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Hey friends,

 

Sittin infront of my ⛺ on beautifull island of Cres (big regards to my Croatian friends) sippin cold beer, havin wife took our kids to the beach im feelin shopping frenzy.

 

So as a DD freak im lookin at Kidd and Lo Yang and cant decide. Can some friendly soul owing both help me decide? Im leaning towards Lo Yang for sole purpose of havin a PA trainer (currently at Mada Faka).

 

Anyways... wish all of you (specially all the SCRUBS) good luck and fare seas!

 

Regards, no9.

 

 

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KIDD fears no tier VIII DDs in knife fight even some tier IXs and Xs, Lo Yang with that sonar range is the king of cap contesting at same tier. Both are bullies, have them and I would say get both but... Idk KIDD is more gunboat than Lo Yang imo but with Lo Yang I don't even fear to contest caps even against tier X dds (except Z-52 ofc). 

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lo yang

 

for going through ranked like it's nothing

 

 

And I never liked kidd that much myself. Too little power against capital ships.

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Ill think it over ;))))

 

 

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Dont have the Kidd (still hoping for Christmas Container Next Year) but Lo  Yang. I love this Ship. Only Ship Training Captains for Pan Asians, very good Cap Contester and usable Torps, even when the Damage is not so high in them. 

 

Which Ship to prefer  maybe depends on how you play.  Solo or without CV in Divi? Maybe Lo Yang. Often in Divi with T8 CV? Then maybe Kidd. 

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Lo yang is a bit more defensive cap constester, imho with pathetic firepower and torps.

Kidd is unparalelled in open close combat knife fight because of survivability.

Matter of taste, both DDs are great.

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Not a DD player and don't have a YoYang so take this with a massive pince of salt, but I do have the KIDD.

 

And i love it.  Twice i've came across a YoYang and both times i've bashed it's brains out, one trying to use his hydro to get the upper hand, didn't work quite as he planed.  It's a blunt instrument, the YoYang seems to be a surgeons knife.

 

All my DD player Clan mates love the YoYang and it's strong in ranked.

 

So I think an out and out DD player will do better in the YoYang alot more.  KIDD is more user friendly, if i can get good results out of it anyone can.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Both are great. Of the two i only have the Kidd and its always fun to play. Lo Yang seems better for ranked though. (Not that im ever going to play ranked ever again) But its a hard pick man. Enjoy ur trip and have a beer for me. LYLT. 

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I have to add that if you ever want to troll CV players, full AA spec Kidd is super hillarious :cap_rambo:

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got em both and love em both but I feel slightly more multi role with the Loyang than the kidd

 

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You can still win Kidd mission in USA container, I have no one, but played against both many times and both are dangerous borderline OP DDs but IMHO LOLyang deserves more respect in enemy team plus will train PA captains and is very good in ranked if it is of any value for you.

 

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I don't have Kidd, but...

 

I believe last ranked season Loyang had the lowest average damage of any ship, yet I am not sure it isn't OP in ranked.  What Loyang does it does well.

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2 hours ago, nambr9 said:

Hey friends,

 

Sittin infront of my ⛺ on beautifull island of Cres (big regards to my Croatian friends) sippin cold beer, havin wife took our kids to the beach im feelin shopping frenzy.

 

So as a DD freak im lookin at Kidd and Lo Yang and cant decide. Can some friendly soul owing both help me decide? Im leaning towards Lo Yang for sole purpose of havin a PA trainer (currently at Mada Faka).

 

Anyways... wish all of you (specially all the SCRUBS) good luck and fare seas!

 

Regards, no9.

 

 

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ooo on Cres you are.

 

you need only 3 words to communicate with locals on cress

 

KURAC

PIČKA

DINAMO

 

and you can not go wrong :)

 

and answer is Lo....it is better ship for its role. i think his hydro and 5 more torps are better advantage than heal and 1 gun more

 

but it is close call

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Lo Yang for cap contesting and general DD play.

Kidd to take a crap on CVs (I recommend BFT + AFT + Man AA :cap_haloween:)

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LoYang can do well in any situation against any tier, except standard battle where you are forced to rely on your long range torps. I often use the short range torps because the 9.2km ones are so pathetic.  The short range torps go well with the ambush nature of this ship. Just sailing into cap offensively trying to use your tools will get you radared and killed. It needs to set up in a good spot. That's why standard battle sucks.

 

I don't rate the AA ability of Kidd as important, unless you division with a CV. Other than that it strikes me as a boat that relies heavily on the guns and in todays meta with USN arcs, you will have a hard time accumulating damage. You're basically a gunboat without the strengths of the Russian line. Maybe it's me but most Kidd players I see get wrecked without contributing much. LoYang is always dangerous to see on the enemy team.

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I have both, always enjoy the LoYang more. People expect so much from the Kidd, but I enjoy the LoYang more, and I play to enjoy myself.

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3 hours ago, nambr9 said:

Hey friends,

 

Sittin infront of my ⛺ on beautifull island of Cres (big regards to my Croatian friends) sippin cold beer, havin wife took our kids to the beach im feelin shopping frenzy.

 

So as a DD freak im lookin at Kidd and Lo Yang and cant decide. Can some friendly soul owing both help me decide? Im leaning towards Lo Yang for sole purpose of havin a PA trainer (currently at Mada Faka).

 

Anyways... wish all of you (specially all the SCRUBS) good luck and fare seas!

 

Regards, no9.

 

 

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Enjoy your vaccation mate :Smile_honoring:Take a cold one for me. My vote goes to the Kidd :) Awesome little ship. A truly evil destroyer :cap_rambo:

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I don't have either of those, and I don't know your play style, skill level etc. 

 

That being said, they are both quite strong. Personally I would go for the Kidd since she isn't countered as hard by radar and is capable of defending herself against both carriers and dds. 

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I also have both Lo Yang and Kidd, have had Lo Yang for a long time and Kidd since Christmas - at first never liked DD's so the Lo Yang did not get much play, tried Kidd in ranked last season and did not like the performance.  Currently both mothballed whilst I work my way through the remainder of the DD's, of all the premium DD's I much prefer the Asashio 

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A somewhat tuberous perspective: I have both, and like both, but they are very different.

 

Loyang is glorious in Ranked, although its impact has lessened a bit lately, as everyone knows about her now. That said, the combination of fierce hydro and creeping smoke is still very powerful, especially if you're running the 'magic hydro' upgrade. Radar is another 'but' with Loyang - there's lots of it about at the moment, and it largely renders your key weapons a bit moot whilst it's active. You also have two torp choices, which is nice.

 

Kidd is pretty good, and her survivability is ridiculous for a DD - I got my first ever Dreadnought thingy playing Kidd (in Ranked)! As (I think) the reviews tend to say, Kidd does rather depend on your team's ability to capitalise on things that you spot etc, as her reduced torps etc. lower her potential raw damage output on her own. As others have said, the insane AA is magnificent if you happen to run into a CV, but that doesn't happen very often.

 

I'm still trying to adjust to the big spike in T10 ships that you seem to get at the moment playing T8 (presumably, due to people grinding the new heroic upgrades, or whatever they're called); I suspect that Loyang may be slightly better in this context, but better players may well disagree (Kidd's healing potion is really nice, provided the damage you take is healable)...

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4 hours ago, nambr9 said:

Hey friends,

 

Sittin infront of my ⛺ on beautifull island of Cres (big regards to my Croatian friends) sippin cold beer, havin wife took our kids to the beach im feelin shopping frenzy.

 

So as a DD freak im lookin at Kidd and Lo Yang and cant decide. Can some friendly soul owing both help me decide? Im leaning towards Lo Yang for sole purpose of havin a PA trainer (currently at Mada Faka).

 

Anyways... wish all of you (specially all the SCRUBS) good luck and fare seas!

 

Regards, no9.

 

 

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yo nambr9, have one on german humor as well ;D....

 

both are really good in their role, while kidd can provide dakkadakka like i not experienced on a dd before (yep, owning khaba). on it's tier with the heal it's a damn good trollboat and dishes out quite nice dmg. lo yang is THE cap contester on it's tier, taking only dd's into account.

imo it's the choice between hydro benson and heal fletcher..... fletcher.... FLETCHER........ O N    T  8   ............ #nuffsaid  :Smile_izmena::Smile_glasses:

 

< luvs fletcher :Smile_medal:

 

seriously: get em both, as it more is a matter of taste and style i think. both are good and hard to compare, as different styles (well: fletcher only got max 2 "similar" comrads, lo yang half a line kameraden :Smile_smile::Smile_trollface:)

 

 

p.s.: and while u make holidays in paradise i'm about to place my belly right into one line with a whole bunch of proud german gardeners :Smile_amazed::Smile_veryhappy::Smile_sceptic::Smile_sad:  NJOYYYY :Smile_great::Smile_Default::Smile_honoring:

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I have neither, but having faced both and heard from others, they are both great ships and very decent. As others said, Kidd is more dangerous in the open, Loyang dominates caps. Personally, I'd likely opt for the Kidd, because outside the smoke/hydro combo Loyang loses quite a bit of its strength (being basically a worse Benson), but that doesn't mean it is any bad (still respectable fire power and while torps are slow and not much damage, still a decent utility).

 

Have fun at the Croation beaches. I was there years ago, it's quite beautiful. Apart from beer, would recommend the liquor too though.

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Currently both mothballed whilst I work my way through the remainder of the DD's, of all the premium DD's I much prefer the Asashio 

Not up for sale, but even if it was, I'd say Kidd/Loyang any day. Loyang and Kidd are actually competitive ships in Randoms and Ranked with a high skill ceiling and strengths that are versatile. Neither has a glaring weakness or hard counter that is able to just crap on them. Meanwhile Asashio is just a derp boat that is basically a Kagero for people who find it too hard to torp anything with normal torps, so they give up the utility of being able to harm DDs or cruisers ("can't hit them anyway, duh") to be able to get more of a chance to hit BBs (despite straightlining BBs getting deleted by Kagero as well, while dodging BBs get deleted by neither). And I guess those who cannot be bothered to play Pan-Asia for the better torpedoes. The likely only thing the Asashio does better than a Kagero is to throw area denial torpedoes in random directions and hitting something maybe half a minute to a minute later. Heck, even the TRB is just there for the stupid, because in a regular IJN DD, it not only allows to spread torps out to account for potential evasive maneuvers, but it also allows to just flood an area with torps to make it harder for DDs or cruisers to dodge. On the Asashio, it's meanwhile just there to punish the occasional BB blob, but otherwise for people that cannot predict and have to flood the area against BBs, the most easily hitable class in the entire game.

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I feel @Riselotte may be being a *little* harsh on Asashio, but I would absolutely agree that both Kidd and Loyang are far better choices if you want to play a rounded DD, and not something very specialised.

(Yes, I know I have more games in Asashio than Kidd and Loyang combined, but I'm a bad person and like nuking BBs now and again)

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1 minute ago, Verblonde said:

I feel @Riselotte may be being a *little* harsh on Asashio, but I would absolutely agree that both Kidd and Loyang are far better choices if you want to play a rounded DD, and not something very specialised.

(Yes, I know I have more games in Asashio than Kidd and Loyang combined, but I'm a bad person and like nuking BBs now and again)

I likely went a bit too far into detail on the Asashio, but it annoys me to no end to see people trying to argue that the ship is anywhere near the same league as Kidd or Loyang. Like the folks who call the GZ OP, despite being worse than the other CVs. And due to their crippling overspecialisation, people who get better results in those than with their normal ships feel like they somehow are actually good at this game.

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