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Hi WG & All.

 

I just witnessed a BOT ship get an award how is this if they are governed by the game mechanics AI and sail around seemingly OP.

 

No bot ship should get an award other than helping human players win their awards and you dev's at WG say you were dealing with players getting awards for doing nothing, giving bots awards do not help.

 

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Ok, I'll take the bait.

 

What do you mean by award? An ingame achievement like Die-hard or Dreadnought?

 

Either way, why do you care what bots get?

 

And in case you are serious: do you mean an actual bot (from Coop/OP) or a player you call a bot for whatever reason?

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7 minutes ago, Jessa_Doom said:

No bot ship should get an award other than helping human players win their awards

If bot does better job than human then it deserves that award.

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2 minutes ago, Tungstonid said:
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Ok, I'll take the bait.

What do you mean by award? An ingame achievement like Die-hard or Dreadnought?

Detonation?

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since when do u get rewards in coop? im pretty sure u cant get achievements in games with bots....(operations has different achievements anyway)

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7 minutes ago, PaxMaggie said:

since when do u get rewards in coop? im pretty sure u cant get achievements in games with bots....(operations has different achievements anyway)

In Operations though, we don't see what bots get at end of battle. So, dunno how that bot earned anything...

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57 minutes ago, Riselotte said:

In Operations though, we don't see what bots get at end of battle. So, dunno how that bot earned anything...

 

Some are announced during play, and bots can get those, like Natural Selection.

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1 minute ago, AgarwaenME said:

 

Some are announced during play, and bots can get those, like Natural Selection.

If any bot can get Natural Selection, that's pretty much a mission failed and that bot getting awards should be the least of one's issues.

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CAN the Beasts of the sea elaborate?

i certainly have never seen a achievement on the Bots. :Smile_hiding::cap_haloween:

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2 minutes ago, Riselotte said:

If any bot can get Natural Selection, that's pretty much a mission failed and that bot getting awards should be the least of one's issues.

 

Nah, had a quite successfull Aegis op where the Akulov just happened to get 4 finishing shots on enemy cruisers. 

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This is literally the MOST STUPID complaint I've read in my 3 and a half years in this game.

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2 hours ago, Jessa_Doom said:

Hi WG & All.

 

I just witnessed a BOT ship get an award how is this if they are governed by the game mechanics AI and sail around seemingly OP.

 

No bot ship should get an award other than helping human players win their awards and you dev's at WG say you were dealing with players getting awards for doing nothing, giving bots awards do not help.

 

I had to read this a few times over.....mental :Smile_teethhappy:

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45 minutes ago, lameoll said:

CAN the Beasts of the sea elaborate?

i certainly have never seen a achievement on the Bots. :Smile_hiding::cap_haloween:

We do have some very good quality players in B.O.T.S, some of whom I have no doubt, on occasion, perhaps, might get an award, or several :)

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Well, I remember someone commenting about complimenting a bot once due to habit (I think he said he uses to compliment any player above 600 base XP or so in coop, but didn't notice at first that it was a bot) and I replied that the bot probably deserved it. There's also that CC that, during the time when the training room was hidden, used to make weird matchmakings with bots and had a particularly cherished one. So, a bot winning an award, why not? I'm quite sure a few of them would have been awarded more Krakens than the majority of purple players if their deeds had been recorded since the beginning.

 

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1 hour ago, JapLance said:

This is literally the MOST STUPID complaint I've read in my 3 and a half years in this game.

Just look at his posting history, everything there is like this

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Bots don't actually get or do anything with rewards since they're wiped from the server once the battle ends, and nobody is watching the game and 'giving' them out, it's just a text popup that triggers under certain circumstances and wasn't coded out for bots.

 

Just think about it. You're humanising bots in your perception of them when that's not at all how they work or what they are.

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3 minutes ago, StringWitch said:

Bots don't actually get or do anything with rewards since they're wiped from the server once the battle ends, and nobody is watching the game and 'giving' them out, it's just a text popup that triggers under certain circumstances and wasn't coded out for bots.

 

Just think about it. You're humanising bots in your perception of them when that's not at all how they work or what they are.

Maybe OP is intimidated by bots and takes them as serious competition, hence this enemy image forms. :cap_hmm:

 

And no, I don't mean the clan here. :Smile_hiding:

 

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For experimental purposes WG should create a clan full of bots and let them loose on randoms. See what stats they get.

I'd pay to see the results.

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3 hours ago, Riselotte said:

If any bot can get Natural Selection, that's pretty much a mission failed and that bot getting awards should be the least of one's issues.

 

We (SCRUBS) actually had an Op once where a bot got Natural Selection .. I'll have to look for the sceenshot though 

 

in case you're wondering .. it still was a 5 star victory iirc .. true Scrub way :cap_haloween:

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I wish I could give waifubots compliments after they outscore my team or even myself.

 

This might evolve into some form of machine learning, see - bot gets complimented -> gameplay analysis -> other waifubots try to copy succesful behaviour -> better waifubots.

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6 hours ago, Profilus said:

If bot does better job than human then it deserves that award.

 

Seeing that in almost all "shooting" games the AI is dumbed down... It is not that hard to be "better" than you humans.

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2 hours ago, StringWitch said:

 

Just think about it. You're humanising bots in your perception of them when that's not at all how they work or what they are.

 

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2 hours ago, StringWitch said:

You're humanising bots in your perception of them when that's not at all how they work or what they are.

It's called the pathetic fallacy, and it can be argued that such a quest for humanizing things is a by-product of our behaviour as a social (some would say just tribal) species. You can relate better to something extraneous by attaching to it part of your own set of values, conducts and attitudes. Pet owners do it a lot, for example.

 

There also the fact that WoWS bots still haven't reached a level of "intelligence" that puts them in the uncanny valley, so there's margin for some empathy. Things will be different by the time they swear, curse and brag in chat.

 

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