srbski_vuk Players 27 posts 20,066 battles Report post #1 Posted June 27, 2018 Here goes things: 1. Recently i buy Sharnhorst and first 3 days everything being ok after that i dont know what you doo my secondary wont automaticly fire if i manualy dont set them. 2. you with your small update worstened dispersion of shots ( nerfed) and every ship i love you destroyed. 3. Your MM is disaster fighting constantly against 2 tiers up its not enjoable anymore fix first game then add new stuff. Regards 2 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #2 Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, srbski_vuk said: Here goes things: 1. Recently i buy Sharnhorst and first 3 days everything being ok after that i dont know what you doo my secondary wont automaticly fire if i manualy dont set them. 2. you with your small update worstened dispersion of shots ( nerfed) and every ship i love you destroyed. 3. Your MM is disaster fighting constantly against 2 tiers up its not enjoable anymore fix first game then add new stuff. Regards 1. Scharnhorst never got nerfed. 2. Scharnhorst never got nerfed. 3. You can't pay for better MM. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #3 Posted June 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, srbski_vuk said: 1. Recently i buy Sharnhorst and first 3 days everything being ok after that i dont know what you doo my secondary wont automaticly fire if i manualy dont set them. Have you, perhaps, picked "manual secondaries" captain skill? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAVOC] Niibler Players 723 posts Report post #4 Posted June 27, 2018 1. There is a captain skill called "Manual secondaries". Think about it a bit... 2. My dispersion got much better after the "small patch". 3. You can have a point but 1 and 2 make it difficult to validate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srbski_vuk Players 27 posts 20,066 battles Report post #5 Posted June 27, 2018 Nop buddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srbski_vuk Players 27 posts 20,066 battles Report post #6 Posted June 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, eliastion said: Have you, perhaps, picked "manual secondaries" captain skill? Nop buddy 7 minutes ago, MortenTardo said: 1. Scharnhorst never got nerfed. 2. Scharnhorst never got nerfed. 3. You can't pay for better MM. yes it has broo 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srbski_vuk Players 27 posts 20,066 battles Report post #7 Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Niibler said: 1. There is a captain skill called "Manual secondaries". Think about it a bit... 2. My dispersion got much better after the "small patch". 3. You can have a point but 1 and 2 make it difficult to validate. my get much worst broo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #8 Posted June 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, srbski_vuk said: Nop buddy yes it has broo Show me a source 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srbski_vuk Players 27 posts 20,066 battles Report post #9 Posted June 27, 2018 1 minute ago, MortenTardo said: Show me a source Next time i go to game i will show you 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #10 Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, srbski_vuk said: Next time i go to game i will show you So it has not been nerfed, you just think it has been nerfed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srbski_vuk Players 27 posts 20,066 battles Report post #11 Posted June 27, 2018 i dont think buddy with every small update i can tell diference before and after. So you think am lying its that it? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #12 Posted June 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, srbski_vuk said: i dont think buddy with every small update i can tell diference before and after. So you think am lying its that it? He's saying you're wrong and that you have nothing but your subjective impressions to back up your claim. Whereas we have the documented lack of changes to the Scharnhorst to back up our argument that she wasn't nerfed. WG hasn't touched the Scharnhorst in any patches. You can datamine the stats straight from the game files to check and compare if you want to verify that independently. But "she's totally missing more shots than when I just bought her" is nothing but tinfoilhattery. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] ClappingLollies Players 1,953 posts Report post #13 Posted June 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Aotearas said: He's saying you're wrong and that you have nothing but your subjective impressions to back up your claim. Whereas we have the documented lack of changes to the Scharnhorst to back up our argument that she wasn't nerfed. WG hasn't touched the Scharnhorst in any patches. You can datamine the stats straight from the game files to check and compare if you want to verify that independently. But "she's totally missing more shots than when I just bought her" is nothing but tinfoilhattery. Basically sniped me, so this^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #14 Posted June 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, srbski_vuk said: i dont think buddy with every small update i can tell diference before and after. So you think am lying its that it? No, we just think you're blinded by bias and incompetence. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #15 Posted June 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, srbski_vuk said: i dont think buddy with every small update i can tell diference before and after. So you think am lying its that it? No. We don't think you're lying - nobody here denies that you believe what you're saying. What people here try to explain to you is that you're just wrong and what you believe to be real (the dreadful Scharnhorst nerfs) just isn't. Mistaking your gut feeling for facts is hardly uncommon and you're just another victim of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FDUSH] Sargento_YO Players 1,476 posts 12,665 battles Report post #16 Posted June 27, 2018 I really feel pity for the teams you end with using this ship. This thread basically says "I'm a noob wallet warrior which brought this ship and I don't even know how to use the apropiate skills". Scharnhorst can make a good work catching enemy cruisers (even tier IX!) and dds. Nevertheless... Thanks to these transactions we are able to enjoy a free to play game. So, that kinda levels it out. Also, I wouldn't mind fight you. And even if you end in my team I really should be able to outweight the nobness if I play in a CV. Otherwise the noob one will be me... ...Damn, I need another drink. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Ubertron_X [NWP] Beta Tester 2,657 posts 25,768 battles Report post #17 Posted June 27, 2018 This thread... Spoiler 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OttoZander Players 349 posts 15,839 battles Report post #18 Posted June 28, 2018 Everything you think you noticed about the Shiny Horse is false. She was not nerfed. It is simply RnG playing tricks on you - you have bad luck. You had a few bad days and now you think it has been nerfed, but you do not have a large enough data pool to collect from. Give it another day and you will start having great games again. As for the manual secondaries, you have picked up the Manual Secondary skill. Even if you say "No", before we discuss any further, post us a screenshot of your captain's skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Hedgehog1963 [BONUS] Beta Tester 3,211 posts 14,951 battles Report post #19 Posted June 28, 2018 8 hours ago, srbski_vuk said: Here goes things: 1. Recently i buy Sharnhorst and first 3 days everything being ok after that i dont know what you doo my secondary wont automaticly fire if i manualy dont set them. 2. you with your small update worstened dispersion of shots ( nerfed) and every ship i love you destroyed. 3. Your MM is disaster fighting constantly against 2 tiers up its not enjoable anymore fix first game then add new stuff. Regards Have you chosen the commander skill "Manual Fire Control For Secondary Armament?" If so you neet to activate it for the secondary battery to fire. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #20 Posted June 28, 2018 My Schiny Horse works just fine, dispersion have always been derpy and manual secondaries work just aswell. OP are you sure you give enough broadside for your secondaries to work or do you even know the exact range of them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ONE2] RAHJAILARI Players 3,160 posts 31,670 battles Report post #21 Posted June 28, 2018 "Dear WG, I just played 2 games in my Hashidate. I won the first one, but then suddenly lost the other. The problem only affects my ship, the other work just fine. So why did you nerf my ship in-between the matches? - BTW I am an Awesome player." 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Up_The_Donald ∞ Players 130 posts 7,852 battles Report post #22 Posted June 28, 2018 And people say I am irrational and paranoid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #23 Posted June 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Up_The_Donald said: And people say I am irrational and paranoid? No we say your a TROLL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Up_The_Donald ∞ Players 130 posts 7,852 battles Report post #24 Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, T0byJug said: No we say your a TROLL It's "you're" actually. Enjoy your day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Blixies Beta Tester, Players 2,160 posts 6,904 battles Report post #25 Posted June 28, 2018 35 minutes ago, Up_The_Donald said: And people say I am irrational and paranoid? You are just an egocentric attention seeker, imho. Do irrationality and paranoia come with the package? (It's a rhetorical quetion). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
