[-MNG-] M0bius_One Players 214 posts 4,292 battles Report post #1 Posted August 7, 2018 I really dislike playing this mode, the maps are too small and there's way too many radars per team. It's just claustrophobic and it either leads to a huge camp fest inside the first ring with anyone going in to cap getting blown apart in a cauldron of fire, or a complete clusterfuck that ends in 3 minutes. 8 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Mr_Tayto Players 1,099 posts 10,119 battles Report post #2 Posted August 7, 2018 I like it. Anything that brings ships closer together is a good thing IMO. My experience is also very different from yours, in that you can have very tense and exciting battles in Epicenter. Also I think allowing the playerbase to 'opt out' is divisive and will lead to massive wait times in the queue. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #3 Posted August 7, 2018 I, too, do hate Epeencenter Mode, as it is just utterly dumb and makes dumb players play even dumber, but... 57 minutes ago, Mr_Tayto said: ...allowing the playerbase to 'opt out' is... ...even more dumb. You can't allow them to "opt out" of only one mode. And allowing them to opt out of any mode they don't like would really mean long waiting times in the MM. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Mr_Tayto Players 1,099 posts 10,119 battles Report post #4 Posted August 7, 2018 Standard battle is the one I hate. Encourages potatoes to disperse around the maps instead of fighting for positions or objectives. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #5 Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr_Tayto said: Standard battle is the one I hate. Encourages potatoes to disperse around the maps instead of fighting for positions or objectives. I agree, I've had much more fun and exciting Epicenter games than 90% of Standard battle games which just turn into campsites. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] Cyclops_ Players 2,108 posts 36,213 battles Report post #6 Posted August 7, 2018 Love epicentre, but hate players that just can not grasp the simple fundamental objective of this map and just wander off and do there own thing rather than support the CA & DD that enter and hold the centre cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ICI] Linkaex [ICI] Players 817 posts 4,619 battles Report post #7 Posted August 7, 2018 I find the maps really meh at best. But I really starting to like Epicenter as of recently. It feels refreshing after playing an amount of the other standard game modes. And it forces people to play for the objectives more so that passive gameplay ain't that rewarding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[K2NGS] USNavy_12 Players 87 posts 30,498 battles Report post #8 Posted August 7, 2018 I always tell the team that there is a reason why it is called epiCENTER and not epiMAPBOARDER :) Good game mode! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TAYTO] ThePopesHolyFinger Players 1,101 posts 15,043 battles Report post #9 Posted August 7, 2018 46 minutes ago, Cyclops_ said: Love epicentre, but hate players that just can not grasp the simple fundamental objective of this map and just wander off and do there own thing rather than support the CA & DD that enter and hold the centre cap. Do they not grasp the fundamental objective or do they just hate the mode they're forced to play? I yolo'd it anytime I saw it, and I'll yolo it if I play WoWs again. It's an awful mode, no matter how much anyone tells us how good and fun it is. If folk don't like it, they aren't going to put any effort into playing it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,353 battles Report post #10 Posted August 7, 2018 No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #11 Posted August 7, 2018 It's am awful mode. Made worse by wannabe pros who think if you don't rush the epicenter then you'll lose... As long as some of you stay inside the 3 circles then it's basically a Standard Battle as the points tick so slowly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #12 Posted August 7, 2018 IMHO Epicenter mode really needs good teamwork and trust in order to do anything more than simply endure it. I'd love to see a video of a 12 v 12 Clan battle on Epicenter. I think that you would see it played to it's true potential. As it is I would rather see it removed from the game entirely. However I respect the fact that for some people (especially those who like hectic, close quarters combat) the Epicenter mode is wonderful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estaca_de_Bares Players 1,534 posts 25,837 battles Report post #13 Posted August 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, Negativvv said: As long as some of you stay inside the 3 circles then it's basically a Standard Battle as the points tick so slowly. They don't tick at all if the inner circle is contested (that equals to contesting all the rings), just go up and down with the ships sunk. I don't mind epicentre mode, but some maps (Tears of the Desert) that have it aren't that well suited for it. If I could tell one map that doesn't have epicentre ATM but was pretty enjoyable with it, then Warrior's Path: it was one of the best maps to play during the ranked season when the split IJN DDs were introduced, no matter what kind of ship you used. I think bringing it back for, say, T7-8 MM could work and also serve as a learning ground of the high tier maps for people going up the lines. Salute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #14 Posted August 7, 2018 56 minutes ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said: IMHO Epicenter mode really needs good teamwork and trust in order to do anything more than simply endure it. I'd love to see a video of a 12 v 12 Clan battle on Epicenter. I think that you would see it played to it's true potential. this, for competitive mode it is a good mode, but when it comes to randoms, not so mutch. I dont think it needs to be removed just used in a right way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #15 Posted August 7, 2018 I find Epicentre on Tears pretty annoying as a DD player as I'm usually the only one willing to cap sit while the other DD's selfishly go and farm damage. It's really an irritating game mode at times. On the occasions that the team actually plays as a team it's fine, but with the usual Random teams it can be thoroughly miserable. All that said an opt out of any game mode would mean that Epicentre and Standard Battle would basically never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CMWR] Lootboxer Players 3,817 posts 21,306 battles Report post #16 Posted August 7, 2018 I hate it on tears of desert with passion. I like this map in a domination mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #17 Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, BeauNidl3 said: (...) All that said an opt out of any game mode would mean that Epicentre and Standard Battle would basically never happen. Unfortunately you're mistaken about Standard Battles. There is a big population that hates Domination and likes Standard Battles (and would like them even more if caps were removed). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLAST] Armorin [BLAST] Players 763 posts 13,067 battles Report post #18 Posted August 8, 2018 Epicentre is great. Park your DD behind an island to block the central cap, go make a cup of tea. Kind of reminds me of B cap in trap. Yawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #19 Posted August 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Armorin said: Epicentre is great. Park your DD behind an island to block the central cap, go make a cup of tea. Kind of reminds me of B cap in trap. Yawn. B cap in Trap? B cap in Trap is exciting. There's a lot going on around it and it's easy to flank so if you get yourself stuck behind that island, you might have a big problem pretty fast. If you want a comparison to TotD Epicenter, you should bring up the masterpiece of design that is the C cap on Shatter. Somebody needs to block it and the person that does is locked out of 1/3 of the game... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #20 Posted August 8, 2018 Gets my vote. Don't like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #21 Posted August 8, 2018 Epicenter is just disgusting.. for randoms.. I believe that mode is the one which requires the most teamwork. There can be very different and numerous tactics which can be implemented as a team! I would like to see that mode added into Clan Battles, as much as I would like to see it removed from random PVP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLAST] Armorin [BLAST] Players 763 posts 13,067 battles Report post #22 Posted August 8, 2018 3 hours ago, eliastion said: B cap in Trap? B cap in Trap is exciting. There's a lot going on around it and it's easy to flank so if you get yourself stuck behind that island, you might have a big problem pretty fast. If you want a comparison to TotD Epicenter, you should bring up the masterpiece of design that is the C cap on Shatter. Somebody needs to block it and the person that does is locked out of 1/3 of the game... B cap on trap can get boring pretty fast if both teams decide to bunch up at the Islands either side of it. Ok, C cap on shatter definitely trumps anything. It takes brave teamwork and a poor enemy to unlock that one fast. A good example of the brick wall and boulder map design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-MNG-] M0bius_One Players 214 posts 4,292 battles Report post #23 Posted August 8, 2018 14 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said: I, too, do hate Epeencenter Mode, as it is just utterly dumb and makes dumb players play even dumber, but... ...even more dumb. You can't allow them to "opt out" of only one mode. And allowing them to opt out of any mode they don't like would really mean long waiting times in the MM. I'm basing it on the fact that the players who still like Epicenter can play it and those who don't won't get frustrated when they get 3 epicenter games in 10 matches. It's more the fact it leads to really wonky games imo, since a lot of people don't like it and sort of stop caring and just either yolo rush to get on to the next game or end up camping 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,373 battles Report post #24 Posted August 8, 2018 I think the idea of giving an opt out for Epicentre in Tears of the Desert is actually very unbalancing to the game Tears of the Desert and Epicentre should be moved to either team or clan battles only and not included in random battles at all 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RO-RN] Animalul2012 Players 1,345 posts 21,361 battles Report post #25 Posted August 8, 2018 no force people to play the objective if they dont they lose. to many cowards sniping from 20km away such a good gameplay. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites