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What the title basically says I suppose.

I would like to see the Repulse implemented into the game as possibly a tier 6 or maybe higher "BB".

With it's 6 381mm guns it's very similar to the Graf Spee. Having big guns on a platform that isn't considered to be strong.

Anyways I have come up with some Stats for it just for fun:

(And yes I know premiums usually don't have modules but this is just only for if WG decides to release a RN battlecruiser line possibly)
(Also most of the information down below was taken by Wikipedia and other naval combat games. :D)

HMS Repulse (Premium tier 6 "BB")

Main battery: 381mm/42 Mk 1

Fire rate: 2.0 round per minute (30 second per shot)
180 degree time: 45.5 seconds
HE maximum damage: 6500
HE fire chance: 40% (Because why not lmao)
HE Max piercing: 48mm
HE initial velocity: 752m/s
AP maximum damage: 12000
AP initial velocity: 749m/s
AP shell weight: 879 Kg

Secondary battery/Anti-aircraft weapons:

 

4 × triple 102mm guns

6 × single 102mm AA guns

2 × quadruple 40mm 2-pounder pom-pom AA guns


Armour stats:


Belt: (76–152 mm)

Decks: (25–64 mm)

Barbettes: (102–178 mm)

Gun turrets: (178–229 mm)

Conning tower: (254 mm)

Bulkheads: (76–102 mm)

 

 

 

Hulls:

Hull (A):
Max health: 51400k
Torpedo damage reduction: 20%

Main Turrets: 3
Secondary gun turrets: 7
Hangar capacity: 3
AA guns: 2
Turning circle radius: 860m
Rudder movement time: 23.4 seconds
Surface detect: 16km
Air detect: 12km

Hull (B)
Max health: 56600k
Torpedo damage reduction: 20%
Main Turrets: 3
Secondary gun turrets: 7
Hangar capacity: 3
AA guns: 10
Turning circle radius: 860m
Rudder movement time: 18.4 seconds
Surface detect: 16km
Air detect: 12km

Hull (C)
Max health: 56000k
Torpedo damage reduction: 20%
Main Turrets: 3
Secondary gun turrets: 7
Hangar capacity: 3
AA guns: 29
Turning circle radius: 860m
Rudder movement time: 18.4 seconds
Surface detect: 16km
Air detect: 12km

Fire control systems:

 

Mark 4-1 Type:
Main battery max range: 15.8km
Secondary battery range: 4km

Mark 4-2 Type:
Main battery max range: 17.5km
Secondary battery range: 4km

Sigma value: (Undecided) 

Powerplant:

2 steam turbines producing 112000 Horsepower.

Max speed: 32.5 Knots.

Aircraft:
Fairey Swordfish Floatplane


And yeah. That's pretty much it.

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Repulse would be a tier 5 IMO, wasn't much modernised and at best comparable to a WW2 Kongo. Renown on the other hand would fit at tier 6 with the added deck armor and modern dual purpose secondaries.

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Just now, Alex_Connor said:

Repulse would be a tier 5 IMO, wasn't much modernised and at best comparable to a WW2 Kongo. Renown on the other hand would fit at tier 6 with the added deck armor and modern dual purpose secondaries.


Tier 5?

With 381mm guns and armour most cruisers at tier 4 can't pen? 

Erghhh... Just think of the graf spee. Why isn't it at tier 5? 

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1 hour ago, Alex_Connor said:

Repulse would be a tier 5 IMO, wasn't much modernised and at best comparable to a WW2 Kongo. Renown on the other hand would fit at tier 6 with the added deck armor and modern dual purpose secondaries.

I agree that she should be tier 5, she was not modified anywhere near as extensively as Renown which I would put at 6. 

While she does have large guns for tier 5, she doesn't have many of them, Kongo and New York meanwhile have smaller guns but they have more of them, which should offset Repulse's larger guns. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Jellicoe1916 said:

I agree that she should be tier 5, she was not modified anywhere near as extensively as Renown which I would put at 6. 

While she does have large guns for tier 5, she doesn't have many of them, Kongo and New York meanwhile have smaller guns but they have more of them, which should offset Repulse's larger guns. 

 

 

 

Renown as a tier 6? I could see it happening if they're wanting to put a BC line.

Queen mary as a tier 4, Repulse being 5, Etc. (Up until the G3 battlecruiser project)

I mean then we would have to nerf some stats on the repulse then if it wants to be a tier 5.

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1 hour ago, OakTankTree said:

 

Renown as a tier 6? I could see it happening if they're wanting to put a BC line.

Queen mary as a tier 4, Repulse being 5, Etc. (Up until the G3 battlecruiser project)

I mean then we would have to nerf some stats on the repulse then if it wants to be a tier 5.

My Proposal for a British BC line is Invincible/Indefatigable, QM, Tiger, Renown, Admiral, J3, G3 and K3

 

Repulse should work as a tier 5 premium with 30kts and 30s reload, while her HP should be between NY and Kongo. 

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1 minute ago, Jellicoe1916 said:

My Proposal for a British BC line is Invincible/Indefatigable, QM, Tiger, Renown, Admiral, J3, G3 and K3


Heh, what kind of names woud the J3 G3 and K3 have?

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3 minutes ago, OakTankTree said:


Heh, what kind of names woud the J3 G3 and K3 have?

 

Something very over the top like:

 

- HMS Terror

- HMS Incomparable

- HMS Magnificent (actually my favourite)

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Just now, 1MajorKoenig said:

 

Something very over the top like:

 

- HMS Terror

- HMS Incomparable

- HMS Magnificent (actually my favourite)



- HMS Stinky

:omegalul:

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45 minutes ago, OakTankTree said:


Tier 5?

With 381mm guns and armour most cruisers at tier 4 can't pen? 

Erghhh... Just think of the graf spee. Why isn't it at tier 5? 

 

Well, Wargaming has no problem putting a 1940 DD Design on Tier VI then this should also be fine.

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1 minute ago, Mandalorianer said:

 

Well, Wargaming has no problem putting a 1940 DD Design on Tier VI then this should also be fine.


True that

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2 hours ago, OakTankTree said:

What the title basically says I suppose.

I would like to see the Repulse implemented into the game as possibly a tier 6 or maybe higher "BB".

With it's 6 381mm guns it's very similar to the Graf Spee. Having big guns on a platform that isn't considered to be strong.

Anyways I have come up with some Stats for it just for fun:

(And yes I know premiums usually don't have modules but this is just only for if WG decides to release a RN battlecruiser line possibly)
(Also most of the information down below was taken by Wikipedia and other naval combat games. :D)

HMS Repulse (Premium tier 6 "BB")

Main battery: 381mm/42 Mk 1

Fire rate: 2.0 round per minute (30 second per shot)
180 degree time: 45.5 seconds
HE maximum damage: 6500
HE fire chance: 40% (Because why not lmao)
HE Max piercing: 48mm
HE initial velocity: 752m/s
AP maximum damage: 12000
AP initial velocity: 749m/s
AP shell weight: 879 Kg

Secondary battery/Anti-aircraft weapons:

 

4 × triple 102mm guns

6 × single 102mm AA guns

2 × quadruple 40mm 2-pounder pom-pom AA guns


Armour stats:


Belt: (76–152 mm)

Decks: (25–64 mm)

Barbettes: (102–178 mm)

Gun turrets: (178–229 mm)

Conning tower: (254 mm)

Bulkheads: (76–102 mm)

 

 

 

Hulls:

Hull (A):
Max health: 51400k
Torpedo damage reduction: 20%

Main Turrets: 3
Secondary gun turrets: 7
Hangar capacity: 3
AA guns: 2
Turning circle radius: 860m
Rudder movement time: 23.4 seconds
Surface detect: 16km
Air detect: 12km

Hull (B)
Max health: 56600k
Torpedo damage reduction: 20%
Main Turrets: 3
Secondary gun turrets: 7
Hangar capacity: 3
AA guns: 10
Turning circle radius: 860m
Rudder movement time: 18.4 seconds
Surface detect: 16km
Air detect: 12km

Hull (C)
Max health: 56000k
Torpedo damage reduction: 20%
Main Turrets: 3
Secondary gun turrets: 7
Hangar capacity: 3
AA guns: 29
Turning circle radius: 860m
Rudder movement time: 18.4 seconds
Surface detect: 16km
Air detect: 12km

Fire control systems:

 

Mark 4-1 Type:
Main battery max range: 15.8km
Secondary battery range: 4km

Mark 4-2 Type:
Main battery max range: 17.5km
Secondary battery range: 4km

Sigma value: (Undecided) 

Powerplant:

2 steam turbines producing 112000 Horsepower.

Max speed: 32.5 Knots.

Aircraft:
Fairey Swordfish Floatplane


And yeah. That's pretty much it.

Tell me your opinions down below yeet.

- OakTankTree

 

 

You can't just make up hard stats, like MV and aircraft. Muzzle velocity is most likely gonna be 732 (or average gun velocity), and the aircraft is gonna be a Supermarine Walrus, whenever she comes. Other than that, what the other guys said: T5 Repulse, T6 Renown.

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2 hours ago, OakTankTree said:


Tier 5?

With 381mm guns and armour most cruisers at tier 4 can't pen? 

Erghhh... Just think of the graf spee. Why isn't it at tier 5? 

The Admiral Graf Spee was designed as an exceptionally well armed cruiser whereas the Repulse and the Renown were designed as lightly armed battlecruisers 

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2 hours ago, OakTankTree said:


Tier 5?

With 381mm guns and armour most cruisers at tier 4 can't pen? 

Erghhh... Just think of the graf spee. Why isn't it at tier 5? 

Graf Spee is just fine at tier 6 because it gets cruiser matchmaking and is put up against things like Leander or Pensacola instead of being sent to fight the 12x 356mm gunned New Mexico or Fuso head on.

 

As a battleship (for matchmaking purposes) Repulse compares closely with the Kongo on armor and speed, Kongo would have 8 guns with 21.6km range and Repulse would have less guns and a lot less range but benefit from better armor overmatch thanks to the caliber.

 

Renown on the other hand would have the upgraded turrets for longer range plus a full modern AA suite which is enough to make the ship a tier 6.

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49 minutes ago, pzkpfwv1d said:

The Admiral Graf Spee was designed as an exceptionally well armed cruiser whereas the Repulse and the Renown were designed as lightly armed battlecruisers 

 

Lightly armoured battlecruisers. Ain't nothing light about 3x2x 15" guns.

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1 hour ago, Sturmtiger_304 said:

40% Fire chance.

Yeah. No. Let's not do that.

 

Let's just use what we already have, yeah :Smile-_tongue:

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3 hours ago, The_Dunk_Squad said:

Who would win, two state of the art Royal Navy Battleships or 88 Japanese flying boyes 

 

Repulse was not by any means state of the art, she was a 25 year old Battlecruiser from WW1. Sure she had been refitted over the years but that still doesn't make her state of the art. While she did get sunk that day she also managed to avoid the first 19 torpedoes fired at her, it was only through a pincer attack that they got her. 

 

Prince of Wales meanwhile was hit by a torpedo early in the engagement which effectively crippled her by damaging her steering equipment, even after that hit she still took 3 more torpedoes and a few bombs before she went under. The torpedo hit on PoW was more a matter of luck than by ship design. The exact same thing happened to Bismarck and she was on her maiden voyage. 

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I would like to see her in game too, one of the few RN ships I would actually want to have for myself. Well, provided they will not make it too gimmicky, which has prevented me from getting any RN ships so far... :cap_like:

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Sorry can’t have HMS Repulse at tier 5, she will take away the rightfull place of HMS Tiger, the most beautiful BC that ever sailed the oceans :)

 

Although Tiger can be downgraded to tier IV i think she is a more natural tier V. Although i wonder if she would stand up to f.e. Kongo.

 

I will opt for a tier VI Renown instead. She will not be that good, but cant be worse the the current Dunk.

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Renown would do 30 knots... Warspite's guns, modern secondaries, AA, thicker deck armour.... Quite a package. You could argue that Tiger could be a VI, too... she was more heavily armoured than the Repulse by design, had that reinforced again interwar, and was only scrapped because of her age. Give her some more modern AA and a slightly improved reload (a "what if" 1942 build) and she could compete. 

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15 minutes ago, Jvd2000 said:

she will take away the rightfull place of HMS Tiger

 

Why not both?

 

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2 hours ago, Jvd2000 said:

Sorry can’t have HMS Repulse at tier 5, she will take away the rightfull place of HMS Tiger, the most beautiful BC that ever sailed the oceans :)

 

Although Tiger can be downgraded to tier IV i think she is a more natural tier V. Although i wonder if she would stand up to f.e. Kongo.

 

I will opt for a tier VI Renown instead. She will not be that good, but cant be worse the the current Dunk.

 

You know, Dunkerque isn't bad, only she was balanced before the great powercreep and has been overtaken. *sighs in pain*

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