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Again i get a game where the enemy has a lot more radar and wins very easily,it was predicted we will get slaughter straight away (which we did)

 

Radar needs removing or heavily nerfed, this is not fun at all

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yet ANOTHER dd player which wants to sit down in it's smoke screen undisturbed and torp enemies from distance without any chance of being shooted back??

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Is Radar amazingly fun to play against? No, not really, its frustrating if there are 5 or 6 radars on a team and your own support is a long way away.

Is Radar OP? Not really. Unless a DD sits inside it waiting to die without any consideration of how to outplay the radar.

 

But then surely you could say that using WASD hax vs your Shima torps is also OP, as is using hydro to spot them, as is thinking, firing guns, using braincells etc.

 

I am sorry but hidden stats player bemoaning Radar being OP just does not wash. At all.

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Id love to see the replay...

Okinawa is a pretty favorable map against Radar ships, when you take B/C its pretty hard to Radar and not overextend. Moskvas get spotted 2 km before they can radar (and even then they would need some kinda indication that they are able to Radar something (cap boundaries or smoke). If the Radar ships got backup, then the enemy team was just plain better.

Id understand the radar unbalance on another map and/or other ships than Moskvas.

Since from your screen showing you went A, id say wrong cap?

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29 minutes ago, Sargento_YO said:

Yet ANOTHER dd player which wants to sit down in it's smoke screen undisturbed and torp enemies from distance without any chance of being shooted back??

 

Not only that - he went A on Okinawa. The ONLY place where a radar cruiser could sneak up on him. Only a l2p issue in progress here.

 

 

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The radar thread has already been linked so there's only one thing left to say:

The hell did you go to A cap on that map? That is literally the ONLY part of the map where a radar cruiser could even attempt to use his radar without exposing himself to your entire team in the process.

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44 minutes ago, Sargento_YO said:

Yet ANOTHER dd player which wants to sit down in it's smoke screen undisturbed and torp enemies from distance without any chance of being shooted back??

Man, I get you hate DDs, I admittedly used to too but dude... "Yet ANOTHER time you making the same exact comment as always??"

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4 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

The radar thread has already been linked so there's only one thing left to say:

The hell did you go to A cap on that map? That is literally the ONLY part of the map where a radar cruiser could even attempt to use his radar without exposing himself to your entire team in the process.

Why would ANYONE go A in this map anyway ? It's the best way to lose the game.

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I got to admit..... you can 't go A cap on that map and complain about getting caught.  

A cap has no escape options. You either win or you die.

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1 hour ago, Sargento_YO said:

Yet ANOTHER dd player which wants to sit down in it's smoke screen undisturbed and torp enemies from distance without any chance of being shooted back??

 

Yes we KNOW you hate DD's having smoke which makes it trickier for you to pwn them when you're in your seal clubbing mid tier CV's, we also KNOW you're beneath contempt.

Give this drivel up it's the stupidest nonsense ever. A DD player with a brain will ONLY sit in smoke for a few specialised reasons and avoiding air drops is one of them, the other is to do some daka if there's someone else spotting and low risk of being torpedoed out. Smoking up near a radar would be severely dumb.

I have several guys I'd call friends in your clan, the SCRUBS are generally a good laugh and good players, but frankly you drag their name down badly.

 

As people have rightly pointed out to @Kiagy he was in a stupid place on the most useless cap on a bad map for radar ships (quite honestly it's just a bad map full stop) so it's a complete own goal even when he made an additional radar whine thread and ignored the sticky one.

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3 hours ago, Kiagy said:

Again i get a game where the enemy has a lot more radar and wins very easily,it was predicted we will get slaughter straight away (which we did)

 

Radar needs removing or heavily nerfed, this is not fun at all

 

And another "radar OP" mimimi thread, why can't this people post their ..... in the main thread and must open another one again and again?

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6 hours ago, SHDRKN4792 said:

Man, I get you hate DDs, I admittedly used to too but dude... "Yet ANOTHER time you making the same exact comment as always??"

 

And it is still as wrong as ever.

 

As to the topic at hand, radar is not OP it is just a little too prevalent at the moment. If WG had not given it to the US CL line things would be pretty much fine.

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11 hours ago, ShinGetsu said:

Why would ANYONE go A in this map anyway ? It's the best way to lose the game.

Yeah!, A is idiot magnet, most of the playerbase gets attracted to A like a fly is to dung.. i have complained about okinawa for over a year now , and WG doesn't fix or remove A or remove this stupid map.

 

I have given up on this map trying to give advice to go to C aswell for some map control , but this makes them hide even harder at A

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Its shima u Play right? Is say Select the 20km torps Go wide of any objectives and spam - Hey prestao no radar issues, u might even buy asashio in time  to get similar results with trb included

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30 minutes ago, Ysterpyp said:

Yeah!, A is idiot magnet, most of the playerbase gets attracted to A like a fly is to dung.. i have complained about okinawa for over a year now , and WG doesn't fix or remove A or remove this stupid map.

 

I have given up on this map trying to give advice to go to C aswell for some map control , but this makes them hide even harder at A

True, it is nearly every other game. When I experience the depressing realization after beginning to move to between B and C on this map (I usually play Mogami, so I try to back up our DD at B first, then move on to C) that any minute now I will have to make a complete U-turn to return to A because nearly the entire bloody team Lemminged and got stuck there yet again. The ultimate frustration...:Smile_facepalm:

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Now lets be clear about A, where did i mention i actually went into A ? anyone ?

 

Because obviously i did not, i spammed parts of A with torps then moved North of the cap, enemy Yeuyang captured A quickly

 

All we see on this forum when radar is mentioned is BBabies and CAuliflowers throwing a tantrum at the sight of someone uttering the word "RADAR"

 

 

So you whiners can have your beloved radar, DD play suffers massively, not only do you see everything within approximately 10km, you can also see through islands

 

Yeah i know; its laughable

 

 

Radar needs to be nerfed to "line of sight", i know its hard for the BBabies and CAuliflowers having a fit of rage at the mere mention of radar, those naughty DD's might damage your shiny new ships, how dare they!

 

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1 minute ago, Kiagy said:

not only do you see everything within approximately 10km, you can also see through islands

 

Yeah i know; its laughable

 

That's not so bad, considering the AA goes through mountains

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1 hour ago, Ysterpyp said:

Yeah!, A is idiot magnet, most of the playerbase gets attracted to A like a fly is to dung.. i have complained about okinawa for over a year now , and WG doesn't fix or remove A or remove this stupid map.

 

I have given up on this map trying to give advice to go to C aswell for some map control , but this makes them hide even harder at A

I personally think Okinawa is a quite OK map.

Standard 3 cap zone domination.

 

We should stop blaming the map desing for peoples' stupidity.

They put a trap cap there, which attracts idiots.

 

It is not WGs fault.. Its the player base..

I've never ever seen a win in that map when more than 2 people goes to A..

B-C always win.. let them go to A, leave one DD around the A to torp the pushers.. then they will sit happily and uselessly for over 10 mins in there..

 

It is not a good map ok, but not a shite map either..

It is the playerbase which is shite!

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8 minutes ago, Kiagy said:

Now lets be clear about A, where did i mention i actually went into A ? anyone ?

 

Because obviously i did not, i spammed parts of A with torps then moved North of the cap, enemy Yeuyang captured A quickly

 

All we see on this forum when radar is mentioned is BBabies and CAuliflowers throwing a tantrum at the sight of someone uttering the word "RADAR"

 

 

So you whiners can have your beloved radar, DD play suffers massively, not only do you see everything within approximately 10km, you can also see through islands

 

Yeah i know; its laughable

 

 

Radar needs to be nerfed to "line of sight", i know its hard for the BBabies and CAuliflowers having a fit of rage at the mere mention of radar, those naughty DD's might damage your shiny new ships, how dare they!

 

 

Let's see (OK only I can see as my stats aren't public), I play roughly 2 DD games for every 1 in any other ship, I have and play at least once every day:-

Gearing

Fletcher

Yueyang

Chung Mu

Z-52

Grozevoi

Shimakaze

Harekaze

Akizuki

Plus there's Kidd, Leningrad, Sims, Z-39, Gallant, Blyskawica, LoYang that frequently meet the dreaded radar and 4  T5 and 6's that occasionally meet Atlanta, Belfast and Indiana radars.

 

In short I am a stealth DD player and I can cope with radars without screaming that the sky is falling.

It's inconvenient and if I screw up it can be fatal, but that's my failure to position or spot.

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8 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said:

 

Let's see (OK only I can see as my stats aren't public), I play roughly 2 DD games for every 1 in any other ship, I have and play at least once every day:-

Gearing

Fletcher

Yueyang

Chung Mu

Z-52

Grozevoi

Shimakaze

Harekaze

Akizuki

Plus there's Kidd, Leningrad, Sims, Z-39, Gallant, Blyskawica, LoYang that frequently meet the dreaded radar and 4  T5 and 6's that occasionally meet Atlanta, Belfast and Indiana radars.

 

In short I am a stealth DD player and I can cope with radars without screaming that the sky is falling.

It's inconvenient and if I screw up it can be fatal, but that's my failure to position or spot.

T4,5 and 6 has little radar,but still OP regardless of where it is. T9 and T10 is inundated with radar

 

Just a simple nerf to Line of Sight is sufficient, but no; the BBabies and CAuliflowers want to be selfish and have it all

 

 

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Just now, Kiagy said:

T4,5 and 6 has little radar,but still OP regardless of where it is. T9 and T10 is inundated with radar

 

Just a simple nerf to Line of Sight is sufficient, but no; the BBabies and CAuliflowers want to be selfish and have it all

 

 

 

Rubbish.

Dealing with radar just takes some adaptation.

If your team won't support you in capping by killing or forcing the radars away from the limited spots that radar cruisers can use then go elsewhere or tell them that without help it's impossible. DD's are too fragile to operate unsupported.

Of course if you sit in smoke or in the middle of a cap then it's entirely your own inability to play or learn, not the fault of the radar.

Learn to cope or don't play DD, I'm saying that as a dedicated DD player.

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No need to nerf radar.

As long as you're a decent player with a sufficient amount of awareness, you fear them less than planes and hydro.

 

I'm really getting tired of this constant whine. *edit

 

And no, tier 9-10 isn't "inundated" by radar. There's more often 2 or 3 radar per team, and it's perfectly playable in EVERY map.

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8 hours ago, BeauNidl3 said:

 

Rubbish.

Dealing with radar just takes some adaptation.

If your team won't support you in capping by killing or forcing the radars away from the limited spots that radar cruisers can use then go elsewhere or tell them that without help it's impossible. DD's are too fragile to operate unsupported.

Of course if you sit in smoke or in the middle of a cap then it's entirely your own inability to play or learn, not the fault of the radar.

Learn to cope or don't play DD, I'm saying that as a dedicated DD player.

 

The only possible radar infestation fix imho would be to shorten its duration by a small margin.

Anything else would lead to balance problems... specially LOS implementation that would create some serious game design change (probably).

 

8 hours ago, ShinGetsu said:

No need to nerf radar.

As long as you're a decent player with a sufficient amount of awareness, you fear them less than planes and hydro.

 

I'm really getting tired of this constant whine. *edit

 

And no, tier 9-10 isn't "inundated" by radar. There's more often 2 or 3 radar per team, and it's perfectly playable in EVERY map.

 

No need to loose it bro :)

Radar as game mechanics is not a problem on its own ... its the amount of it.

I agree with adaptation .... I do It all the time, but radar spread in last year to almost 50% of the team composition.

 

As long as WG doesnt start mounting it on BBs ... I can deal with it.

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