The Aoba

[CandyVanMan]

This thread made me sell my Kongo to rebuy my Aoba!

 

No big loss, I'm terrible at battleships anyway

[DBaron]

This thread made me sell my Kongo to rebuy my Aoba!

 

No big loss, I'm terrible at battleships anyway

 

Totally understand

 

The Aoba is fine were it is and can do very well in the games, even vs Clevelands. Seeing some of those ships played in the games, I can totally understand why ppl think it doesnt perform and needs to be replaced, because thats always easier than adapting ;)

[KG156]

Aoba and Furutaka are not good cruisers(35 knots are unnecessary for heavy cruisers...), their loading speed are too slow and even Omaha can get them...... I think both of them should be put to Tier V(Aoba Class cannot match Cleveland), and put Mogami(155mm edition) on Tier VI to balance the 'Cleveland Machine-Gun'...... If I can choose, I would rather choose a slower ship(30~32 knots)but with more 152mm guns. Honestly, those 203mm guns are useless......

[Doolio]

All hail the resurection masta!

 

That said, I just can't play with high rof miniguns. I stopped at omaha and got her half-researched and switched completely to ijn cruiser line. Currently I am at aoba and I like it. I wouldn't know how it compares mathematically, but I much more prefer the playstyle of japanese cruisers. If you apply the same philosophy that we have in the usn cruiser line to the ijn cruiser line (higher rof, smaller caliber etc), you will lose the asymmetrical approach, that is, well, the spine of the game practically.

[IamTroublemaker]

Aoba and Furutaka are not good cruisers(35 knots are unnecessary for heavy cruisers...), their loading speed are too slow and even Omaha can get them...... I think both of them should be put to Tier V(Aoba Class cannot match Cleveland), and put Mogami(155mm edition) on Tier VI to balance the 'Cleveland Machine-Gun'...... If I can choose, I would rather choose a slower ship(30~32 knots)but with more 152mm guns. Honestly, those 203mm guns are useless......

 

I think its just you, I love my Aoba, especially when I see an Omaha, the first thing I think about is FREE CITADELS, as its guns are quite precise and I got up to 5 citadel hits (In one salvo) against Omaha, easily killing him in 2 salvos...

 

Always shoot AP with your Aoba at opponent cruisers, and try to show your broadside the least you can as you are a floating citadel.

[sotiris_warrior]

if aoba could have one more turret it would a nice ship.pattions until the mogami

[OVanBruce]

Oh boy, what a trip from the underworld! Now, where were my bowels?

[IamTroublemaker]

How did this topic end up here. I thought its in Ships/Cruisers

[Tubit101]

I like the Aoba. The problem isn't with the Aoba, it's with the Cleveland being disproportionately resilient to everything - and still, the Aoba rocks. My favorite feature is that you can fire two thirds of its guns from a zero degree angle.

[Cosseria]

It's a miracle! I buy her back, and a dead topic about her resurrects!

I tried her in a game of corner lemmings (those who lemmingtrain to hide into a corner of the map while you're being ripped apart defending B) against the Annapolis WoWs team. I rage quit, we lost, but the exp gain was worth it.

[JapLance]

Not impressed with the Aoba at all.

 

A tier V Omaha has just wrecked me with his rate of fire. He sunk me, but he went down with me thanks to a last second spread of torpedoes.

 

This cruiser needs some buffing. Number of guns is out of the question (ahistorical) so rate of fire and/or armour are the only options, in my opinion. Alternatively, put it a tier lower.

 

I can't remember if ROF was actually buffed to current levels or if it was already the actual one, but my impressions about Aoba changed before CBT was finished. When the game went open I was preferring it over Cleveland, and now I simply don't play Cleveland, while I did most of my early ranked battles this season in Aoba.

[Spellfire40]

Aoba is a soild T6 CA. Whoever is suprised at its fragility dosent seems to have noticed its no worse than any preceding CA in the IJN line. Its shell trejectory gives it a clear advantage at long range engagements over a Clevland. The thing why the Cleavland is considered OP isnt its Guns expect in Close range Fights. but its Citadell and armor layout wich make citadel hits agist her more a thing of luck.

[Seikin]

Despite people in the past always talking about it being a 'breath of fresh air' after the furutaka.. . I think the Furu is a much stronger ship for it's tier.. (and that was even my view before the Furu buffs) One of the main reasons - mentioned a lot already is the Cleveland. Aoba (and Furu) rely on citadels - and the Cleve - apart from being strong for its tier anyway - is very hard to citadel - making it's JPN opposite feel even weaker than it probably is.

 

But yeah, in comparing the Furu vs Aoba with equivalent tier opponents, I find the Furu scores more citadels vs enemy cruisers (simply because you see more Omaha's than Cleve's at that tier). I find the Furu is much more durable, has much better torp angles - so can get more speculative long range torps off. Also its much more feasible, with the Furus toughness and torp angles, and lower tier opponents to get close enough to BB's and torp them to death (in the right circumstances). You can't really do that with the Aoba.

 

So yeah, vs cruisers, I think Furu is stronger than Aoba. vs BB's - again, I think Furu is stronger than Aoba - but Aoba is better vs DD,s I think and better AA. (all views based on its equivalent tier btw)

[Kurbain]

Yeah, the low armor of the Aoba and the high amount of armor + Citadel layout on the Cleveland means it's easy for the Cleveland to citadel the Aoba despite its lower caliber while the Aoba has problems citadelling(Is that even a word?) the Cleveland despite its large caliber.

 

But apart from that I prefer the Aoba over the Cleveland. The large caliber and much better trajectory means HE and AP are much more likely to damage BBs.

I got no problem hitting BBs for 4000-7000 damage in a single salvo in my Myoko, but I'm happy if I get even 1500 in my Murmansk.

 

Due to the 127mm of the Cleveland it is also less likely to get overpenetrated by BBs.

Nevertheless I got no idea why it got that much armor in the first place. Normally 127mm+ isn't available before T8.

[basharran]

Yeah, the low armor of the Aoba and the high amount of armor + Citadel layout on the Cleveland means it's easy for the Cleveland to citadel the Aoba despite its lower caliber while the Aoba has problems citadelling(Is that even a word?) the Cleveland despite its large caliber.

 

But apart from that I prefer the Aoba over the Cleveland. The large caliber and much better trajectory means HE and AP are much more likely to damage BBs.

I got no problem hitting BBs for 4000-7000 damage in a single salvo in my Myoko, but I'm happy if I get even 1500 in my Murmansk.

 

Due to the 127mm of the Cleveland it is also less likely to get overpenetrated by BBs.

Nevertheless I got no idea why it got that much armor in the first place. Normally 127mm+ isn't available before T8.

 

The 127mm is the historical belt armor (citadel) thickness of the Cleveland class light cruisers. The Aoba had a maximum armor of 76mm. Keep in mind that both ships are virtually from another era, as the Aoba is from the 1920's and the Clevelands are from the 1940's with some modern war experience incorporated into their design. I like both ships, the Aoba for it's guns and the Cleveland for it's durability.

[damo74]

 

[swellgrim]

Worst Cruiser in IJN.

When a DD can citadel you from the front, than something wrong with her and cant do your job as a cruiser.

You have to forget your back gun, because a little angleing and you got citadelled, because most of her armor is on the superstructure, the back is a paper where your torps living and an easy target even from the front.

So basicaly, big hit box on the back for citadel, not so good torp angle,and "weak" AA (90% of the AA are short ranged and useless againts 2-3km and above)

made her to the hardest use cruiser in the game in IJN line for sure.

[peltast2]

After patch 0.5.9  is Aoba a crapy cruiser. Because of the MM is now facing very frequently tier 8 BB, CL and DDs. The range 14,9 km is forcing you to go to the front line where you became a target for enemy BBs. One or two BB salvos and you are dead. Aoba is now a short range sniper with a paper armor and turns like a brick on water.

[SV_Kompresor]

Well it's one of my favorites....I've found that it CAN take quite a bit of punishment as long as you don't show a broadside, and it has very good guns....

[peltast2]

Most of the posts about Aoba before patch 0.5.9 are misleading  people that Aoba is a very excellent cruiser. The reality today is quite opposite.

[Elenortirion]

maybe things have changed since I was in aoba last time, but last time when I've wen't bow onto stufff I was able to bounce even battleship shells..... [until they got close]

[JapLance]

Most of the posts about Aoba before patch 0.5.9 are misleading  people that Aoba is a very excellent cruiser. The reality today is quite opposite.

 

The Aoba is an excellent cruiser. The problem is that ANY cruiser is food for BBs right now.

[IsoA]

Aoba was very good CA, I just upgraded her to Myoko. I managed 48k average damage and 59% WR. The guns are great, they do a lot of damage, fire a lot faster than on Furutaka and start a lot of fires especially once you get DE. You also can take hits if you angle correctly. There is only one downside to Aoba and it's the terrible torp angles. Otherwise the ship is fine.

[Hayashio]

 

I had fragility problems on the turrets mainly with BBs like the Nagato and Amagi (I'm starting to think they're actually paper made), not many on the Mogami. It barely happened on the IJN CAs.

 

  The gun turrets weighed 1,004 tons

 

Must've been some thick phone books :^)

 

 

I enjoyed the Aoba, and didn't find her any more fragile than the Nuernberg

[D7v]

Aoba is my first and only love in this game