[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,598 battles Report post #1 Posted August 21, 2018 Hi all, From Reddit - Official WG Commander's Skills calculator: Thus, for us at EU, this is the link: https://worldofwarships.eu/en/content/commanders-skills/ Leo "Apollo11" 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordMeru Players 394 posts 12,229 battles Report post #2 Posted August 21, 2018 The recommended skills highlighted are useless. There's no way to differentiate from heavy and light cruisers, RN cruisers, torpedo boat or gun boat dds, secondary viable bbs and at the top it doens't suggest concealment expert for the battleships 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #3 Posted August 21, 2018 I guess no class needs BFT. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #4 Posted August 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Riselotte said: I guess no class needs BFT. yeah i noticed that too, with no small degree of amusement... and at the same time they "suggest" skills that actively hurt your performance like... oh I dont know... half the CV specific ones... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #5 Posted August 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said: yeah i noticed that too, with no small degree of amusement... and at the same time they "suggest" skills that actively hurt your performance like... oh I dont know... half the CV specific ones... Are you implying that Emergency Takeoff and Evasive Manoeuvre are not excellent CV skills or that Vigilance isn't the best DD skill? I don't know why WG didn't just highlight the essential skills only. I mean, for most ships there are 10 points worth of captain skills that are downright superior to everything else with a couple of alternate routes. Adding a blue background for the most advantageous skills while keeping the dotted lines for the more situational skills would improve the skill calculator significantly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-CP] NothingButTheRain Players 6,338 posts 14,259 battles Report post #6 Posted August 21, 2018 49 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said: Are you implying that Emergency Takeoff and Evasive Manoeuvre are not excellent CV skills or that Vigilance isn't the best DD skill? I don't know why WG didn't just highlight the essential skills only. I mean, for most ships there are 10 points worth of captain skills that are downright superior to everything else with a couple of alternate routes. Adding a blue background for the most advantageous skills while keeping the dotted lines for the more situational skills would improve the skill calculator significantly. One can also check skillsets on the wows wiki. It's what I typically do. I basically only use the commander skill program if I want to pre-calculate my future captain skillsets that I intend to max out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #7 Posted August 21, 2018 So.. why isn't PM viable on Battleships? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #8 Posted August 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, loppantorkel said: So.. why isn't PM viable on Battleships? Because Expert Loader is better. How else are you going to shoot the most effective ammo type versus DDs without waiting a full reload? 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FMW] OddyB Players 118 posts Report post #9 Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Kartoffelmos said: I don't know why WG didn't just highlight the essential skills only. I mean, for most ships there are 10 points worth of captain skills that are downright superior to everything else with a couple of alternate routes. Adding a blue background for the most advantageous skills while keeping the dotted lines for the more situational skills would improve the skill calculator significantly. Because when you choose the wrong ones it costs Doubloons or an insane amount of ECXP, the latter most don't have Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] Affeks [JUNK] Beta Tester 1,934 posts 8,416 battles Report post #10 Posted August 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Riselotte said: I guess no class needs BFT. Especially not DDs right? Edit: oh but they do need IFHE right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #11 Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Affeks said: Especially not DDs right? Edit: oh but they do need IFHE right? Some do. I mean, most DDs won't be bothering with Manual AA either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] Affeks [JUNK] Beta Tester 1,934 posts 8,416 battles Report post #12 Posted August 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, Riselotte said: Some do. I mean, most DDs won't be bothering with Manual AA either. Yep, only joke builds or dedicated CV div builds with ships like Sims, Kidd or Grozo really take it. Even then I usually play them without. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #13 Posted August 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Affeks said: Yep, only joke builds or dedicated CV div builds with ships like Sims, Kidd or Grozo really take it. Even then I usually play them without. Yesterday, our T6 div with our resident clan CV player in their Ryuujou ran into AA-build Hatsuharus. 7+ km AA range, because DP main battery. It was a bit of a wtf moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #14 Posted August 21, 2018 Ship Comrade just worked for me. Perhaps its demise is incorrectly reported? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jidash Players 15 posts 8,808 battles Report post #15 Posted August 22, 2018 what?! I've been playing with wrong captain builds all the time! let me put manual AA on all DD captains and who needs concealment on battleships - they can borderhump after all. Seriously what is the point of this? All it helps you with is 1st grade math. The recommended skills are useless if not referring to specific ship. Or make it so that you can see how the stats change on a ship if you take this and that and not just "this gives you xx% bonus". If I just started playing, this would only confuse me more and make me make wrong choices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] 159Hunter Players 4,528 posts Report post #16 Posted August 22, 2018 Great and all, but where can I find the thing on their website (I mean, I looked for it and can't seem to find the correct way to click to it from their main page) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #17 Posted August 22, 2018 what?? they arent recommending SE for my G.Kurfurst??? how do you expect my ship to survive with all those CV, DD and CA around... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I-J-N] Karasu_Browarszky [I-J-N] Players 13,025 posts Report post #18 Posted August 22, 2018 Official WG's Frustration and Doubloon Sales Booster Calculator you mean... I'm starting to miss ShipComrade.com already... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RJCTS] Boris_MNE Players 1,568 posts 10,303 battles Report post #19 Posted August 22, 2018 Yeh propose emergency takeoff to carriers. No comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #20 Posted August 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, Boris_MNE said: Yeh propose emergency takeoff to carriers. No comment. "Skill gap between good and bad CV players is a problem." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #21 Posted August 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, Browarszky said: Official WG's Frustration and Doubloon Sales Booster Calculator you mean... I'm starting to miss ShipComrade.com already... It's back. Apparently a paetron made a bigger donation so the site is back up 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #22 Posted August 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: "Skill gap between good and bad CV players is a problem." Lets see what happens if and when the CV rework lands. Everyone is going to have to learn from the same starting point, Depending on what WG actually give us, the tactics used by good CV players atm may no longer be valid. Interesting times ahead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #23 Posted August 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fat_Maniac said: Lets see what happens if and when the CV rework lands. Everyone is going to have to learn from the same starting point, Depending on what WG actually give us, the tactics used by good CV players atm may no longer be valid. Interesting times ahead Nah. Skill gaps will always exist. Unless they make CVs completely braindead (*cough* GZ *cough*) the only thing that will happen is people shifting blame for default losses from CVs to DDs or cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EMPOR] _DemonGuard_ Players 982 posts Report post #24 Posted August 22, 2018 Thanks, but i can still count to 19 without the need of a calculator. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,337 posts 4,238 battles Report post #25 Posted August 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, _DemonGuard_ said: Thanks, but i can still count to 19 without the need of a calculator. Ah a man that can clearly realizes he has toes as well as fingers. I salute you Sir! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
