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Ladies & Gentlemen, Dallas the ghost ship, better than a DD!!

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I know it's a long debate here, some have seen these ghost ships in a battle, others in their dreams, few have met one face to face!

And sorry, but I'm one of those! :Smile_medal:

 

Here is the story of the new US heavy ghost light cruiser Dallas ( strange coincidence maybe have something to do with the assassination of JFK... who knows...) made for C.I.A for covered missions...:Smile_hiding:

 

OK, I know you can't wait for proofs, it's always a question of proofs, but I have them! Don't worry!

To excuse WG for this mistake that could change the result of Battles, I must say that it happened already with other new Cruiser lines. As far as I remember I met another case with a Galissonnière when it was just released. So, it could happen, algorithms are human made... by now.... So I hope next patch they'll fix it!!:Smile_glasses:

 

So here the screen shot from the replay:  Dallas was able to come in open water and still be hidden for 3 to 5 sec and for 1 km or more at a very far distance from my Fiji of 1.9 km...!:Smile_teethhappy:

 

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So the answer is yes, disappearing ships exist but 99% are a software mistakes that can be corrected. See ya!

 

P.S.

The effect of the second shot of the Dallas half transparent is due to the slow motion play I used to get the shots

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I'm not sure I follow your complaint; it looks like you are the only player left on your team so nobody else could spot that Dallas, and as you are in smoke you couldn't see the enemy ship until it got within the proximity spotting range of 2km.

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Ships not being spotted through your smoke is nothing new, right? And then comes the render time of ships that can take a few seconds.

 

The real questions are: How can you have only 16k damage after a 17 minutes game and how did you get 3 kills with that damage? And why was your hydro not running? That would have spotted the Dallas way earlier. :cap_hmm:

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3 hours ago, RedAnark said:

I know it's a long debate here, some have seen these ghost ships in a battle, others in their dreams, few have met one face to face!

And sorry, but I'm one of those! :Smile_medal:

 

Here is the story of the new US heavy ghost light cruiser Dallas ( strange coincidence maybe have something to do with the assassination of JFK... who knows...) made for C.I.A for covered missions...:Smile_hiding:

 

OK, I know you can't wait for proofs, it's always a question of proofs, but I have them! Don't worry!

To excuse WG for this mistake that could change the result of Battles, I must say that it happened already with other new Cruiser lines. As far as I remember I met another case with a Galissonnière when it was just released. So, it could happen, algorithms are human made... by now.... So I hope next patch they'll fix it!!:Smile_glasses:

 

So here the screen shot from the replay:  Dallas was able to come in open water and still be hidden for 3 to 5 sec and for 1 km or more at a very far distance from my Fiji of 1.9 km...!:Smile_teethhappy:

 

2018-07-03_02h31_23.thumb.jpg.292e343dbf538424e71afaed984ed2a9.jpg

 

2018-07-03_02h31_25.thumb.jpg.0d08aa36ff934be3e86fb61937fe42f5.jpg

 

2018-07-03_02h31_27.thumb.jpg.f9affabee6348d601f3caaf8d5bd38a9.jpg

 

So the answer is yes, disappearing ships exist but 99% are a software mistakes that can be corrected. See ya!

 

P.S.

The effect of the second shot of the Dallas half transparent is due to the slow motion play I used to get the shots

 

I'm afraid that there's a good chance that what you show isn't a software error at all, but rather your lack of knowledge of game mechanics. Namely, two of them:

1. Spotting (or rather rendering of spotted ships) is postponed. The coded delay is something like 3 seconds if I recall correctly. This is why you first get a "spotted" notification and only after a moment the enemy appears (and closer than 2km too)

2. Also (not in case of Dallas, but in general for cases like these) it's perfectly possible to be proximity-spotted before you yourself manage to proximity-spot an enemy.

 

Wows_icon_modernization_PCM026_LookoutStTarget Acquisition System Modification 1

Increases maximum acquisition range:

  • +50% to range of assured acquisition of enemy ships.
  • +20% to spotting range.
  • +20% to the acquisition range of torpedoes.

It's not really a very good (compared to alternatives - it goes into the concealment slot) or very popular upgrade. But it exists. Although Dallas can't mount it so it wasn't the "culprit" here.

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The amount of priggery in the OP combining with the ignorance of the game mechanics...

and this!

2 hours ago, Commander_Cornflakes said:

why was your hydro not running?

and this!

3 hours ago, Johmie said:

only player left on your team

 

1 hour ago, ColonelPete said:

Sitting in smoke

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18 minutes ago, Excavatus said:

The amount of priggery in the OP combining with the ignorance of the game mechanics...

and this!

and this!

 

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I especially enjoy the mini-map that you can cover with your thumb.

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5 minutes ago, Nechrom said:

I especially enjoy the mini-map that you can cover with your thumb.

Oh blimey!!

I literally didn't see the minimap!! :Smile_teethhappy:

 

oh.. and hidden stats as well !

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2 hours ago, eliastion said:

2. Also (not in case of Dallas, but in general for cases like these) it's perfectly possible to be proximity-spotted before you yourself manage to proximity-spot an enemy.

 

Wows_icon_modernization_PCM026_LookoutStTarget Acquisition System Modification 1

Increases maximum acquisition range:

  • +50% to range of assured acquisition of enemy ships.
  • +20% to spotting range.
  • +20% to the acquisition range of torpedoes.

It's not really a very good (compared to alternatives - it goes into the concealment slot) or very popular upgrade. But it exists. Although Dallas can't mount it so it wasn't the "culprit" here.

 

I was thinking he probably fired his guns before that, but proximity spotting could also very well be the case.

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Hidden stats... I wonder why :Smile_sceptic:

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Well, 32 hits at the end of the game with a Fiji... that explains it all.

 

 

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7 hours ago, RedAnark said:

So here the screen shot from the replay:  Dallas was able to come in open water and still be hidden for 3 to 5 sec and for 1 km or more at a very far distance from my Fiji of 1.9 km...!:Smile_teethhappy:

 

Id like to ask you this question: At what distance do you think the Dallas should have been spotted? Lets assume there are no island and you are sitting in the smoke.

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5 hours ago, Commander_Cornflakes said:

The real questions are: How can you have only 16k damage after a 17 minutes game and how did you get 3 kills with that damage? And why was your hydro not running? That would have spotted the Dallas way earlier. :cap_hmm:

 

He even manages to squeez a torp-hit into those 16k dmg !

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Vor 2 Stunden, invicta2012 sagte:

He's also running Windows XP, and I don't think the game supports that anymore....

and with an imho very strange key setting...consumables on del, end, page down, num block?

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This thread deserves the seal

 

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Sorry boris yours don't qualify :Smile_hiding:

 

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7 hours ago, RedAnark said:

So the answer is yes, disappearing ships exist but 99% are a software mistakes that can be corrected. See ya!

How can you belong to a clan and still be so much ignorant of the most basics mechanics of the game?

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7 minutes ago, Ysterpyp said:

This thread deserves the seal

 

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Sorry boris yours don't qualify :Smile_hiding:

 

Wouldn't the Rating : Suspicious be better in this case ?

 

As for the OP, there are too many things to retort to, I don't know where to starts, but I'll try :

- endgame, 32 hits with Fiji wtf

- No knowledge of the game mechanics wtf

- 16k damage wtf

- 3 kills within 16k damage ! And I thought my 6 kills with Worcester in 120k was already low enough ! Wtf.

- Still one torp hit wtf.

- Wtf are those consumable key

- Windows XP wtf.

 

TL;DR : wtf.

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Just now, ShinGetsu said:

Wouldn't the Rating : Suspicious be better in this case ?

thats the one id be looking for

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Reading the forums (typically more invested and knowledgeable players than non forum goers) has opened my eyes as to the extent (or lack thereof) of the average player's ability to understand the game.

 

WG... 

Make in-game tutorials. It's more urgent than adding more and more branches.

I'll volunteer to test them out. Seriously, that's part of my job description. 

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4 minutes ago, Exocet6951 said:

Reading the forums (typically more invested and knowledgeable players than non forum goers) has opened my eyes as to the extent (or lack thereof) of the average player's ability to understand the game.

 

WG... 

Make in-game tutorials. It's more urgent than adding more and more branches.

I'll volunteer to test them out. Seriously, that's part of my job description. 

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Maybe they can do both, with 2 different teams.

 

Sorry for double posts, It won't happen again.

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How deep a screenshot can bury its owner!!!

 

6 hours ago, Johmie said:

you are the only player left on your team so nobody else could spot that Dallas

 

5 hours ago, Commander_Cornflakes said:

How can you have only 16k damage after a 17 minutes game and how did you get 3 kills with that damage?

 

5 hours ago, Commander_Cornflakes said:

And why was your hydro not running?

 

2 hours ago, Nechrom said:

the mini-map that you can cover with your thumb

 

2 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

running Windows XP,

 

1 hour ago, JapLance said:

32 hits at the end of the game with a Fiji.

 

35 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

a torp-hit into those 16k dmg

 

28 minutes ago, Bismark_ohne_Zeh said:

strange key setting...consumables on del, end, page down, num block

 

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35 minutes ago, Exocet6951 said:

Reading the forums (typically more invested and knowledgeable players than non forum goers) has opened my eyes as to the extent (or lack thereof) of the average player's ability to understand the game.

 

WG... 

Make in-game tutorials. It's more urgent than adding more and more branches.

I'll volunteer to test them out. Seriously, that's part of my job description. 

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I agree about the tutorials.

You never know, it might, just might ......

HELP IMPROVE THE WORRYINGLY LOW PLAYER RETENTION RATE.

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Also, using a 3rd party screenshot utility for no reason whatsoever, ensuring he hides part of the screen he needed to take a screenshot off.

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