TGD_2016 Players 14 posts 516 battles Report post #1 Posted June 10, 2018 i played as independence in a random battle with a enemy carrier Ryujo carrier. When i first saw he's plane he had like 3 groups of fighter and after he had torpedo and bomber group. How the freak is this posible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] MrWastee Players 3,715 posts 30,176 battles Report post #2 Posted June 10, 2018 well.... WELL.... might go to techtree in client, click on the ryujo and find out urself?! ... short: several flightdecks to choose from, u ran into an A(ir) S(uperiority) setup, 3 fighters, 1 torp bomber, 1 divebomber. alternative is 1 fighter, 2 torpbombers 2 dive (if i recall all right). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Commander_Cornflakes WG Team, WoWs Wiki Team 3,537 posts 14,936 battles Report post #3 Posted June 10, 2018 He researched the 3-1-1 setup. IJN CVs have different setups of planes, unlike US CVs- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] WolfGewehr Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,827 posts 11,306 battles Report post #4 Posted June 10, 2018 Well, Ryujo has 3 deck options in total; stock 1/1/2 and 2 upgrade options: 3/1/1 or 1/2/2. (fighters/torpedo bombers/dive bombers) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 9,801 battles Report post #5 Posted June 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, TGD_2016 said: i played as independence in a random battle with a enemy carrier Ryujo carrier. When i first saw he's plane he had like 3 groups of fighter and after he had torpedo and bomber group. How the freak is this posible Ryuujo air superiority loadout. It is terrible, but it exists. The ship can choose between 1 fighter, 2 dive bomber, 2 torpedo bomber loadout and 3 fighter, one dive bomber, one torpedo bomber loadout. If you hate having proper influence on the game, you opt for the latter, because good luck getting anything done with the single dive bomber and torp bomber squad. Bonus points for sending your fighters around in one big blob, then getting them strafed out of the sky by the single enemy Ryuujo fighter squad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TGD_2016 Players 14 posts 516 battles Report post #6 Posted June 10, 2018 Wow... wow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TIPC] Bmsrt Players 309 posts 15,886 battles Report post #7 Posted June 10, 2018 AS Ruyjo like others said... NOT met a single decent one of those so far,only lost to 1(!!!) game to AS setup player so far and that was a double carrier game,where the teammate Hiryu(I was in Independence,and even that game would gone different if I strafe the crap out of the friendly fighters when he locked...but my bad) was a Click Muppet(same goes for all the guys who play AS in random battles) they always want to play the Click on thingie whit their fighters wich only works vs another Click on Muppet. Bait fighter blob whit some bomber get behind its blob strafe it done. Had a game yesterday against one wich got so desperate vs my Independence so it actualy tryed to strafe,and got killed 2 of his squadrons in the process.(put him out of its misery after that stun) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estaca_de_Bares Players 1,429 posts 23,355 battles Report post #8 Posted June 10, 2018 Yes, an AS (air superiority CAW/flight mod) Ryujo. USN CVs had their available CAWs limited to 1 a few patches ago, while the IJN ones were untouched until recently (and the only modified one has been Hakuryu so far). AS relies on winning the air battle and the team being better than the reds, because the punch it can deliver is quite pitiable (they still have quite the scouting potential, though). OTOH, people that choose to follow that way aren't usually that skilled and tend to group the fighter squadrons for a click fight, hence even discarding the scouting. If you practice and master strafing you can outplay them with ease, so I'd recommend doing so. Salute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TGD_2016 Players 14 posts 516 battles Report post #9 Posted June 10, 2018 now i understand xd 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] wilkatis_LV [NMA] Players 5,061 posts 9,020 battles Report post #10 Posted June 10, 2018 56 minutes ago, TGD_2016 said: 3 groups of fighter and after he had torpedo and bomber group. AS settup of a IJN CV. Don't worry, well over 99% of the time when you see a CV using AS setup he's so bad there's no hope for him. Bait him with your fighters, do 1 drop with your DBs / TBs and you've already done more that that guy in his last 5 games combined Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Fat_Maniac [HOO] Players 2,316 posts 4,076 battles Report post #11 Posted June 10, 2018 *edit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] wilkatis_LV [NMA] Players 5,061 posts 9,020 battles Report post #12 Posted June 10, 2018 On 10/06/2018 at 4:06 PM, Fat_Maniac said: *edit 310 battles mate, he's a new one. Of course he hasn't experienced this kind of stuff just yet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu Quality Poster, In AlfaTesters, Beta Tester 2,196 posts 15,415 battles Report post #13 Posted June 10, 2018 3 hours ago, TGD_2016 said: now i understand xd It's worth pointing out as well that although IJN CVs have more squadrons at a time than USN CVs the individual squadrons are smaller than US ones (4 aircraft per squad IJN, 5 aircraft per squad USN, I believe). Though this also has exceptions (Saipan). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] wilkatis_LV [NMA] Players 5,061 posts 9,020 battles Report post #14 Posted June 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, Benser said: (4 aircraft per squad IJN, 5 aircraft per squad USN, I believe). 4...5 planes per squad on IJN (depending on captain skills) and 6...7 planes per squad on US (depending on captain skills). Premium CVs may differ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,197 battles Report post #15 Posted June 10, 2018 3 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said: 310 battles mate, he's a new one. Of course he hasn't experienced this kind of stuff just yet. Nor he has a real will to learn... 2 clicks would have told him what some just did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TS1] Runegrem Players 658 posts 8,162 battles Report post #16 Posted June 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, Juanx said: Nor he has a real will to learn... 2 clicks would have told him what some just did. Some people prefer to ask others over looking stuff up. He asked here, which is indicative of wanting to learn. Then he replied saying he understands. I don't see what the problem is. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NMA] wilkatis_LV [NMA] Players 5,061 posts 9,020 battles Report post #17 Posted June 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Juanx said: Nor he has a real will to learn... 2 clicks would have told him what some just did. US CVs have just 1 flight setup. He has no reason to think IJN CVs have it any different. Lets say he always sees 1-2-2 Ryujos. Maybe even mistakes 1-1-2 for that same, not hard to do it. Suddenly there's a 3-1-1. Remember that he has just 1 flight setup, has never had a reason to doubt that IJN CVs have 1 flight setup aswell, and has not seen a different flight setup on any Ryujos. That 3-1-1 doesn't fit in there. And so he asks us = tries to understand, a.k.a. learn. Simple, isn't it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
