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I suppose the camo isn't available in-game for doubloons?

While the chance is slim, it's worth a shot.

 

6 ore fa, Nechrom ha scritto:

I suppose the camo isn't available in-game for doubloons?

While the chance is slim, it's worth a shot.

Turns out I can answer this one myself.

 

Yes, you can actually buy the Canada camo for doubloons, 2000 doubloons to be precise. :Smile_great:

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As a Tribal fan I would buy it, but being a Commonwealth ship (no training value) puts me back. After all, I already have Blyskawica as a T7 destroyer.

 

And then I just realised that the coupon I have in the Store doesn't work with this...

 

NO THANKS.

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Would I love to have a Canadian ship? - Yep

Is it iconic? - Yep

Is it a DD? - Yep

All big pluses to me

 

Will I buy it? - Nope

 

X turret being a useless secondary, indifferent gun angles, terrible gun ballistic arcs, having puny guns that need a specialist captain, awful torpedo reload and a rather silly Hydro all add up to a severe case of "why the hell would I bother?". Rather disappointed and is Cossack is the same which is highly likely, I'll pass on that as well.

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3 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said:

Would I love to have a Canadian ship? - Yep

Is it iconic? - Yep

Is it a DD? - Yep

All big pluses to me

 

Will I buy it? - Nope

 

X turret being a useless secondary, indifferent gun angles, terrible gun ballistic arcs, having puny guns that need a specialist captain, awful torpedo reload and a rather silly Hydro all add up to a severe case of "why the hell would I bother?". Rather disappointed and is Cossack is the same which is highly likely, I'll pass on that as well.

 

Oh it's kinda useless, but cute and I have a 14 point CW captain. The AA is heavy, gun range is long and IFHE does it's job, turret traverse is quite acceptable and 4 guns on the front is not to be understated. Detection is an absurd 5.7 with CE. With Gallant I default back to a torpedo boat a lot but this has an extra 3000 HP and 4 guns up the front  so being a low level gunboat is on the cards. I will wait till I get a non potato team to see what it is really good for. 

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1 minute ago, That_Other_Nid said:

 

Oh it's kinda useless, but cute and I have a 14 point CW captain. The AA is heavy, gun range is long and IFHE does it's job, turret traverse is quite acceptable and 4 guns on the front is not to be understated. Detection is an absurd 5.7 with CE. With Gallant I default back to a torpedo boat a lot but this has an extra 3000 HP and 4 guns up the front  so being a low level gunboat is on the cards. I will wait till I get a non potato team to see what it is really good for. 

I like various aspects, but I'm not going to blow a bunch of Elite XP getting an IFHE captain for a single boat., sure my Perth could use it, but it's sub optimal.

My views are also slightly coloured by the fact that I've just slapped 2 Haida silly in my Indianapolis (which is by any measure a pretty meh ship in the first place) which I'm not terribly good at playing.

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6 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said:

I like various aspects, but I'm not going to blow a bunch of Elite XP getting an IFHE captain for a single boat., sure my Perth could use it, but it's sub optimal.

My views are also slightly coloured by the fact that I've just slapped 2 Haida silly in my Indianapolis (which is by any measure a pretty meh ship in the first place) which I'm not terribly good at playing.

Yeah, with low end captains they are going to be bad, they are also quite slow compared to Russian gunboats, so will try to hang around in smoke. This works with Gadjah Mada because of the massive torpedo battery and the 5 smoke charges, but this ship will be hard pressed to find a role. I will need to get better at dodging fire and play it as a Minsk, saving the torpedoes for point blank spreads.

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7 minutes ago, aboomination said:

Free cpt xp can be earned with any 19sp captain, tho.

 

Of course, but my multiple 19 pointers have uses in Silver line and some premium ships of their respective nations. 

Commonwealth seems unlikely to ever grow and despite the fact that the RN and Commonwealth Navies had a fair amount of interchange of officers you can't in the game which would have made the Commonwealth ships far more attractive. 

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3 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said:

 

Of course, but my multiple 19 pointers have uses in Silver line and some premium ships of their respective nations. 

Commonwealth seems unlikely to ever grow and despite the fact that the RN and Commonwealth Navies had a fair amount of interchange of officers you can't in the game which would have made the Commonwealth ships far more attractive. 

What I wanted to say: Premium ships aren't needed for training purposes anymore. Just buy the ones you'll probably like to play.

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38 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said:

X turret being a useless secondary, indifferent gun angles, terrible gun ballistic arcs, having puny guns that need a specialist captain, awful torpedo reload and a rather silly Hydro all add up to a severe case of "why the hell would I bother?". Rather disappointed and is Cossack is the same which is highly likely, I'll pass on that as well.

Well the ship is tier 7, and even with just 3 turrets (6 guns) it has the highest HE DPM of all the tier 7 DDs.

What skill is mandatory aside from CE? IFHE? Why? The guns are 120mm which for all intents and purposes penetrates the same armor as 127mm. You can damage all DDs you will see. You can damage up to your own tier of cruisers any tier of RN CL, minus a couple of CA. BBs are as usual restricted to superstructure damage with the exception of tier 5.

 

Personally I like the good concealment combined with the hard hitting HE shells.

The torpedoes are also quite nifty with the single launch ability and overall good stats.

The "moving" smoke is interesting to use in combination with the long duration hydro.

The hydro may have short range, but it's more than enough for defense.

 

The Cossack has 8 main guns, right? Should be interesting...

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1 minute ago, aboomination said:

What I wanted to say: Premium ships aren't needed for training purposes anymore. Just buy the ones you'll probably like to play.

 

Indeed, I've not used a Premium ship for retraining in ages, but it's also a useful way to farm more elite XP.

 

really wanted to want the Haida as I play DD's a lot and I am interested in the history of a thoroughly iconic ship, but the stats and review applied the common sense brakes to me opening my wallet.

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2 hours ago, darkstar73 said:

Goodmorning guys. Good news. Haida is in shop now :D:D 

And in my port ;)

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1 hour ago, BeauNidl3 said:

Would I love to have a Canadian ship? - Yep

Is it iconic? - Yep

Is it a DD? - Yep

 

Will I buy it? - Nope

 

Same here. I'll buy Heida when she's available for gold in the client (and on the sale)

 

Gadjah Mada is significantly better in the same role. Although I'm sure Heida will become the tier 7 Loyang when they nerf GM into the ground (assuming they're intent on keeping the class at tier 7, it's still the best tier 8 DD design in the game) or randomly buff the hydro to 5km. 

 

33 minutes ago, aboomination said:

What I wanted to say: Premium ships aren't needed for training purposes anymore

 

Yep and many new premiums require unique captains anyway.

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2 hours ago, Kiagy said:

After watching the review by ichase, i won't be buying this

Did you notice that he managed to sink 4 enemy ships and top the leaderboard? :) It looks a fun but one-dimensional ship, with all the issues we discussed with Cossack - not enough torps for a torp destroyer, not quite enough guns for a gunboat, smoke and Hydro looks "her thing".

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Nah, will skip her. Not impressed. Cossack, I might go for.

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Always buy British ships - and this was built in Britain - seems fine - not quite used to the gun arcs but killed an Akatsuki and won my first game! Had more commander XP than I knew what to do with so have 19 point captain! Nice and compact though looking forward to the extra 2 guns of the Cossack!

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8 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Did you notice that he managed to sink 4 enemy ships and top the leaderboard? :) It looks a fun but one-dimensional ship, with all the issues we discussed with Cossack - not enough torps for a torp destroyer, not quite enough guns for a gunboat, smoke and Hydro looks "her thing".

5 games so far with horrendous teams. Slowly getting the hang of the creeping smoke and the 3 minute hydro. The lack of torpedoes is the biggest issue. A 72 second reload would make it significantly more effective. 

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WG if you merge Commonwealth and RN into a sensible (and historically accurate) single line with transferable captains, then I'll go ahead and buy it.

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I have so far almost all Premiums but the latest ones, Massachusetts, Monaghan, Haida I will not buy, latest buy was the Abruzzi and I have finally more or less reach the limits of ships that I have the time to play,

I also want ships in the game tech tree, I have lots of gold (around 24.000) that I simply can not use. Sure premium time but with 400 days , not at the moment. given that they might come new premiums that might be of better use practically as training ships. I would like if there comes more mid/low tier premiums there are so many attractive ships that I want f.e. Dreadnought, and other WW1 ships

 

So mediocre ships with less utility will be bought when they come in the tech tree (as there is hardly anything else to spend it on).

 

OTOH a good Italian DD or so in the T5/6 bracket I will probably buy.

 

I starting also to have a decent number of 19 p captains so the elite XP influx is secured with ships like Kutuzov and Zao, ships that I usually at least perform okayish in and brings lots of XP , and above all I like to play.

 

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2 hours ago, JapLance said:

As a Tribal fan I would buy it, but being a Commonwealth ship (no training value) puts me back. After all, I already have Blyskawica as a T7 destroyer.

 

And then I just realised that the coupon I have in the Store doesn't work with this...

 

NO THANKS.

Was pretty much this for me.

 

I came close to paying for it but saw the Commonwealth flag instead of the RN one.

 

Bad times :Smile_sad:

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Mejash make a good review of the ship

 

 

He also raises some question considering Haida's 5.7km concealment in relation with IJN DDs and I agree with him on this. I think that this is just another nerf to IJN DDs generally and Shira particularly. Anyhow I torn with this ship, I want to buy her but her being Commonwealth ship is keeping me away, for now. I definitely have intention to buy her eventually.

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