Summer Sale 2018: finished

[Yogibjoern]

Some people would still complain even if they were handed over €1.000.000 in cash... Its to heavy to carry bla bla

[xenopathia]

50 minutes ago, Uglesett said:

Except these aren't actually two competing target groups... it's not as if sales to one of them is going to impact sales to the other.

True,

I was trying to generalize the majority with a tiny bit of sarcasm.

The main point is that WG is ignoring a group(including myself) who would've spent if they hadn't changed  the "full doubloon compensation" policy.

 

 

An insight for WG:  

I already have +30 premiums. (Not interested in anymore ships)

I already have grinded most of the lines.

I can live without premium time

The only thing I would like to have is some T10 camos. (with 50% discount ofc)

So from now on there is no way I am going to spend for any WG product. 

[Vlad_Vado]

4 hours ago, Freyr_90 said:

I am sooooo tempted to get it, but it's not one of my planned T8 (Eugen and Kidd) 

I lack a T8 DD and wanted the Kidd, but this is also very good, isn't it? 

 

Benson C Hull with best Hydro at it's tier. In overall, Lo Yang is better DD than Kidd because of best Hydro at it's Tier and also has 10 torps instead the 5. Kidd has one more gun and heal. So it all depends on your playstile.

 

If you are planning to go through PA DD line, then it's a no brainer. 

[IsoA]

3 hours ago, Uglesett said:

Eeeeeh. Yeah, it's an interesting and probably quite good boat but... I have the German DD line for hydro bullying other DDs. Maybe if it was 50% I'd have picked it up.

That's just silly. Not a single time has a tier 8 premium been sold for -50%. -30% is as good as it gets.

[Uglesett]

Just now, IsoA said:

That's just silly. Not a single time has a tier 8 premium been sold for -50%. -30% is as good as it gets.

So what? I still wouldn't pick it up at less than 50% off.

[IsoA]

1 minute ago, Uglesett said:

So what? I still wouldn't pick it up at less than 50% off.

Then I guess you will never pick it up. Your choice, certainly.

[Uglesett]

1 hour ago, VC381 said:

The sales format is standard marketing strategy. They're making money by aiming at people who would probably never buy these ships full price, so they're getting something when they would have got nothing.

But you can use the same argument for people wanting to get the full doubloon value for discounted ships as well. If someone normally doesn't buy doubloons, but would buy ships at a 50% discount for the doubloon value, WG are getting something when they would have gotten nothing.

[Gobbernator]

14 minutes ago, IsoA said:

That's just silly. Not a single time has a tier 8 premium been sold for -50%. -30% is as good as it gets.

*Not a single time has a tier 8 premium been sold for -50% on the EU side of WOWS. 

 

US forums

[IsoA]

4 minutes ago, Gobbernator said:

*Not a single time has a tier 8 premium been sold for -50% on the EU side of WOWS. 

 

US forums

3rd party site, soo... doesn't fully compare. Good sales, though, and apparently they were legit.

[FearsomeFlotsam]

On 7/16/2018 at 6:32 AM, Exocet6951 said:

Oh boy, can't wait for the last day and its -30% on Derpitz _{(caliing it now)}
That's going to be a fun week when playing T6 and up.

The stats on Tirpitz are absymal - bottom of the pack in winrate and damage for T8 battleships. Is it really that bad?

[HaachamaShipping]

Just now, DangerousDave2k said:

The stats on Tirpitz are absymal - bottom of the pack in winrate and damage for T8 battleships. Is it really that bad?

No, but Bismarck is one of the most played ships and Tirpitz likely the most played T8 premium, so it is the archetypical T8 premium every noob with less than 500 games bought to not bother with grind, to then be in a gimped Bismarck vs T10.

 

By itself, the ship is practically a Bismarck with torps instead of hydro (I prefer the hydro. Way more useful), less AA, but I think slightly better firing angles. Still not great though. 

[Klopirat]

Vor 1 Minute, DangerousDave2k sagte:

Is it really that bad?

I'd guess the reason is that the Tirpitz is a rather "iconic" ship and bought (and used) by many players who have no/little experience with that tier...

[VC381]

18 minutes ago, Uglesett said:

But you can use the same argument for people wanting to get the full doubloon value for discounted ships as well. If someone normally doesn't buy doubloons, but would buy ships at a 50% discount for the doubloon value, WG are getting something when they would have gotten nothing.

Perhaps, but I'm sure they have solid reasons for not wanting to give doubloon discounts by the back door. It's understandable they want to control what is or isn't on sale more strictly. The upside is they can sell premium ships at larger discounts potentially than they would otherwise want to discount doubloons. I think whining about this business decision comes across a little entitled.

2 minutes ago, DangerousDave2k said:

The stats on Tirpitz are absymal - bottom of the pack in winrate and damage for T8 battleships. Is it really that bad?

No, it's actually a pretty good ship, but the historical reputation coupled with the fact it's premium means it's largely played by complete newbies who bought in to T8 after just starting the game.

[xenopathia]

An explanation for the WG fanboys that are counter-reacting to complaints due to WG policy change:

 

1-Before the policy change:  it was possible to get doubloons for 50% less.

2-Now it is not.

3-Some share their complaints here.

 

I hope this is clear. If not, please read the above statement slowly, 3 times.

If still not pls pm me and I will try my best effort to make it even clearer.

 

[Klopirat]

Vor 15 Minuten, xenopathia sagte:

it was possible to get doubloons for 50% less.

by using an exploit...this exploit was tolerated at the beginning and now removed after to much "abuse"...

 

Zitat

I hope this is clear. If not, please read the above statement slowly, 3 times.

 

[FearsomeFlotsam]

Anyone think there any chance of a premium time sale amongst all this, or just ships?

[xenopathia]

9 minutes ago, Klopirat said:

by using an exploit...this exploit was tolerated at the beginning and now removed after to much "abuse"...

Ok you have a tendency to post nonsense.

But still I will reply.

First of all.

abuse

verb

 

əˈbjuːz/

1. 1.

   use (something) to bad effect or for a bad purpose; misuse.

   "the judge abused his power by imposing the fines"

   synonyms:

   misuse, misapply, misemploy, mishandle; More

   •  

      
2. 2.

   treat with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly.

   "riders who abuse their horses should be prosecuted"

   synonyms:

   mistreat, maltreat, ill-treat, treat badly, ill-use

    

    

So if you can, please reply: What is being used for a  bad purpose? 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Klopirat said:

by using an exploit.

exploit??

XD

you are too innocent for these types of discussions mate.

 

 

edit:

and please take a deep breath and read this slowly, 3 times.

24 minutes ago, xenopathia said:

1-Before the policy change:  it was possible to get doubloons for 50% less.

2-Now it is not.

3-Some share their complaints here.

[Hades_warrior]

5 hours ago, TerTerro said:

Still, it's a summer sale, why not give us better discount.

What you need? 70-90% discounts?

This is not a walmart on black friday.

[ColonelPete]

Bad effect - WG getting less money

[TerTerro]

44 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

What you need? 70-90% discounts?

This is not a walmart on black friday.

50% on all ships.

And why it's bad to want more discount?

Maybe you want to buy for full price?

[Uglesett]

48 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

What you need? 70-90% discounts?

Well, from my point of view pretty much all of the premiums in this game are about 120-150% overpriced, so sure.

[Verblonde]

I'm quite relaxed about all this: I probably shouldn't spend much more on this game than I have already - closing the 'cheap doubloons' loophole means I'll spend less money. Simple.

 

WG presumably calculate that they will net more money overall this way; whilst I can't speak for others, in my case they won't: if doubloons are relatively cheap, I'll say "f*ck it" and buy some for lazy free-xping etc. When they're at full (over)price, I tend to be a lot more disciplined, and spend less money overall.

 

Still, if you don't have Loyang yet, it's a bloody good ship, and 30% off is as good as it gets (that I've seen)...

[xenopathia]

Just now, Verblonde said:

I'm quite relaxed about all this: I probably shouldn't spend much more on this game than I have already - closing the 'cheap doubloons' loophole means I'll spend less money. Simple.

Infact I owe a HUGE  thanks to WG for not taking my money. 

[Uglesett]

Just now, Verblonde said:

I'm quite relaxed about all this: I probably shouldn't spend much more on this game than I have already - closing the 'cheap doubloons' loophole means I'll spend less money. Simple.

 

WG presumably calculate that they will net more money overall this way; whilst I can't speak for others, in my case they won't: if doubloons are relatively cheap, I'll say "f*ck it" and buy some for lazy free-xping etc. When they're at full (over)price, I tend to be a lot more disciplined, and spend less money overall.

This.

 

Also... I don't really have that much faith in most companies' market analyses. Sure, they may have made some very nice spreadsheets telling them what's the optimal price point that the market will bear and net them the most profit, but market analyses tend to depend on a lot of assumptions that just aren't necessarily correct. So saying that "they've obviously done the maths" isn't that strong an argument. If there's one thing we should learn just from the last decade of history it is that economists tend to be wrong.

[Verblonde]

6 minutes ago, Uglesett said:

 

Also... I don't really have that much faith in most companies' market analyses. Sure, they may have made some very nice spreadsheets telling them what's the optimal price point that the market will bear and net them the most profit, but market analyses tend to depend on a lot of assumptions that just aren't necessarily correct. So saying that "they've obviously done the maths" isn't that strong an argument. If there's one thing we should learn just from the last decade of history it is that economists tend to be wrong.

This is part of what I do for a living; if you're any good at it, one of the key lessons to learn is "you may very well be wrong"...!