[SPURD] woppy101 Beta Tester 613 posts 10,606 battles Report post #1 Posted August 18, 2018 Does anyone feel like the Zao is in need of a buff with the general power creep that’s happening? Maybe a small buff to reload or something like that. 2 9 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A77] WashedandDeceased Players 891 posts 20,781 battles Report post #2 Posted August 18, 2018 Nope Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #3 Posted August 18, 2018 She recently got 12 km japanese torpedoes efectively making her one of strongest and most versatile ship in the game. What else would you need? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBF-] Lieut_Gruber Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 828 posts 17,211 battles Report post #4 Posted August 18, 2018 ....no...... Btw maybe ask for a Conq buff also? Seeing you have 55k average, there must be something wrong with that ship also. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #5 Posted August 18, 2018 i think it needs a buff. i would prefer 20km torps on it.. those 12km are just too ineffective on a cruiser. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapVogele Beta Tester 290 posts 3,590 battles Report post #6 Posted August 18, 2018 With laser accuracy, great ballistics, great range, great firechance on HE, awesome penetration AP, great manouverability, trolliah armor, epic concealment and 12 km torps? No, zao does definatly not need a buff, with the legendary module its borderline OP... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #7 Posted August 18, 2018 No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TIPC] Bmsrt Players 310 posts 16,688 battles Report post #8 Posted August 18, 2018 No,they already play Zaokaze,the T10 TeamKill cruiser whit those 12Km torps recently they got as buff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #9 Posted August 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, robihr said: i think it needs a buff. i would prefer 20km torps on it.. those 12km are just too ineffective on a cruiser. If these are 20 km Shima torps, the 12 km torp option is better. 20 km Asashio torps lack the anti-cruiser capability and thus aren't any good too, when you consider things like CB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MDIV] Blechhaube [MDIV] Beta Tester 220 posts 14,133 battles Report post #10 Posted August 18, 2018 27 minutes ago, woppy101 said: Does anyone feel like the Zao is in need of a buff with the general power creep that’s happening? Maybe a small buff to reload or something like that. The Zao was buffed recently with 12 km torps. It is annoying to answere to one liner. I hope your mind offers the capability to describe some reasons for a buff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SPURD] woppy101 Beta Tester 613 posts 10,606 battles Report post #11 Posted August 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, Lieut_Gruber said: ....no...... Btw maybe ask for a Conq buff also? Seeing you have 55k average, there must be something wrong with that ship also. My average isn’t 55k its 65k which is better than your 63k, I was just asking a genuine question 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapVogele Beta Tester 290 posts 3,590 battles Report post #12 Posted August 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, woppy101 said: My average isn’t 55k its 65k which is better than your 63k, I was just asking a genuine question I think the Henri IV is worse off than any other tier 10 cruiser. Its true that the Zao doesnt have the gimmicks that other cruisers have, it doesnt have the armor of the hindenburg or the moskva, dowsnt have the RoF of the Des Moines... but where the other ships excell at something, they suck at other things.. the Zao can do everything well which is why I think its one of the best tier 10 cruisers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #13 Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, woppy101 said: Does anyone feel like the Zao is in need of a buff with the general power creep that’s happening? Maybe a small buff to reload or something like that. Fire chance should be higher. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #14 Posted August 18, 2018 Better gun/torpedo angles is all it needs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBF-] Lieut_Gruber Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 828 posts 17,211 battles Report post #15 Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, woppy101 said: My average isn’t 55k its 65k which is better than your 63k, I was just asking a genuine question But I don't have the Conqueror? Edit: my wrong, I looked at total damage done, and missed a few numbers ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #16 Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Riselotte said: If these are 20 km Shima torps, the 12 km torp option is better. 20 km Asashio torps lack the anti-cruiser capability and thus aren't any good too, when you consider things like CB. nah it needs old shima 20km torps.. without those nerfs to detectability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] CptMinia Moderator, Players, Privateer 1,427 posts 11,709 battles Report post #17 Posted August 18, 2018 No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Kenliero Players 2,478 posts 11,195 battles Report post #18 Posted August 18, 2018 Maybe Rocket AA... like hood but long range. (8km) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #19 Posted August 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, robihr said: nah it needs old shima 20km torps.. without those nerfs to detectability. What a horrendous proposal. What Zao needs is Asashio's torpedoes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #20 Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, OVanBruce said: She recently got 12 km japanese torpedoes efectively making her one of strongest and most versatile ship in the game. What else would you need? Clearly it needs reload cutting to 4s base plus Minotaur heal and smoke generator. Seriously though, having recently obtained Zao it's a strong ship that performs well in T10 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #21 Posted August 18, 2018 49 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said: What a horrendous proposal. What Zao needs is Asashio's torpedoes! nah zao needs torps that can kill dd-s.. ca are meant to be dd counter. deep water torps cant kill them. almost every other nation has radar to counter dd-s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MCUZ] Erga_Buzerga Players 31 posts 4,261 battles Report post #22 Posted August 18, 2018 Yeah give it russian radar pls, I don't feel effective enough against DDs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #23 Posted August 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, robihr said: nah zao needs torps that can kill dd-s.. ca are meant to be dd counter. deep water torps cant kill them. almost every other nation has radar to counter dd-s. Sooo... give Zao radar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MBSSX] OldschoolGaming_YouTube Beta Tester 3,274 posts 16,879 battles Report post #24 Posted August 18, 2018 3 hours ago, woppy101 said: Does anyone feel like the Zao is in need of a buff with the general power creep that’s happening? Maybe a small buff to reload or something like that. Lets just meet in the middle and say....nope! Its borderline broken OP with the new torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P2Win Beta Tester 808 posts 8,067 battles Report post #25 Posted August 18, 2018 Buffing this ship is asking for trouble. You want a better zao? Play Hindenburg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites