[RUR] DreadOleRon [RUR] Beta Tester 19 posts 15,763 battles Report post #1 Posted August 18, 2018 I noticed in last couple of months an increasing number of players using no camouflages in battles. If these battles would be low tier it wouldn't concern me, but i'm very surprised to see more and more people in t8+ ships sailing naked. I understand that no-camo situation can happen if someone uses spec camos and just pressing battle-on from stat screen (happened to me a couple of times), but when i see on regular basis 4-5 ships in my team (in a single battle) having no paint, it feels, well, uninspiring and disheartening. When i start a battle, i'm doing so in an intent to win it. I like aggressive play, and i'm not afraid to sacrifice my ship if i calculate that trade to be in my teams favor. Also expecting the same from my team mates. So i'm very unhappy when it comes to that a third of my team turns out to be uncaring players (in the light of focus and dedication, this is a multiplayer game after all), stupid players or possibly even bots. I have a thought for the developers - implement a "missing camo, are u sure u want to battle this way" warning if there is no camo on ship when pressing "Battle" button. Would also like to hear other opinions, ideas, solutions to this... Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] principat121 Modder 6,023 posts 11,475 battles Report post #2 Posted August 18, 2018 Do you use ingame filter options? For ARP, Space, etc.? Because if so, the specific ships will be shown as without camo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,353 battles Report post #3 Posted August 18, 2018 48 minutes ago, DreadOleRon said: I noticed in last couple of months an increasing number of players using no camouflages in battles. If these battles would be low tier it wouldn't concern me, but i'm very surprised to see more and more people in t8+ ships sailing naked. I understand that no-camo situation can happen if someone uses spec camos and just pressing battle-on from stat screen (happened to me a couple of times), but when i see on regular basis 4-5 ships in my team (in a single battle) having no paint, it feels, well, uninspiring and disheartening. When i start a battle, i'm doing so in an intent to win it. I like aggressive play, and i'm not afraid to sacrifice my ship if i calculate that trade to be in my teams favor. Also expecting the same from my team mates. So i'm very unhappy when it comes to that a third of my team turns out to be uncaring players (in the light of focus and dedication, this is a multiplayer game after all), stupid players or possibly even bots. I have a thought for the developers - implement a "missing camo, are u sure u want to battle this way" warning if there is no camo on ship when pressing "Battle" button. Would also like to hear other opinions, ideas, solutions to this... Cheers! Why do you want to police how other people plays the game? Who are you? I have a thought for you, live and let live, perhaps people like the look of bare steel? Solutions: get a grip, no one owes you anything, in game or otherwise. Are you going to pay for the camos for everyone? Since you will not, you have no say in what anyone uses in game. 1 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #4 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) On 8/18/2018 at 12:29 PM, DreadOleRon said: I noticed in last couple of months an increasing number of players using no camouflages in battles. If these battles would be low tier it wouldn't concern me, but i'm very surprised to see more and more people in t8+ ships sailing naked. I understand that no-camo situation can happen if someone uses spec camos and just pressing battle-on from stat screen (happened to me a couple of times), but when i see on regular basis 4-5 ships in my team (in a single battle) having no paint, it feels, well, uninspiring and disheartening. When i start a battle, i'm doing so in an intent to win it. I like aggressive play, and i'm not afraid to sacrifice my ship if i calculate that trade to be in my teams favor. Also expecting the same from my team mates. So i'm very unhappy when it comes to that a third of my team turns out to be uncaring players (in the light of focus and dedication, this is a multiplayer game after all), stupid players or possibly even bots. I have a thought for the developers - implement a "missing camo, are u sure u want to battle this way" warning if there is no camo on ship when pressing "Battle" button. Would also like to hear other opinions, ideas, solutions to this... Cheers! Considering the quality of gameplay in high tiers, i would prefer a different kind of warning. 'You EDIT Alternatively, hello kitty online has a nice welcome offer for new players, a game which could be more to your liking'. The sad part is, that it's not that the bad players are ruining games each and every time, it's the damage farmers that are. Edited August 20, 2018 by Kampa1987 Insults 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-CP] NothingButTheRain Players 6,338 posts 14,259 battles Report post #5 Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, principat121 said: Do you use ingame filter options? For ARP, Space, etc.? Because if so, the specific ships will be shown as without camo. Perhaps he uses a potato pc and the camos just take ages to load Btw, it may also be the lighting, some camos are hard to distinguish with certain light angles. I had this with a Scharnhorst last week of which I thought it had no camo? But then I saw the icy spike things and it turned out to be the icy special camo the Scharnhorst has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POI--] Natsuzuki Players 448 posts 13,442 battles Report post #6 Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, DreadOleRon said: I noticed in last couple of months an increasing number of players using no camouflages in battles. If these battles would be low tier it wouldn't concern me, but i'm very surprised to see more and more people in t8+ ships sailing naked. I understand that no-camo situation can happen if someone uses spec camos and just pressing battle-on from stat screen (happened to me a couple of times), but when i see on regular basis 4-5 ships in my team (in a single battle) having no paint, it feels, well, uninspiring and disheartening. When i start a battle, i'm doing so in an intent to win it. I like aggressive play, and i'm not afraid to sacrifice my ship if i calculate that trade to be in my teams favor. Also expecting the same from my team mates. So i'm very unhappy when it comes to that a third of my team turns out to be uncaring players (in the light of focus and dedication, this is a multiplayer game after all), stupid players or possibly even bots. I have a thought for the developers - implement a "missing camo, are u sure u want to battle this way" warning if there is no camo on ship when pressing "Battle" button. Would also like to hear other opinions, ideas, solutions to this... Cheers! This is something i see very frequently; (why musashi captains and Missouri captains don't see a need to use camo is beyond my scope of comprehension) But it could be the case that you have filters in place preventing you from seeing certain camos; such as the new US camos or any anime/haloween camos. Maybe try making sure you have those turned on in the port wheel (bottom right) and seeing if this same amount persists; if it does; sorry but you just have below average players on your team is all XD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RUR] DreadOleRon [RUR] Beta Tester 19 posts 15,763 battles Report post #7 Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, principat121 said: Do you use ingame filter options? For ARP, Space, etc.? Because if so, the specific ships will be shown as without camo. Nop. I am not that kind of a purist. All the special ships and camos are display enabled in my client. I only disable the ARP and Southern dragon ships in my own carousel. That's a lot of Kongos and Myokos to shuffle trough if those filters are off. 1 hour ago, Jethro_Grey said: The sad part is, that it's not that the bad players are ruining games, it's the damage farmers you are. U imply that i'm a dmg farmer? Based on what? Have u seen me play? Or u checked my stats? 14 minutes ago, __Poi__ said: ... (why musashi captains and Missouri captains don't see a need to use camo is beyond my scope of comprehension) ... Exactly. I can accept the case of someone researching a new ship and forgeting a camo in a hurry to try it, But why would someone not use a perma paint on a preminum ship... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jss78 Players 1,292 posts 12,874 battles Report post #8 Posted August 18, 2018 I suspect most of these people simply forgot. This has been happening more to me recently. Basically this is because all these event camos with special bonuses are coming left, right, and centre. I have several hundred of these, running out of some, but more coming in. I get one of those excellent Shark/Eagle camos, I'll use it, and then I'm out of those and it's not auto-reapplied. It was easier back when I'd either use a possible perma-camo, or have the Type 5 on auto-reapply. Happens easier if I'm playing on TS, with chit-chatting going on etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,733 battles Report post #9 Posted August 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, DreadOleRon said: Nop. I am not that kind of a purist. All the special ships and camos are display enabled in my client. I only disable the ARP and Southern dragon ships in my own carousel. That's a lot of Kongos and Myokos to shuffle trough if those filters are off. U imply that i'm a dmg farmer? Based on what? Have u seen me play? Or u checked my stats? Exactly. I can accept the case of someone researching a new ship and forgeting a camo in a hurry to try it, But why would someone not use a perma paint on a preminum ship... 5 I can see why you would think that, tho it wasn't aimed at you. Was meant to be '...damage farmers that are...', just a typo. I fixed it in my original post. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RUR] DreadOleRon [RUR] Beta Tester 19 posts 15,763 battles Report post #10 Posted August 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said: I can see why you would think that, tho it wasn't aimed at you. Was meant to be '...damage farmers that are...', just a typo. I fixed it in my original post. My apologies then. All cool. And i can't agree more on problem of damage farmers (Damn Conquerors ;) ). What is the fun in sailing the map border and spilling HE... I would bite my leg out of boredom if i go that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #11 Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Juanx said: Why do you want to police how other people plays the game? Who are you? I have a thought for you, live and let live, perhaps people like the look of bare steel? Solutions: get a grip, no one owes you anything, in game or otherwise. Are you going to pay for the camos for everyone? Since you will not, you have no say in what anyone uses in game. Why do you want to police how other people handle their trash? Who are you? I have a thought for you, live and let live, perhaps people prefer to just throw garbage on the ground? Solutions: get a grip, no one owes you anything, in life or otherwise. Are you going to pay for trash bags for everyone? Since you will not, you have no say in what anyone does with their garbage. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #12 Posted August 18, 2018 44 minutes ago, DreadOleRon said: I only disable the ARP and Southern dragon ships in my own carousel. That's a lot of Kongos and Myokos to shuffle trough if those filters are off. I don't know about the Dragon ships but you could sell off the ARP ships you're not going to play. I did that the other day, 3.5m credits in the bank and 3 harbour slots is a lot more use to me than 4 "premium" Kongos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #13 Posted August 18, 2018 46 minutes ago, Strappster said: I don't know about the Dragon ships but you could sell off the ARP ships you're not going to play. I did that the other day, 3.5m credits in the bank and 3 harbour slots is a lot more use to me than 4 "premium" Kongos. Not a good idea if you're going for the Collector Club when it launches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #14 Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, hgbn_dk said: Not a good idea if you're going for the Collector Club when it launches I have no idea what that is but then the idea of collecting ships doesn't appeal to me anyway, I only keep the ships I know I'm going to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #15 Posted August 18, 2018 Each to his own.... Just a advice never sell stuff you can't repurchase again. You might regret it later 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Strapps [TOXIC] Players 1,135 posts 5,968 battles Report post #16 Posted August 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, hgbn_dk said: Each to his own.... Just a advice never sell stuff you can't repurchase again. You might regret it later Each to their own, as you say. I'm sure that should I feel the need to rape my eyeballs I've got plenty of garish camo schemes to choose from, I won't regret not having an ARP Hiei in port. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P2Win Beta Tester 808 posts 8,067 battles Report post #17 Posted August 18, 2018 Anytime I see a no camo person in high tier..I automatically assume they are a mong. Usually works 96.545% of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #18 Posted August 18, 2018 It is a bit depressing when I see T7/8/9/10 DD's without Camo, I usually ask if it's a visual bug but often get the response that they can't afford it or have run out or can't be bothered, a basic camo with 3% concealment costs 7,500 silver and as a DD (Khaba excluded) stealth is vital. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #19 Posted August 18, 2018 5 hours ago, P2Win said: Anytime I see a no camo person in high tier..I automatically assume they are a mong. Usually works 96.545% of the time. That's not a nice comment. Don't discriminate really handicapped people by comparing them to those no camo / no skill / only want to have fun going boom boom boom type of people. These people actively CHOOSE to be handicapped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #20 Posted August 18, 2018 Well, sometimes it may happen that the skipper of the cammo'les ship forgot to put it on though thats rare, but i know i can sometimes do that, running low on a specifc cammo so i turn auto resupply off, just to forget to put one on for the next battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #21 Posted August 18, 2018 And guess what.. you can't see all the people playing without premium consumables.. and would work fairly hard at it to check if everyone used basic signals. In the grand scheme merely lacking cammos barely matters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,353 battles Report post #22 Posted August 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Nechrom said: Why do you want to police how other people handle their trash? Who are you? I have a thought for you, live and let live, perhaps people prefer to just throw garbage on the ground? Solutions: get a grip, no one owes you anything, in life or otherwise. Are you going to pay for trash bags for everyone? Since you will not, you have no say in what anyone does with their garbage. Your point being? Im sure there is one, its only I can see none. So, if the OP is not going to pay for my camos, why is he to dictate how I play? You seem to have fun copypasting peoples posts, try making sense when you do it? But dont worry, all the snowflakes will like whatever you post about me, at least you have one another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #23 Posted August 18, 2018 12 hours ago, Juanx said: Why do you want to police how other people plays the game? Who are you? I have a thought for you, live and let live, perhaps people like the look of bare steel? Solutions: get a grip, no one owes you anything, in game or otherwise. Are you going to pay for the camos for everyone? Since you will not, you have no say in what anyone uses in game. Because the ships are easier to spot and hit. Do you like having team mates who are more vulnerable than the enemy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #24 Posted August 18, 2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flid_Merchant Players 341 posts 6,911 battles Report post #25 Posted August 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Hedgehog1963 said: Wahahaa have you read your own posts on the WoT forum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites