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How can one be top BaseXP while doing nothing?

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Yesterday I had a game with a friend, in which:

- I did NOT do lot of damage (I did less than my friend for example)
- I did NOT do more kills than others did
- I had NOT a huge potential damage taken
- NO cap ribbons at all I believe
- I had no medals nothing special

And yet I ended up top Base XP. This was interesting as it countered everything I knew about Base XP!
 could not explain why and me and my friend went thinking what it could be...
But we couldnt figure it out! He had more damage dealt than me, more caps, more everything!
Still he ended a few spots lower in that particular game!


How can a player with less damage, less kills, less caps and less potential damage taken, end up top BaseXP earner???

WG is not telling us everything! If you have any information on this please share with us, thanks cheers.

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2 minutes ago, ZAMRAM said:

Yesterday I had a game with a friend, in which:

- I did NOT do lot of damage (I did less than my friend for example)
- I did NOT do more kills than others did
- I had NOT a huge potential damage taken
- NO cap ribbons at all I believe
- I had no medals nothing special

And yet I ended up top Base XP. This was interesting as it countered everything I knew about Base XP!
 could not explain why and me and my friend went thinking what it could be...
But we couldnt figure it out! He had more damage dealt than me, more caps, more everything!
Still he ended a few spots lower in that particular game!


How can a player with less damage, less kills, less caps and less potential damage taken, end up top BaseXP earner???

WG is not telling us everything! If you have any information on this please share with us, thanks cheers.

apsolute dmg is irelevant - %DMG is what counts.....20K dmg on dd with 21 k will give you more exp than 90k on BBs who has 105 k.

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Each ship has it's own modifier. So you could do exactly the same as someone else and get more/less because of the ship.

We don't know exactly what the modifiers are, but we do know they were changed (patch notes for one patch listed increases/decreases to ships XP).

 

One of the seasons of ranked that was tier 7 the Sims was very popular because it has such a high modifier - you could get a cap and do a little damage and still get 2k base xp (And therefore save a star on a loss)

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Yeah, just what @veslingr said. Also were you perhaps bottom tier? One gets extra points for any damage done to higher tier ships...:Smile_Default:

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2 minutes ago, veslingr said:

apsolute dmg is irelevant - %DMG is what counts.....20K dmg on dd with 21 k will give you more exp than 90k on BBs who has 105 k.

 

Also some ships have a built in xp muliplyer like sims that was used a lot in ranked because it was so easy to keep a star with it.

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Just now, piet11111 said:

 

Also some ships have a built in xp muliplyer like sims that was used a lot in ranked because it was so easy to keep a star with it.

yes...if OP would say what ship it was it would help

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3 minutes ago, veslingr said:

apsolute dmg is irelevant - %DMG is what counts.....20K dmg on dd with 21 k will give you more exp than 90k on BBs who has 105 k.

This.

 

There is also spotting damage to take into account and the amount of potential damage thrown at you, both of which can add to your XP total.

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He was using a Henry and camping at the back ;) while I was in the Z52. Did the capping, sunk ships, spotted and did more damage than him. He finished top, I was 3rd I think. Big difference in XP though. 

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Did the team lose? I've had some games where I haven't done much, yet ended high up on xp because the team was probably that bad.

Not sure how much spotting damage and potential damage is in proportion to xp gained, but having high potential damage with low damage output doesn't propel a performance up the xp table.  Actual damage might be more important than potential damage. Similarly, high spotting damage with low damage output doesn't appear to be that significant either. %ship damage seems to be the biggest factor, and capping does very well too (maybe less for BB's). The fatal blow doesn't seems so significant either (and shouldn't be too significant since kills are usually a team effort).

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32 minutes ago, ZAMRAM said:

Yesterday I had a game with a friend, in which:

- I did NOT do lot of damage (I did less than my friend for example)
- I did NOT do more kills than others did
- I had NOT a huge potential damage taken
- NO cap ribbons at all I believe
- I had no medals nothing special

And yet I ended up top Base XP. This was interesting as it countered everything I knew about Base XP!
 could not explain why and me and my friend went thinking what it could be...
But we couldnt figure it out! He had more damage dealt than me, more caps, more everything!
Still he ended a few spots lower in that particular game!


How can a player with less damage, less kills, less caps and less potential damage taken, end up top BaseXP earner???

WG is not telling us everything! If you have any information on this please share with us, thanks cheers.

By not doing nothing....

Screenshots of the result screens would make explaining very easy.

Without them, we can only speculate...

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We won. It was a great match (for a change ;) ) really close. I smoked a Seattle which enabled him to wreck a Yammy that was pushing. Good teamwork throughout and could have gone either way at the end. 

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Indeed without screenshots it's very hard to draw conclusions. Perhaps OP managed to score some hits on DD's who nearly finished capping. Hitting DD's and defending caps are AFAIK very good for base XP income.

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45 minutes ago, Moosealoob said:

He was using a Henry and camping at the back ;) while I was in the Z52. Did the capping, sunk ships, spotted and did more damage than him. He finished top, I was 3rd I think. Big difference in XP though. 

well no matter the class....if he did more %DMG to ships than you he will get more EXP:

 

cap EXP got Nerf to hell so you capping means crap, also spotting dmg

 

couple days ago i had 3 solo caps, 200.000 sporting dmg and was last on EXP earning becasue i did like 20k dmg to BBs..we won that is what only matters to me :)

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42 minutes ago, Moosealoob said:

We won. It was a great match (for a change ;) ) really close. I smoked a Seattle which enabled him to wreck a Yammy that was pushing. Good teamwork throughout and could have gone either way at the end. 

see....you did more %DMG (cruiser vs BBs)...thats why you are infront

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24 minutes ago, Ferry_25 said:

 defending caps are AFAIK very good for base XP income.

 

Last ranked game in Gearing. All 4 caps by me (160/160), 11 cap defending (1/4 of all), good DMG as DD, 2 kills. From the game start almost sole ship which played for objectives. Score ? Of course  - sniping Zao was the first, so making DMG > then playing for objectives in terms of XP and the best ships for collect XP are sniping fire starters.

 

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23 minutes ago, Odo_Toothless said:

 

Last ranked game in Gearing. All 4 caps by me (160/160), 11 cap defending (1/4 of all), good DMG as DD, 2 kills. From the game start almost sole ship which played for objectives. Score ? Of course  - sniping Zao was the first, so making DMG > then playing for objectives in terms of XP and the best ships for collect XP are sniping fire starters.

 

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as Zao does not have high caliber, or confederate or eaven 60k dmg from fire it is clear that he did not do much dmg and you did your 60 k to BBs mostly.....so if he did 13 k to DD he will beat you on EXP......as stated before cap EXP is nerfed to ground and means crap in terms of EXP, cap defennding is the same as cap points.

 

also i HAVE FEELING (so not a proof) that heal-able DMG gives less exp...so if you have alot of flood dmg....

 

p.s. yesterday i had 8 ranked games.....only 2 wins....but other 6 i was first....DM....killling DDs and cruisers mostly....so no, sniping on BBs is not only way to bi on top.....40 k on cruiser will give you more EXP than 100 k on BBs....

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2 hours ago, ZAMRAM said:

Yesterday I had a game with a friend, in which:

- I did NOT do lot of damage (I did less than my friend for example)
- I did NOT do more kills than others did
- I had NOT a huge potential damage taken
- NO cap ribbons at all I believe
- I had no medals nothing special

And yet I ended up top Base XP. This was interesting as it countered everything I knew about Base XP!
 could not explain why and me and my friend went thinking what it could be...
But we couldnt figure it out! He had more damage dealt than me, more caps, more everything!
Still he ended a few spots lower in that particular game!


How can a player with less damage, less kills, less caps and less potential damage taken, end up top BaseXP earner???

WG is not telling us everything! If you have any information on this please share with us, thanks cheers.

 

Did you play in Yamato or or Montana or Dm or something from first 2 tree that was release in game ??

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3 hours ago, Moosealoob said:

He was using a Henry and camping at the back ;) while I was in the Z52. Did the capping, sunk ships, spotted and did more damage than him. He finished top, I was 3rd I think. Big difference in XP though. 

 

2 hours ago, Sargento_YO said:

Perhaps you attacked and sunk a ship which it's one or two tiers higher than you? That gives alot of xp.

 

I would love to see your list of ships that are one or two tiers higher than the Henri IV.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, xxNihilanxx said:

 

 

 

I would love to see your list of ships that are one or two tiers higher than the Henri IV.

 

 

Stalingrad? that should count, right? at least according to popular opinion... :Smile_sceptic:

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