3rd Anniversary collection rewards revaled

[Aragathor]

From reddit:

 

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The rewards from the 3rd anniversary collection have been presented on the PTS. And they are as follows:

-10x WoWS Anniversary camo (+100% XP)

-10x Basilisk signal

-10x Scylla signal

-10x Leviathan signal

 

Final reward

-Flag

-1x SC

 

The previous anniversary collection gave out permanent camos with +50% to commander and free XP and a Flag.  The ships that received the camos were:

-Z-23

-Kiev

-New Orleans

-Charles Martell

-Monarch

 

Valuing the camos at the standard T8 price of 3.000 doubloons the total value would be 15.000 doubloons.

 

Unless anything changes the 3rd anniversary collection will give out significantly less than the 2nd Anniversary collection, with not a single permanent item save the Flag. I'm disappointed but not surprised, as this follows the current trend of WG reducing rewards. If the crates with the collection items are as hard as some of last years achievements, then this will certainly lower the value of the collection even further.

 

Outside of the collection the Arsenal will have a special anniversary section with items sold for tokens, but the prices on the PTS server are most likely quite lower compared to what we will see. Available items are:

-Dasha captains

-Space captains

-Anniversary camo

-Special signals (Basilisk, Leviathan, Scylla)

-Patches

 

There are also 2 permanent camos:

-Edinburgh

-Z-23

These can only be bought for copper.

[Juanx]

Note that my "cool" relates to you providing the info to us, not the promotion in itself.

 

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Cool.

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[Aragathor]

Just now, Juanx said:

Note that my "cool" relates to you providing the info to us, not the promotion in itself.

Cool.

[FishDogFoodShack]

Consistency be damned I guess. They'd have to put actual effort into making camos. Why do that when they've openly stated that rewarding their playerbase is not what they want to do?

 

I'm more interested if, like last year, we get the supercontainers and special flags per t10 owned and X000 battles played, respectively. I'm starting to doubt that'll happen though with how stingy WG is being, like a petulant child tired of being told by it's parents to share.

 

Can't wait to read all the blurbs on collection items of WG patting themselves on the back for their terrible design decisions. Inb4 statements like, "RN BBs/t10 Ranked/New Premiums were overwhelmingly well received by everyone and we are gods among men for making them, worship us." or perhaps, "The handling of the Graf Zeppelin shows how much we care about our playerbase and was a heartwearming example of unity between players and developers during it's year-long balancing."

[Juanx]

18 minutes ago, FishDogFoodShack said:

Consistency be damned I guess.

 

Hey, they are consistently getting worse, you can give them that right?  

[AnEvilJoke]

If its going to be the same sh*t system as last years I'am already out.

[Seaman_Staines1]

1 hour ago, Aragathor said:

Valuing the camos at the standard T8 price of 3.000 doubloons the total value would be 15.000 doubloons.

Give us the 15000 doubloons.

 

23 minutes ago, Mandalorianer said:

If its going to be the same sh*t system as last years I'am already out.

I am with you on that.

 

56 minutes ago, FishDogFoodShack said:

Why do that when they've openly stated that rewarding their playerbase is not what they want to do?

Agree.

Got an EMail some weeks ago telling me I had a token  I could spend in the shop. Because I have been playing for 3 years and I had one week to use it.

One week to use a worthless token after 3 years as a good customer. I was so disgusted I deleted the Email and never used the token. My first reaction was to tell them to stick the token where the sun don't shine. But then what good would that do War Gaming don't give a F**k about you anyway.

 

[HaachamaShipping]

18 minutes ago, Scipio_Africanus1829 said:

Agree.

Got an EMail some weeks ago telling me I had a token  I could spend in the shop. Because I have been playing for 3 years and I had one week to use it.

One week to use a worthless token after 3 years as a good customer. I was so disgusted I deleted the Email and never used the token. My first reaction was to tell them to stick the token where the sun don't shine. But then what good would that do War Gaming don't give a F**k about you anyway.

 

By WG standards, that 3 year coupon is actually pretty generous, because it is 30% and unrestricted. So, none of the the usual crap about what you can and cannot use it on. I was lucky to get mine during summer sale, thus getting a pretty cheap Kii. But yeah, for the most part, these anniversary rewards are lackluster. But hey, 10 point captains that don't cost me 11 Euro or so.

[Seaman_Staines1]

2 minutes ago, Riselotte said:

By WG standards, that 3 year coupon is actually pretty generous, because it is 30% and unrestricted. So, none of the the usual crap about what you can and cannot use it on. I was lucky to get mine during summer sale, thus getting a pretty cheap Kii. But yeah, for the most part, these anniversary rewards are lackluster. But hey, 10 point captains that don't cost me 11 Euro or so.

Is the Kii any good.

[HaachamaShipping]

31 minutes ago, Scipio_Africanus1829 said:

Is the Kii any good.

Short answer, yes.

 

Long answer:

Spoiler

Kii is very similar to Amagi and Amagi is a very good ship. Obviously, if one didn't like the Amagi, one wouldn't necessarily like Kii. The Kii basically trades in some soft stats on the guns (guns mostly still are decent though) for very un-IJN-like AA and trades effective turtleback for a stronger belt. It also gets torps.

 

It mostly plays like Amagi, but has a bit more freedom against CVs, because you get basically two Kitakazes (the new T9 IJN DDs) installed on your ship as AA, with a long range AA of excellent Type 98 10 cm guns (best IJN AA gun in the game and on par with those of others) and your mid range is not just some silly 25 mm guns that are crap, but knock-off Bofors. With AA range mod and AFT, you get a 7.2 km aura where planes drop frequently and a further 5 km aura where they just fall out of the sky. Depending on what you are up against and how much you invest, you can range from thorny prospect to utterly untouchable to CVs.

 

The torps are... interesting. They aren't useful often. They are almost more useful just to get an idea of whether a target is moving forward or backward or not. Of course, when you find yourself in the not so great situation where they can be used, they are better than not having them, but Kii is not as good at brawling as Amagi. The torpedoes also aren't the knockout punch IJN cruiser torps can be if they get launched, because the damage isn't great and there's only 3 per side. Tirpitz is better for that.

 

The armour is the only other great difference. Amagi has more effective turtleback, Kii has a thicker belt. Amagi is unlikely to eat citadels at close range, Kii eats them alarmingly often if you show broadside, Kii is however slightly better off when angled and citadel pens would be unlikely anyway. Then her angled belt is stronger and while the belt still isn't good, it is far more likely to shatter shells that cannot get through its angled thickness if it doesn't autobounce. Both Amagi and Kii are very vulnerable to HE spam though, with Kii only being slightly better because its lower belt is not covered by torp belt that can be penned (which obviously means Kii eats more damage from torps).

 

Other than that, changes are very minor (like half a knot of speed slower) and if you don't show broadside too much and don't eat torps regularly, it doesn't feel that much more vulnerable. As a ship, it seems like a bit of a mess, but it really isn't bad. I chose it over the Tirpitz, because Kii is a more solid sidegrade to Amagi than Tirpitz is to Bismarck (hydro is more useful than torps and giving up also AA...). Obviously though, 45 Euro is a ton of money (but normal for a T8 BB), so I bought it when I could get it for 25 with summer sale and coupon.

 

[krazypenguin]

Some decent discounts for regular tech tree ships wouldn't hurt either...  got 3 tier 9s I need to buy. 

[Klopirat]

Vor 9 Stunden, Aragathor sagte:

Unless anything changes the 3rd anniversary collection will give out significantly less than the 2nd Anniversary collection, with not a single permanent item save the Flag. I'm disappointed but not surprised, as this follows the current trend of WG reducing rewards. If the crates with the collection items are as hard as some of last years achievements, then this will certainly lower the value of the collection even further.

 

I don't agree with your usual rant against WG, especially since it is based only on the PTS. While the collection itself might give less than the last one, it comes together with the special stuff in the arsenal and you have to consider "the whole bundle". Last year you had no choice what to get as a reward, you got the perma camos even if you could not use them. With the introduction of the arsenal the rewards can be much more flexible and you can chose what to get...

 

So imho we should wait until we see the announcement for the live server about how to get the containers, their content and the prices for the special stuff in the arsenal...

[Aragathor]

2 hours ago, Klopirat said:

 

I don't agree with your usual rant against WG, especially since it is based only on the PTS. While the collection itself might give less than the last one, it comes together with the special stuff in the arsenal and you have to consider "the whole bundle". Last year you had no choice what to get as a reward, you got the perma camos even if you could not use them. With the introduction of the arsenal the rewards can be much more flexible and you can chose what to get...

 

So imho we should wait until we see the announcement for the live server about how to get the containers, their content and the prices for the special stuff in the arsenal...

 

That's why I didn't just ignore the Arsenal section and also did not judge it. The collection itself gives out less than last year, and that's a fact. Whether the Arsenal offers are any good remains to be seen, as I clearly stated that the prices on the PTS are quite lower than they will be when the event goes live. Everyone will have to decide for themselves whether the "whole bundle" is worth it. That's why I didn't give any opinion beyond the comparison of the collections, and even then my disappointment was limited to the apparent drop of value between last year and this year.

 

Also, I fully agree with you on the Arsenal. It does give WG more flexibility and that's good.

 

PS: I also did not in any way discuss the fact that the two permanent camos can only be bought for yet another new resource called copper.

PPS: You can dislike my criticism of WG all you like, but they have been dropping the ball quite often recently and should be called out on that. Last year's anniversary event was great from my perspective and I am to this day surprised by how much unearned criticism went towards MrConway for designing it.

[Hades_warrior]

Why arctic camo for Edinburg 

I really hate that camo. Bright white crap.

[MrFingers]

10 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

Why arctic camo for Edinburg 

I really hate that camo. Bright white crap.

But it looks so beautiful and makes you blend in perfectly on Tears of the Desert...

[Hades_warrior]

35 minutes ago, MrFingers said:

But it looks so beautiful and makes you blend in perfectly on Tears of the Desert...

Its probably created for island hugers on Islands of Ice map.

[Karasu_Browarszky]

For some reason, I'm not that interested.

[Spunyarn]

7 hours ago, Hades_warrior said:

Why arctic camo for Edinburg 

 

Because HMS Edinburgh spent much of World War Two escorting the Arctic Convoys and it was during a return trip from the Soviet Union that she was sunk.

[Hades_warrior]

1 hour ago, Johmie said:

 

Because HMS Edinburgh spent much of World War Two escorting the Arctic Convoys and it was during a return trip from the Soviet Union that she was sunk.

History doesnt matter, at least not for WG. The point is that they could create something more...original, creative.

Who wanna spend money for a bit of snow on the ship. Normal perma camo for that ship is better option.

[hgbn_dk]

Just makes me wonder if this years celebration and rewards is pure karma for the complaining done last year? Which was in fact THE most generous.

[Hades_warrior]

How 'bout WG give us missions for super containers for each TX ship we own + special signals.

[hgbn_dk]

2 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

How 'bout WG give us missions for super containers for each TX ship we own + special signals.

Rule number one never complain about stuff you get for free.... Rule number 2 don't be green of envy if someone else get more than you...

[Aragathor]

1 minute ago, Hades_warrior said:

How 'bout WG give us missions for super containers for each TX ship we own + special signals.

I highly doubt it that we will get SCs and special signals this time around.

[Verblonde]

If WG wanted to be kind, they could give us the opportunity to complete last year's collection somehow as well (I started playing towards the end of if and didn't have time/ships/awareness to get it done - I think I have around a third to a half completed); I'm fully aware that the chances of this are realistically zero, but a chap can hope...

[Bellegar]

3 minutes ago, Verblonde said:

If WG wanted to be kind, they could give us the opportunity to complete last year's collection somehow as well (I started playing towards the end of if and didn't have time/ships/awareness to get it done - I think I have around a third to a half completed); I'm fully aware that the chances of this are realistically zero, but a chap can hope...

This would actually be a very good idea.

I've completed the thing, but an anniversary should be at it's core a celebration. And so it makes sense to give people the chance to complete some old collections (yes, I'm even stretching it beyond just last year's anniversary collection).