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A quick question on Capt skills for rented Ships for Clans

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HI,

I know there are some answers already around but I've not found a clear and simple one.

Example: If I take the Capt from a Chapaiev to a Moskva Tier X rented for Clan Battles:

- Can I reset for free the skills for using him with Moskva? Should be yes

- When Moskva will end its renting period, can I move the Capt back to Chapaiev with the new skills set up?

- If not, for what I understood, the Capt will be automatically put in Reserve with his skills as in Moskva, but then from Reserve to my Chapaiev what happens? Do I need to retrain him? Or it's free as for Premium ships go and come back?

- If the Capt is back to Chapaiev, can I reset for free his skills again?

 

Thank you for your clarification!

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23 minutes ago, RedAnark said:

HI,

I know there are some answers already around but I've not found a clear and simple one.

Example: If I take the Capt from a Chapaiev to a Moskva Tier X rented for Clan Battles:

- Can I reset for free the skills for using him with Moskva? Should be yes

- When Moskva will end its renting period, can I move the Capt back to Chapaiev with the new skills set up?

- If not, for what I understood, the Capt will be automatically put in Reserve with his skills as in Moskva, but then from Reserve to my Chapaiev what happens? Do I need to retrain him? Or it's free as for Premium ships go and come back?

- If the Capt is back to Chapaiev, can I reset for free his skills again?

 

Thank you for your clarification!

 

They work just like premium ships, you can put any captain from same country in them without retraining. Just try it.

 

The free reset for skills works ONLY 1 week before and 1 week after clanwar.

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18 minutes ago, 22cm said:

 

They work just like premium ships, you can put any captain from same country in them without retraining. Just try it.

 

The free reset for skills works ONLY 1 week before and 1 week after clanwar.

Thanks 22!

I did try  with Hindenburg but with a Capt I had in reserve with 10 skills from Scenario won. But now he's back on Reserve retaining the skills i settled up for Hindenburg. So I guess moving him to another ship will require training. Isn't?

 

Instead, if I take my Capt from Chapaiev, I can't reset his skills for free moving him to Moskva, correct?

 

I will be able to reset both Capt right after Clan Battles will end, by now. Correct?

 

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20 minutes ago, RedAnark said:

Thanks 22!

I did try  with Hindenburg but with a Capt I had in reserve with 10 skills from Scenario won. But now he's back on Reserve retaining the skills i settled up for Hindenburg. So I guess moving him to another ship will require training. Isn't?

 

Instead, if I take my Capt from Chapaiev, I can't reset his skills for free moving him to Moskva, correct?

 

I will be able to reset both Capt right after Clan Battles will end, by now. Correct?

 

You re making a cofusion in moving captains from a ship to another, whish is retraining, and resetting captain skills which is something else.

 

To move a captain to a premium ship or one of this rental ships, it needs no retraining (which normally costs 500 gold).

 

To reset the captain skills (the 19 points of skill, which costs 25 gold for a point) was available for free 1 week before clanwar and should be available again 1 week after clanwar.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, 22cm said:

You re making a cofusion in moving captains from a ship to another, whish is retraining, and resetting captain skills which is something else.

 

To move a captain to a premium ship or one of this rental ships, it needs no retraining (which normally costs 500 gold).

 

To reset the captain skills (the 19 points of skill, which costs 25 gold for a point) was available for free 1 week before clanwar and should be available again 1 week after clanwar.

 

 

 

 

No no, that's was clear, thank to you.

 

What it's still unclear, is what happen when the Moskva will end its renting time: will the Chapaiev Capt I moved to her, be back to Chapaiev or will be put in Retire?

If he will be back to Chapaiev automatically I guess no retraining, If he'll be put in Reserve, do I have to retrain him moving to Chapaiev?

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3 hours ago, RedAnark said:

What it's still unclear, is what happen when the Moskva will end its renting time: will the Chapaiev Capt I moved to her, be back to Chapaiev or will be put in Retire?

If he will be back to Chapaiev automatically I guess no retraining, If he'll be put in Reserve, do I have to retrain him moving to Chapaiev?

I don t know because I never used rental ships, have enough tier 10 ships.

Because each rental ship has a clock on it showing when it will disapear, on the last day just move it back to Chapayev so you don t have the surprise to have that captain retrained for the tier 1 of that line! :Smile_teethhappy:

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6 hours ago, RedAnark said:

No no, that's was clear, thank to you.

 

What it's still unclear, is what happen when the Moskva will end its renting time: will the Chapaiev Capt I moved to her, be back to Chapaiev or will be put in Retire?

If he will be back to Chapaiev automatically I guess no retraining, If he'll be put in Reserve, do I have to retrain him moving to Chapaiev?

 

The rental ships behave as if they were Premium ships.

 

You have a Chapayev Captain - Lets say 14 points at the moment.

You put the Chapayev Captain on the rental Moskva and play some games, he doesn't require any retraining to move to the Moskva and his assigned ship STAYS as the Chapayev.

Say your clan decides to stop playing Clan Wars for the evening you can then put your Captain back on Chapayev (which he's still trained for) and play him without any retaining penalties. You can do this as many times as you like just as it is with any Premium ship.

 

By your posts I guess you never move Captains to new ships as you move up the silver lines and possibly have no Premium ships. For example I have a Captain that is assigned to Donskoi, I swap him to Kutuzov, Makarov, Molotov and Varyag all of which are Premiums, but his specialisation is still Donskoi. I can move him to any of those ships (or the Rental Moskva if I wanted to) as many times as I like with no cost, no penalty and no retraining.

 

If the rentals work like they did the previous seasons, if you have a Captain on a rental when that rental is removed then he will be sent to reserve with his ship specialisation still on the ship he originally came from (in your case the Chapayev), but his skill points will be re-assigned for free so you can re-spend them. I do not know if this is the case this season.

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17 hours ago, BeauNidl3 said:

 

The rental ships behave as if they were Premium ships.

 

You have a Chapayev Captain - Lets say 14 points at the moment.

You put the Chapayev Captain on the rental Moskva and play some games, he doesn't require any retraining to move to the Moskva and his assigned ship STAYS as the Chapayev.

Say your clan decides to stop playing Clan Wars for the evening you can then put your Captain back on Chapayev (which he's still trained for) and play him without any retaining penalties. You can do this as many times as you like just as it is with any Premium ship.

 

By your posts I guess you never move Captains to new ships as you move up the silver lines and possibly have no Premium ships. For example I have a Captain that is assigned to Donskoi, I swap him to Kutuzov, Makarov, Molotov and Varyag all of which are Premiums, but his specialisation is still Donskoi. I can move him to any of those ships (or the Rental Moskva if I wanted to) as many times as I like with no cost, no penalty and no retraining.

 

If the rentals work like they did the previous seasons, if you have a Captain on a rental when that rental is removed then he will be sent to reserve with his ship specialisation still on the ship he originally came from (in your case the Chapayev), but his skill points will be re-assigned for free so you can re-spend them. I do not know if this is the case this season.

Thanks!

Great detailed explanation and I tested it with different Capt from russian cruisers: so I ca n move between Moskva and any russian ship the skilled Capt and when finished at 23 time, I'll move back to their original ships to keep using them for randoms!

 

As you seem more informed on the issue:

if I move more Capts from russian cruisers to Moskva, only the last one moved in when the rental Moskva will expire, will get the advantage of free skill reset?

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According to Clan Season 3 page, only the first week of the Clans you can reset for free the Capt you use.

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/clan-vs-clan-season-3/

 

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So can someone post something from WG that ensure I can reset again same Capt skills a week after Clans end?

I'd like to be sure I can re set my Captains to their original set up on normal ships.

 

Thank you!!

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11 hours ago, RedAnark said:

According to Clan Season 3 page, only the first week of the Clans you can reset for free the Capt you use.

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/common/clan-vs-clan-season-3/

 

2018-07-30_00h35_32.thumb.jpg.f974a460333dd43a3c710eb3840c567f.jpg

 

So can someone post something from WG that ensure I can reset again same Capt skills a week after Clans end?

I'd like to be sure I can re set my Captains to their original set up on normal ships.

 

Thank you!!

I don't have any source for that, But I have experience.

but It was like that at the last season.

I don't know about the first season but 1 week after the previous season,

I was able to reset all my captain skills free..

I don't expect them to change it.

 

People usually spec their Desmo Captains for AA.. or their GK captains for Secondaries.

Since no need for AA in CB and very less need for Secondaries,

people change theirs builds in those ships for example. and they need to change them back after the CB season ends..

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Clans are over, but I do not see a free option to reset Capts used in Clans... Any info about it?

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On 30.7.2018 at 12:31 PM, Excavatus said:

people change theirs builds in those ships for example. and they need to change them back after the CB season ends..

And it is even worse with the rental ships.

Players using rental ships effectively need to respec commanders in the middle of CB season. I did not know which ships would be available at a given time and how the clan felt about using a specific rental ship. Resetting potentially 9 commanders for 3 x 3 ships means you loose a lot of your captains for random battles, very likely those for lines you do good in and are actively grinding at that time. Still you would have to do that respec at the start of the season, not knowing if all the commanders are even used in CB, also not too experienced with the proper CB skill sets of each ship. So I had to reset a captain in the middle of CB to be at least somewhat competitive and that cost doubloons. That captain was skilled for a different class and can definitely not go back to work in his current skill set. The premium status of rental ship does not touch that.

 

I think a free respec with the start of each rental period and at the end of the season would be a better way.

It is not like people get more free lunch here cause, let's face it, even if it is for free a few times within a month, you will not respec captains just for the sake of doing so. You maybe change them twice in that entire season, if you respec them for CB and back for randoms and once for other captains that you built badly and that's it.

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On 22/08/2018 at 3:09 AM, RedAnark said:

Clans are over, but I do not see a free option to reset Capts used in Clans... Any info about it?

It should have been / already started with the ranked season on friday,

and I think you already know that :)

On 22/08/2018 at 3:46 AM, HMS_Kilinowski said:

And it is even worse with the rental ships.

Players using rental ships effectively need to respec commanders in the middle of CB season. I did not know which ships would be available at a given time and how the clan felt about using a specific rental ship. Resetting potentially 9 commanders for 3 x 3 ships means you loose a lot of your captains for random battles, very likely those for lines you do good in and are actively grinding at that time. Still you would have to do that respec at the start of the season, not knowing if all the commanders are even used in CB, also not too experienced with the proper CB skill sets of each ship. So I had to reset a captain in the middle of CB to be at least somewhat competitive and that cost doubloons. That captain was skilled for a different class and can definitely not go back to work in his current skill set. The premium status of rental ship does not touch that.

 

I think a free respec with the start of each rental period and at the end of the season would be a better way.

It is not like people get more free lunch here cause, let's face it, even if it is for free a few times within a month, you will not respec captains just for the sake of doing so. You maybe change them twice in that entire season, if you respec them for CB and back for randoms and once for other captains that you built badly and that's it.

You are right.

Respeccing captains for CB is not enough for 1 week If you ask me.

Not only for those who use rental ships but for the others as well.

 

I think anyone who participate at least 1 CB should have the chance to respec captains for free..

They even can make it weekly. Like you join a CB and respec captains free every week.

 

And must be the same with Ranked.

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There is free respec NOW in effect. You can also transfer captain from ship to another and retrain for that ship with 50% discount.(250 gold)

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