CYCLONE do you like them?

[blackhawk666]

Hello everyone !

 

My question is simple: Do you like battles with cyclone?

 

I think they are awfully bad for multiple reasons.

1- In a battleship : As you are rarely on the 8km of the enemy fleet, you lose your time trying to reach action (it can be very long with slow BBs) and then you finally only reach a DD and get deleted.

2- In a cruiser : You don't want to be that close most of the time, except some tanky+torps CC like hindenburg

3- Not too painful here but you don't want to find a radar cruiser near you.

4- In CV it's bad too.

 

In all cases it reduce gameplay possibilities to something as stupid as a rock paper scissors.

Last thing: it happens way to much ! Yesterday 4 times in a row!  Multiple times per day everyday is too much.

 

 

[HaachamaShipping]

But cyclone is best BB weather. Needs not even be German. Any BB that can brawl should love cyclones.

 

And you have like 5 minutes to get into position, so even a 21 knot dreadnought can get into position.

[Xevious_Red]

You easily can turn them to your advantage.

 

BB: It's brawling time. No more being spammed by HE from 20km. Getting close isn't a problem unless you were too far back in the first place.

CA: if you have torps/like to brawl then it's brawling time. If not then you can happily cap without being deleted.

DD: business as usual, now you only have 1 person shooting you if you get spotted.

CV: they don't see your planes until you're already dropping.

[blackhawk666]

You can not go into position too soon because everybody will see you and you will get focus. Everybody can rejoin the fight but you lose your time multiple minutes (the battles are already too short with the meta "run to the borders")

 

The brawling time is random time, i don't like random.

 

 

[FishDogFoodShack]

Cyclones are cake for BBs. Just delete anything as soon as it appears.

 

Cruisers are the only class that I feel truly suffer in cyclones, the others can make it work but cruisers have by far the biggest margin for error. As per usual ...

[blackhawk666]

Cake for BBs only if they are no DDs, no Cruisers with torps rushing you (especially if you can't overmatch the nose), no more than 1 or 2 targets to deal with (depending what target).

 

 

 

[El2aZeR]

37 minutes ago, blackhawk666 said:

4- In CV it's bad too.

 

Are you joking? A cyclone is the greatest thing that can ever happen to you in a CV. It basically gives you the ability to ignore AA until you're within drop distance. And if you've made a perfect approach you will lock in before someone can even react thanks to rendering time, making DFAA useless.

[blackhawk666]

i don't play CV much, my mistake, i thought the AA shot before you can spot the ship with your planes.

[Egoleter]

10 minutes ago, blackhawk666 said:

Cake for BBs only if they are no DDs, no Cruisers with torps rushing you (especially if you can't overmatch the nose), no more than 1 or 2 targets to deal with (depending what target).

It's only a problem for BBs if they don't know how the WASD anti-torp hack works and didn't pay attention from which direction those torp ships they might head towards them.

[dCK_Ad_Hominem]

While it has some problems connected to it, I like it, same as detonations. The element of randomness makes battles and tactics more diverse and the game less stale. Though going up against a Moskva is rather bad. 

[Gojuadorai]

poll has insuficient answers....

 

 

it verry much depends in which ship i am and if theres a CV  if i like them or not

[FishDogFoodShack]

23 minutes ago, blackhawk666 said:

Cake for BBs only if they are no DDs, no Cruisers with torps rushing you (especially if you can't overmatch the nose), no more than 1 or 2 targets to deal with (depending what target).

 

 

 

 

Well, it is you against a number of people who have already said that BBs flourish in cyclones. Also, "only if there are no DDs" is a thing for BBs even without a cyclone.

[blackhawk666]

Why you try to turn this discussion into a fight between me vs people?

I'm just here to see the point of view of other players and expose mine. I respect all opinion but that don't mean i will change mine.

[FishDogFoodShack]

3 minutes ago, blackhawk666 said:

Why you try to turn this discussion into a fight between me vs people?

I'm just here to see the point of view of other players and expose mine. I respect all opinion but that don't mean i will change mine.

 

That is cute but I'm not starting a fight.

[rvfharrier]

For me DDs are probably the worst class to be stuck in a cyclone in. You lose the overwhelming majority of your spotting advantage and are forced to walk a tightrope in order to spot enemies and get torps off without being spotted in return, or else risk return fire at dangerously close range if you decide to use guns. Cruisers and BBs do just fine in cyclones, it can provide for some great opportunities to ambush and outplay enemies if you're paying attention and position yourself well.

 

Definitely a positive for the game. While it can shut down games if you're unluckily positioned and/or have eliminated the enemies in your vicinity already, far more often it provides for some very fun and intense brawling. Almost like a mini-reset button just to mix things up.

[blackhawk666]

Interesting,

The moment when the cyclone start is random i think and it will determine if the battle will be playable or not.

 

I have already had the cyclone from the beginning which is unpleasant because it is impossible to know what we will meet.

if it appears in late game it shut down the last part of the battle as you said.

 

[BrusilovX]

I don't like them in a DD as I've lost my stealth.

 

I presume that fir BBs they can be bad if your guns are not facing the correct direction (if you're not hiding in a corner somewhere).

 

[SeaWolf7]

Put this topic up a while ago and im not a huge fan of cyclones as too many times my team have had the lead then it all go's pear shaped when a cyclone hits and we loose.

But perhaps I just need to play the situation better and be more aware of previous enemy positions?

Or its I am a Cl player and maybe I just get the raw end of the stick in cyclones

 

either way not to bothered by them now.....

[slow_hand]

I generally like cyclones. They change teamplay and tactics. Now you are forced to play coordinated with a lot more ships than usual and apply flanking in a much more confined space. The better your team is able to move together without blocking lines of fire/torps, the better will be the results . And at the same time scouting is very important. Maybe you don‘t like it, because  you have to rely on average joe much more than the usual 2 - 4 decent players or your division to carry it and control 2/3 of a map. But I as an average joe like it and I think it is good for a refreshing gameplay experience. Not all the same all the time.

[StringWitch]

I love them. Turns high tier into 10 minute battles instead of 20 minute camping trips.

[AnEvilJoke]

I personal like the weather very much, even if it has it's limitation because it is arcade after all.

[_DeathWing_]

I like groot 

[GulvkluderGuld]

Cyclones are too common, almost one game in five.

[Lin3]

Cyclones happen far too often. They are a major nerf to higher tiered cruisers, most of which suffer enough already.

 

How about having some cyclones where the visibility is reduced to 14 kms instead of 8 kms, to at least give cruisers a bit more chance?

 

[blackhawk666]

Or maybe make the dispersion worse on cyclone (like on scenario missions)