My experience with the preorder ships (Sims, Gremyashchiy, Yubari)

[xCaptainObviousx]

 

Another option would be to give it a fifth gun... it does have 5 guns on the model, the one on the bow is just counted purely as an AA gun even though it clearly was a dual purpose gun and mounted as such.

 

The bow 120 mm is counted as a secondary gun and will fire at enemy ships that come within 2 km of you, not that it helps a lot but it's not all decoration.

 

EDIT: And yes, I do think the Yubari is underpreforming but I have the same stance here as I had in WoT: I try to avoid the "increase RoF and call it a day" solution to balance issues

[matsc]

I haven't played them enough to give a detailed review but more impressions of them.

 

Yubari

I'm a bit mixed about this one. Looking at the armament it has torpedoes and good AA but they are a bit situational.

They do give it more options though. The main weapons are a bit lacking with only 2x2 turrets.

Mobility is good, reasonably fast and agile. Armor isn't anything to brag about.

Considering the lacking main weapons and armor it should be a bad cruiser but somehow it works and feels ok when playing.

3 on a 5 scale for premiums.

 

 

Gremyashchiy

This one should be good but I haven't got it to work for me yet.

Armament is somewhere between US and IJN. Good main armament but with really slow turning rate.

Torpedoes have 8km range and that is below the spotting range of the DD so they are much better than US ones.

Not quite as good as the IJN ones though.

Since I havn't gotten it to work for me even though it is a good ship I'll skip grading it.

 

Sims

This is probably the one you will play most if you like to play DDs.

Armament is the epitome of US DD playstile. Great guns for a DD and turns really fast.

The torpedoes has really short range so they will probably only be used in ambush or as a defence.

Mobility is great since it both fast and agile, loses a bit speed when turning though.

Since I like torpedoes I can't give it the top score.

4.5 of 5 on the premium scale.

 

Edit: spelling.

[CloakingDonkey]

"WoT does something xxxxxxx awful, so let's do it here, too."  God, no.

 

The paper they bring in for the Russians will be bad enough, let's try and keep out ships made up by the devs.

 

hey I'm just looking for options to make the ship not suck so bad... I really don't care if it stays this way ... I'll still be right and sleep sound in that knowledge

 

I do not think that someone that has only played only one tier VII ship is able to produce a relevant review of that only one tier VII ship.

 

Better make that review after playing Mahan, Benson, Hatsuharu, and Kagero.

 

why? so i can start sharing my feelings on how much i liked playing it and what zephyr rank on the magenta scale my enjoyment level peaked at?

 

I played a few games, it functioned well and much like the tier 2-5 US destroyers I had already played and I then compared the stats to those of the Mahan. It's not like I made up some sort of voodoo. The point was not to bring self proclaimed professionals an in depth feelings report on the Sims, it was to tell newbies and potential buyers the raw stats of the ship which they don't have easy access to before buying it. But sure, ride my back... what about all the people who played like 1 game in the Yubari and then made videos about how awesome and #bestattierIV it supposedly is without providing any numbers or data to back up those claims? 

 

If you don't like my focus on numbers and facts, don't watch my videos... there's enough youtubers and streamers who love to share their feelings and opinions that I don't have to add my own.

 

The bow 120 mm is counted as a secondary gun and will fire at enemy ships that come within 2 km of you, not that it helps a lot but it's not all decoration.

 

EDIT: And yes, I do think the Yubari is underpreforming but I have the same stance here as I had in WoT: I try to avoid the "increase RoF and call it a day" solution to balance issues

 

yeah i knew they were secondary but that's pretty irrelevant ^^ let's face it if you are at 2km from something in the Yubari, you are about to point blank torp it or you're about to die

 

 

[Nechrom]

Also i get that they don't want mixed calibre armament but I don't see why they couldn't just turn that front mount 120mm into a 140mm... I mean they do unhistorical crap like that in WoT all the time for balance... why not here?

 

They could give us the option of switching to the 1940 refit hull, replacing the 120mm and the rear AA battery with two 140mm single turrets. Just in case we want more gun firepower at the cost of less AA.

[Spellfire40]

If you want to "fix" the Yubari there are 2 ways: Either increase the arc torpedos can be fired or make its turets  faster turning. The mix of resonable good torpedos ,agility and ok but not many guns would be  quite ok enogh. As it is its a very good anti air escord vessle but when compared to the otherpremium of the preorder packs the one least beginer fiendly. (If you find throwing  someone into american DD playstyle at T7 without learning it in low tir beginer friendly ,-)) )

 

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Spellfire40

 

 

 

[DestoryerO_o]

In the end, it's not all about stats. Either the Ship in question fits player's play style, or not.

 

In my case i have more fun in Yuubari, than in Sims (tho the later is nice too - especially when i encounter lots of enemy IJN DDs sailing solo)

 

Over my years of gaming i more often than not played classes / builds / vessels that are far away from recommended by all the min-maxers,

but they did fit my playstyle - which is far more important for my efficiency.

[Zenith]

I would gladly trade the forward deck mounted 120mm AA gun for a single 140mm turret. That would go a long way to making the Yubari a little more user friendly, that and perhaps a slight buff to turret rotation and/or RoF. It's not a bad ship, but it's definitely far more situational than the other two. 

[CloakingDonkey]

If you want to "fix" the Yubari there are 2 ways: Either increase the arc torpedos can be fired or make its turets  faster turning. The mix of resonable good torpedos ,agility and ok but not many guns would be  quite ok enogh. As it is its a very good anti air escord vessle but when compared to the otherpremium of the preorder packs the one least beginer fiendly. (If you find throwing  someone into american DD playstyle at T7 without learning it in low tir beginer friendly ,-)) )

 

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Spellfire40

 

 

 

 

well but after buying the sims you can literally play 3-5 games to get the Sampson which already plays in a similar fashion to the Sims. Jumping in a tier 7 ship right away is always going to be tough no matter how good or what class it is.

 

In the end, it's not all about stats. Either the Ship in question fits player's play style, or not.

 

In my case i have more fun in Yuubari, than in Sims (tho the later is nice too - especially when i encounter lots of enemy IJN DDs sailing solo)

 

Over my years of gaming i more often than not played classes / builds / vessels that are far away from recommended by all the min-maxers,

but they did fit my playstyle - which is far more important for my efficiency.

 

woah, woah... I'm not a min maxer

 

Again, this ship isn't free. It costs 20 bloody €...  and it's going to be bought by people who haven't played the game before. How do you know that they are going to "have fun" in a ship that is underpowered statwise? Seriously... would you recommend the TOG II to brand new players of WoT, just because the community at large has declared it "the party funtime happy tank"? You can't possibly know wether or not they will agree with that statement...

 

fun isn't quantifiable. There are people who find stamp collecting to be a veritable hoot. Others find running around the forest with rubber swords, LARPing amazingly fun... fun is incredibly subjective and as such a TERRIBLE grounds to recommend a purchase on. You don't know if some new guy is going to enjoy the Yubari, just like I don't know that they won't. All we can say with absolute certainty is what stats it has and how those compare to its peers. That doesn't suddenly make it unfun for the people who enjoy it or at least it shouldn't and I have a very hard time understanding why the facts are getting so many people's knickers in a twist. Also, good stats don't mean you'll enjoy it... I mean the Kuma has pretty good stats and yet I don't really enjoy it all that much. Doesn't mean it's bad, doesn't mean I will rail it in my review. It only means after I finish playing it for the review, I'm selling it. ;)

[xCaptainObviousx]

I shot down 25 torpedo bombers alone in one game with my Yuubari, it was great fun dodging between the torpedo volleys and watching planes blow up all around me.... and no, the Yuubari still isn't a great ship.

 

What I'm trying to say is: "I want MORE of that"

[Rax_ion]

Sims i think hae to slow relode time, compear to other DDs in game, other then that i its ok ship, but in DDs i pref to use torpedos,i going US cruisers, so i can use guns there, pref the IJN DDs from now on, as i see the DDs going to be main damage is from torpedos it seems. IJN atm is pref..

[Zenith]

I shot down 25 torpedo bombers alone in one game with my Yuubari, it was great fun dodging between the torpedo volleys and watching planes blow up all around me.... and no, the Yuubari still isn't a great ship.

 

What I'm trying to say is: "I want MORE of that"

 

Yeah, when you can bring those AA guns into action it's a real blast to play, but when planes aren't around or aren't anywhere near you... well, it needs something else to make it shine. I really wish I could exchange the secondary 120mm for a primary 140mm.