.  The fact of the matter is since this re-work, you know how strong they are and bolted onto it and your loving it.  It's by far you best ship class and you found something of which to spank other players.

 

Because you was awful in the old CV's....That's how strong they were ay? Don't make me laugh. 

 

Sorry if that sounds harsh but that really needed to be said as I can smell that BS a mile off. 

 

That first comment makes me laugh *god mode* lol. 

 

 

I just saw this was already cleared.

But as the Person in Question I will answer it anyways.

 

1.

Misunderstandling Mate.

This Comment was Aimed at 0.8.0 to 0.8.4

Because People keep claiming that CVs are Unplayable as of 0.8.5

 

2.

I started Playing CV because People here in 0.8.3 said they are not Overpowered and easy to Counter.

So I started Playing CVs to see just how easy People Counter Me.

Easy to See that up to this Say I have not been Countered.

Being an Average and even Below Average Potato who is ever faster Heading to Unicum for CVs thanks to them being so Ridiculously Easy to Rule in.

 

3.

No. I dont think People are Enjoying it at all lol.

In case you didnt know. But just like Elazer. I think the Rework is Broken and should be Rolled back.

I think you need to Read Properly before you get so Heated up :)

 

 

 

56 minutes ago, Operation_Crossroads_1 said:

 

Steady on mate, I'm pretty sure @Sunleader is one of the first to admit that new CV are broken.

 

I think Admitting is an massive Understatement.

Given that I have been Propagating that CVs are Broken for like 2 Months now xD

 

 

51 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

 

What, when he comes out with a comment like that one?

 

Practically god mode? Unless he was being sarcastic.. If he was then I apologise, but I didn't get the memo.

 

You say things like that when you have something to back it up with...He didn't. 

 

 

 

I was not Sarcastic ^^

You simply seem to have Misunderstood something.

 

 

Because Guess what.

Throughout this Topic.

The Reason that I Started Playing CVs Seriously in 0.8.3 was to Back up what I said.

And that I did quite Impressively if I might say so.

 

 

51 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

He meant pre 0.8.4 but after 0.8.0

 

^^ this

 

47 minutes ago, Redcap375 said:

 

Then I apologise as i didn't get the whole thread when he stated commenting in it.  I thought he ment pre rework.

 

@Sunleader Soz lad.  My bad.

 

 

 

No Problem ^^

 

 

45 minutes ago, MacArthur92 said:

Tbh sometimes he speaks different kind of English (lol) that's why this misunderstanding occures . 

 

I am not a Native English Speaker.

 

And for those who care. I learned English in a Game Named Tibia. Where our German Guild was Allied with a Brazilian Guild which lead to me Learning English in Chat with these Guys over time.

Be Happy you only have to Read it. When I started my Apprenticeship as an Technician for Industrial Electronics. I had to Learn some Technical English. Which was gladly not a Problem cause I could easily Speak and Understand English.

But in Germany they Teach British English. So my English Teacher always looked at me with a mix of Amusement and Admiration. Because while I had no Problem Understanding her even if she stayed completely on English for the Lesson. And would easily Understand any Instructions and Manuals in English. When I myself Spoke English she always told me I sound like a Latino Rapper from the USA xD

[B051LjKo]

I love the new Notser video regarding the Clan brawl. Kremlin is dominating, but that is not an issue as you can counter him from distance if you have a couple of Yoshinos with IFHE, that makes it balanced.  Every other ship against him is toast, but hey, put in a few Yoshinos with IFHE, and the balance is there. On the other hand, it is very good that CVs didnt made it to Clan brawl, as they are still not balanced. 

[CaptainOkita]

36 minutes ago, B051LjKo said:

I love the new Notser video regarding the Clan brawl. Kremlin is dominating, but that is not an issue as you can counter him from distance if you have a couple of Yoshinos with IFHE, that makes it balanced.  Every other ship against him is toast, but hey, put in a few Yoshinos with IFHE, and the balance is there. On the other hand, it is very good that CVs didnt made it to Clan brawl, as they are still not balanced. 

Offtopic but you are forgetting ifhe nerfwork thats coming.

[KillStealBoss]

2 hours ago, CaptainOkita said:

Offtopic but you are forgetting ifhe nerfwork thats coming.

But the base pen will be 1/5 instead of 1/6. Yoshino won't even need ifhe . Correct me if I'm wrong. 

[CaptainOkita]

1 hour ago, MacArthur92 said:

But the base pen will be 1/5 instead of 1/6. Yoshino won't even need ifhe . Correct me if I'm wrong. 

I honedtly dont know if they'll do what they wrote or its a machine translation or they'll "tweak" it. This goes back on topic as WG is doing that for years : not saying a thing then saying vaguely that changes are coming and its done only its not done.

[El2aZeR]

Have to revise my opinion on the Audacious a bit. She gets promoted from garbage to rather MM dependent.

Why you ask? Well, I found out that with a bit of RNG on your side her bombs do disgusting things to DDs. Still leaves her without good anti-cruiser options tho.

[mcboernester]

3 hours ago, MacArthur92 said:

But the base pen will be 1/5 instead of 1/6. Yoshino won't even need ifhe . Correct me if I'm wrong. 

Thats not true. The 1/5 pen does only count for T8+ with the 152/155mm guns. The rest will keep 1/6 (or 1/4 for germans). 

[Yedwy]

Huh IFHE on Yoshi... I think I ll rather take IFHE Hindi for that purpose but ok

[mcboernester]

2 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Huh IFHE on Yoshi... I think I ll rather take IFHE Hindi for that purpose but ok

Didn't play but from what i've heard people use the yoshino instead of hindenburg ( for anybody who should be wondering -> 60mm pen for Kremlin, stalins new weapon of choice) 

[Yedwy]

IDK, maybe worth a try, I do have loads of ijn captains including 3 or 4 19pt but I m on seaside ATM so I am skipping this one alltogether...

[KillStealBoss]

2 hours ago, mcboernester said:

Thats not true. The 1/5 pen does only count for T8+ with the 152/155mm guns. The rest will keep 1/6 (or 1/4 for germans). 

Ok. And cruisers with 127mm and 130mm will have 1/5 pen? 

[NoirLotus]

1 hour ago, MacArthur92 said:

Ok. And cruisers with 127mm and 130mm will have 1/5 pen? 

That's the question that we don't know the answer, as the IFHE rework seems to make Colbert and Smolensk unable to damage BB, which seems strange as WG seems to release them soon ...

[KillStealBoss]

50 minutes ago, NoirLotus said:

That's the question that we don't know the answer, as the IFHE rework seems to make Colbert and Smolensk unable to damage BB, which seems strange as WG seems to release them soon ...

Hmm. If it won't be 1/5 pen they will become useless. 

[Yedwy]

1 hour ago, NoirLotus said:

That's the question that we don't know the answer, as the IFHE rework seems to make Colbert and Smolensk unable to damage BB, which seems strange as WG seems to release them soon ...

Well maybe they decided to acctually make classes do specific roles ie dd<cl<ca<bb<dd circle instead of every ship beeing jack of all trades

[Redcap375]

14 hours ago, B051LjKo said:

I love the new Notser video regarding the Clan brawl. Kremlin is dominating, but that is not an issue as you can counter him from distance if you have a couple of Yoshinos with IFHE, that makes it balanced.  Every other ship against him is toast, but hey, put in a few Yoshinos with IFHE, and the balance is there. On the other hand, it is very good that CVs didnt made it to Clan brawl, as they are still not balanced. 

 

Counter him with a coal/Steel ship …..  Yet another example of those that do and those that don't. 

 

Not withstanding the IFHE nerf and what that will bring to this all, this should not be the case.

 

So to play clans you will need things like the Grad and Yoshi? What about the clans that don't have them? 

 

Unless WG are going to rent them ay. Thought not.

 

CB should be equal.  Not those that do and those that don't.  This IFHE nerf is setting it up nicly to force people to get these coal/steel ships or get left behind.  Shouldn't happen and the Grad was the first glimpse of it. 

 

 

[Redcap375]

2 hours ago, Yedwy said:

Well maybe they decided to acctually make classes do specific roles ie dd<cl<ca<bb<dd circle instead of every ship beeing jack of all trades

 

That should have been the case LONG AGO. 100mm HE damaging BB, who's idea what that in the first place 

 

Trouble is now (unlike back then), all these supercrusiers are being brought out for premium/steel/coal.  I personally think WG want people to grind these to stay competitive  Why have the Yoshi when you can get the free Henri? So low and behold the answer is supercrusiers. 

 

So the idea in principle is good, great in fact, but it looks dodgy as their behind paywalls and Coal/Steel.

 

There is always a £££££ reason for whatever WG do.

[Yedwy]

I drove hindi in ranked a bit and it did rather well vs kremls, not the optimal long range spammer but its managable, slap on range mod and pop spotter plane for emergencies on the distant side of the map and you are golden

[Redcap375]

7 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

I drove hindi in ranked a bit and it did rather well vs kremls, not the optimal long range spammer but its managable, slap on range mod and pop spotter plane for emergencies on the distant side of the map and you are golden

 

If they keep IFHE and 1/4 rule.  I hope so as it will bring the Hindy back from the ashes. Remember, too many people have the Henri now, it was only a matter of time before they want us to grind something else.

 

2 years ago the Hindy went through the same treatment.

 

 

[Yedwy]

I dont think they will change 1/4 for the german line, esp since there is the eugen issue emerging in that case (not changing premium ship vital stats unless really neccesary) as well as that sovietized nurnberg clone, not that its unheard of, but i doubt they will make their job harder on themselves, adittionally this way germans t8-10 get a new purpose and its a win/win

[Redcap375]

Just now, Yedwy said:

I dont think they will change 1/4 for the german line, esp since there is the eugen issue emerging in that case (not changing premium ship vital stats unless really neccesary) as well as that sovietized nurnberg clone, not that its unheard if but i doubt tgey will make their job harder on thrmselves, adittionally this way germans t8-10 get a new purpose and its a win/win

 

I hope not mate, but I wouldn't put anything past them. 

 

However, it's more £££ if they don't so they will keep the 1/4 rule. 

[CptBarney]

Just now, Redcap375 said:

 

I hope not mate, but I wouldn't put anything past them. 

 

However, it's more £££ if they don't so they will keep the 1/4 rule. 

in b4 'skeret dokumentz' comrade.

[Yedwy]

Just now, CptBarney said:

in b4 'skeret dokumentz' comrade.

Gulag!