[WTFNO] FearsomeFlotsam Players 202 posts Report post #1 Posted August 12, 2018 I was under the impression that, when everybody got to 75 loyalty, the people who have been allowing Sharks to stomp Eagles every day would switch sides, and the Eagles would start beating the Sharks. But today the Sharks are still beating the Eagles? Any ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #2 Posted August 12, 2018 you were assuming that a) a majority of the playerbase plays the game religiously enough to get full loyalty to one team at the earliest possible date and b) a majority of the playerbase pays enough attention to even realize it would now make sense to switch teams? see the flaws? 12 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WTFNO] FearsomeFlotsam Players 202 posts Report post #3 Posted August 12, 2018 Still, I would have thought the best players would be there or thereabouts, and those are the ones most likely to turn the tide of winning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #4 Posted August 12, 2018 I have played almost every day since it started. Since I don't always play enough in one day to be offered the swap, I'm on 61 out of 75, so I'll be on sharks for another 4-5 days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[I401] That_Other_Nid Players 969 posts 11,943 battles Report post #5 Posted August 12, 2018 Sharks get blue camo. there is another reason to pick a side? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnEvilJoke Players 1,647 posts 7,138 battles Report post #6 Posted August 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said: you were assuming that a) a majority of the playerbase plays the game religiously enough to get full loyalty to one team at the earliest possible date and b) a majority of the playerbase pays enough attention to even realize it would now make sense to switch teams? see the flaws? Also that most people probably did the math and instead of going with +2 loyality they took the Create for max. coal, e.g. started as eagle and switched then to sushi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #7 Posted August 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, DangerousDave2k said: Still, I would have thought the best players would be there or thereabouts, and those are the ones most likely to turn the tide of winning. except this event isn't about the "best" players making the most points, it's about the most active ones. not (always) the same thing... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TIPC] Bmsrt Players 310 posts 16,672 battles Report post #8 Posted August 12, 2018 Missed a few day,sitting 73/75 so yeah Sharks is the way I go...at least for till Tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #9 Posted August 12, 2018 Probably a few really crap players that didnt play enought to get the "change team" notification everyday, these players could theoretically have missed such a pop up 2 times. Theoretically of course. *Looks at 74 loyalty* *Goes and hides* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WTFNO] FearsomeFlotsam Players 202 posts Report post #10 Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mandalorianer said: Also that most people probably did the math and instead of going with +2 loyality they took the Create for max. coal, e.g. Started as eagle and switched then to sushi. I'm not sure that's very good maths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnEvilJoke Players 1,647 posts 7,138 battles Report post #11 Posted August 12, 2018 23 minutes ago, DangerousDave2k said: I'm not sure that's very good maths. The Event leasts 28 days? 28x3=84 You need 75 for all 195 token of one side First 25 days you switch to the winning side = 75 Loyality, 25 Crates for switching and 25 for winning = 50 Cartes 75 Loyality = 195 token = 39 Crates If one makes 1250 Points every day = 100 Crates Assuming you make every day Top 10 (for whatever reason) = 75 Crates Makes, if my math is not complitly wrong, after 25 days 164 Crates 164 Crates x 450 Coal = 73800 Coal For the last 3 days: 2 times you switch to the new winning team, once you stay = 2 Crates + 11 Loyality 11 Loyality = 20 Token = 4 Crates Winning, making 1250 points and Top 10 = 24 Crates After the 3 days = 30 Crates 30 Crates x 450 Coal = 13500 Coal 28 days later = 87300 Coal 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #12 Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, DangerousDave2k said: everybody got to 75 loyalty Trust me majority is still lacking a few points. Since they were out or are only logging in and sometimes playing a few games max. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONI] MoveZig Players 1,622 posts 20,823 battles Report post #13 Posted August 12, 2018 The recruiter thing can take a while to come up, I once got it after the second daily container. I play the game daily and even I am at 58 LP for Sharks. Not everyone gets 5 LP every single day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #14 Posted August 12, 2018 I'm on 72 points, so yeah, another day or two before i switch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnEvilJoke Players 1,647 posts 7,138 battles Report post #15 Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, MoveZig said: The recruiter thing can take a while to come up, I once got it after the second daily container. I play the game daily and even I am at 58 LP for Sharks. Not everyone gets 5 LP every single day. For me the massage comes after 5 played games... Strange... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WTFNO] FearsomeFlotsam Players 202 posts Report post #16 Posted August 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Mandalorianer said: The Event leasts 28 days? 28x3=84 You need 75 for all 195 token of one side First 25 days you switch to the winning side = 75 Loyality, 25 Crates for switching and 25 for winning = 50 Cartes 75 Loyality = 195 token = 39 Crates If one makes 1250 Points every day = 100 Crates Assuming you make every day Top 10 (for whatever reason) = 75 Crates Makes, if my math is not complitly wrong, after 25 days 164 Crates 164 Crates x 450 Coal = 73800 Coal For the last 3 days: 2 times you switch to the new winning team, once you stay = 2 Crates + 11 Loyality 11 Loyality = 20 Token = 4 Crates Winning, making 1250 points and Top 10 = 24 Crates After the 3 days = 30 Crates 30 Crates x 450 Coal = 13500 Coal 28 days later = 87300 Coal If you switch sides every day, roughly 50% of the days you will be on the losing side, which means the crate you got for switching you will lose for not winning on 50% of days. So your net positive over 28 days is plus 14 crates compared to just staying on the same side - but you don't build up any loyalty, so don't get loyalty bonuses. The amount of crates you can buy from loyalty bonuses is a lot more than 14: you can earn something in the region of 250 tokens (very rough guess) by sticking to one side until max loyalty and then sticking to the other, which is enough for 50 crates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONI] MoveZig Players 1,622 posts 20,823 battles Report post #17 Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, Mandalorianer said: For me the massage comes after 5 played games... Strange... So it's consistently every 5 games? Okay, that's still a time investment of potentially an hour and a half, depending on the mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WTFNO] FearsomeFlotsam Players 202 posts Report post #18 Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, MoveZig said: So it's consistently every 5 games? Okay, that's still a time investment of potentially an hour and a half, depending on the mode. I was under the impression you get the offer after you reach your second crate of the day, but could be wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnEvilJoke Players 1,647 posts 7,138 battles Report post #19 Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, MoveZig said: So it's consistently every 5 games? Okay, that's still a time investment of potentially an hour and a half, depending on the mode. Don't 100% me on it but yes... I mean I make my points almost exclusivly in Co-Op so it is maybe wins?! All I can say is that I got the massage every day sofar within the first hour of playing... So 5-ish games in Co-Op 3 minutes ago, DangerousDave2k said: If you switch sides every day, roughly 50% of the days you will be on the losing side, which means the crate you got for switching you will lose for not winning on 50% of days. So your net positive over 28 days is plus 14 crates compared to just staying on the same side - but you don't build up any loyalty, so don't get loyalty bonuses. The amount of crates you can buy from loyalty bonuses is a lot more than 14: you can earn something in the region of 250 tokens (very rough guess) by sticking to one side until max loyalty and then sticking to the other, which is enough for 50 crates. You decide every day anew which side you inittialy join so you can switch every day from eagle to sushi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WTFNO] FearsomeFlotsam Players 202 posts Report post #20 Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Mandalorianer said: Don't 100% me on it but yes... I mean I make my points almost exclusivly in Co-Op so it is maybe wins?! All I can say is that I got the massage every day sofar within the first hour of playing... So 5-ish games in Co-Op You decide every day anew which side you inittialy join so you can switch every day from eagle to sushi Still, 28 crates < 50 crates (with the option also to buy camos etc). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #21 Posted August 12, 2018 Pardon me if im asking this, i know the answer is somwhere in the forums, but after reaching full loyalty with one team, how mutch loyalty tokens can you earn with the other till the event ends? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnEvilJoke Players 1,647 posts 7,138 battles Report post #22 Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, DangerousDave2k said: Still, 28 crates < 50 crates (with the option also to buy camos etc). You still get at the end of the day 3 points of loyality for the side you end up with and at least made 1 point progress. I myself farmed the 75 loyality and since yesterday I switch from sushi to eagles for 1 Crate more every day and currently I'am on 78/75 Loyality for eagles and will be tomorrow at 81/75. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #23 Posted August 12, 2018 i am [edited]pissed about rng element of the swap. one day that i didnt get the offer to join eagles i played 10-20 games.. so i needed one day extra in sharks. cause you cant have enough RNG... idiots whoever thought about adding RNG to damn event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #24 Posted August 12, 2018 Vor 38 Minuten, Mandalorianer sagte: The Event leasts 28 days? nope Vor 20 Minuten, MoveZig sagte: So it's consistently every 5 games? Okay, that's still a time investment of potentially an hour and a half, depending on the mode. no... data collected from several accounts: bottom axes number of games to get the offer (the 10+ was in fact no offer after 18 games)... and as far as I can see it is not triggered by a win or a lose, number of points, collected containers, finished missions, ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #25 Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, DangerousDave2k said: I was under the impression that, when everybody got to 75 loyalty, the people who have been allowing Sharks to stomp Eagles every day would switch sides, and the Eagles would start beating the Sharks. But today the Sharks are still beating the Eagles? Any ideas? You dont need to care about that. When you get 75 / max loyalty for Sharks just go to Eagles, as you will get ~4 daily team containers + tokens which you can spend also on team containers. In the worst scenario you lose ONLY 1 daily team-win container, nothing more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites