3Form Weekend Tester 103 posts 1,174 battles Report post #576 Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) [edited] Edited April 13, 2015 by BigBadVuk This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content. An official notification has also been sent. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anr96 Weekend Tester 30 posts 9,761 battles Report post #577 Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) [edited] Sure. We can read here a lot of convincing argument, just the majority is "no money" or "no play" threats. And you wanna convince people, when your only argument is calling me a post driver (with my 20 post, where dozens a ppl making daily 20) on high horse and someone else' opinion contrived rubbish. If you can't do better arguments, I think you can spare them after they decide what they wanna do with the mod, probably after the orthodox Easter ie. mid week. Edited April 13, 2015 by BigBadVuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PANDD] Cmndr_Hill Beta Tester 30 posts 6,697 battles Report post #578 Posted April 13, 2015 With so many points of view, I say let people chose their gaming experience. Have two sets of servers, one set with mods and one set with zero tolerance to mods. I would chose no mods, as I want a meaningful experience of game play on a level playing field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDubiousDonut Alpha Tester 102 posts 33 battles Report post #579 Posted April 13, 2015 With so many points of view, I say let people chose their gaming experience. Have two sets of servers, one set with mods and one set with zero tolerance to mods. I would chose no mods, as I want a meaningful experience of game play on a level playing field. Unrealistic. Why? Too expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDS] Crooq_Lionfang Beta Tester 1,999 posts 6,434 battles Report post #580 Posted April 13, 2015 I don't actually see many points of view regarding this particular mod, the community, at least the part that is on the German and the English language forums here are very much unified in this thing being bad and game changing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PANDD] Cmndr_Hill Beta Tester 30 posts 6,697 battles Report post #581 Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) One of the sets of servers would not last very long, i'm sure the moded server would soon die out. The mod users would soon get feed up of not having an advantage over the majority of players. Yep you are right there are only two points of view. I want to be able to learn how to aim and the finesse that is needed to do it well. I want to play this game how the WOS ships team have designed it to be played. Not forced to play it how a few moders want it to be played. Edited April 13, 2015 by Cmndr_Hill 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rancidpunk Alpha Tester 489 posts 2,677 battles Report post #582 Posted April 13, 2015 Not sure about everyone else but this weekend has been just as much fun as ever, so for me at least the "aimbot" isn't making the game much different now I've got with the zigging/zagging and variable speeds. I suppose it's just another case of improvising, adapting and overcoming another of WG's crazier moments, a lot like T10 TD's took a few games to get used to in WoT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DumbleDerp Beta Tester 659 posts Report post #583 Posted April 13, 2015 So where I can find a fair PvP game? Good question. Co-op probably, although it'll be used there, but at least not against you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] slingshot82 Beta Tester 18 posts 3,537 battles Report post #584 Posted April 13, 2015 For me the most annoying thing since the emergence of aiming mods is being accused of using one every time you land a decent hit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OCTO] Broevaharo Alpha Tester 726 posts 50,398 battles Report post #585 Posted April 13, 2015 For me the most annoying thing since the emergence of aiming mods is being accused of using one every time you land a decent hit And that is also a reason why it has to go, it creates a toxic environment where people are accusing eachother of using the mod and, to be honest, if I see a BB hitting time after time at long range I also suspect that guy of using the mod.You don't need the mod on cruisers or DD's because you can easily lead aim with their rate of fire but it is a big advantage for BB's and it unbalances the game even more then it is already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BABBY] slingshot82 Beta Tester 18 posts 3,537 battles Report post #586 Posted April 13, 2015 Absolutely - when the BB guy nails me from 20km I want to either salute a great shot or joke with them about how lucky they are - not suspect he's hit me because of a mod - I actually don't think that many players are using it - but the suspicion that they might be is further damaging chat that wasn't the world's friendliest in the first place... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OGHF] BMARC_ [OGHF] Beta Tester 106 posts 15,711 battles Report post #587 Posted April 13, 2015 Absolutely - when the BB guy nails me from 20km I want to either salute a great shot or joke with them about how lucky they are - not suspect he's hit me because of a mod - I actually don't think that many players are using it - but the suspicion that they might be is further damaging chat that wasn't the world's friendliest in the first place... not many people will admit to using it, maybe they should and stop kidding the rest of us to there skill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[E-R-A] snipershot Beta Tester 324 posts 9,404 battles Report post #588 Posted April 13, 2015 Go watch the wows streamers. I checked about 15 streamers, and while none of the english speaking streamers were using the mod, all russian streamers i watched, bar one, were using the mod. Its clear to see the passion some people have about what is a lead indicator and not an "aimbot", however when emotion gives way to reason its clear to see Modding is a big part of wg games and there just isnt the same kind of outrage on russian wows forum. Even if all the people who have voiced their hate here, they are seriously outnumbered by a/ people who have not or do not contribute to the forum b/ people who are using the mod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OnboardG1 Beta Tester 202 posts 4,490 battles Report post #589 Posted April 13, 2015 The only thread I've seen larger than this one in scale is the barney between the realism nuts and everyone else on the NA forum. In comparison this thread is very unified. You could probably use it as statistically valid polling data if you wanted to. No one wants this mod apart from lazy bads. Please just ban it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OVanBruce Alpha Tester 2,543 posts 16,031 battles Report post #590 Posted April 13, 2015 I thought that russians were the BRs of this side of the atlantic only on DOTA 2 but it seems they are the same everywhere. Not even separate servers prevent then from ruining games. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OILUP] WhiskeyWolf Beta Tester 1,491 posts 11,683 battles Report post #591 Posted April 13, 2015 Even if all the people who have voiced their hate here, they are seriously outnumbered by a/ people who have not or do not contribute to the forum b/ people who are using the mod I'm sorry, what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ISEN] AbrahaM_fighter Beta Tester 1,167 posts 10,901 battles Report post #592 Posted April 13, 2015 Absolutely - when the BB guy nails me from 20km I want to either salute a great shot or joke with them about how lucky they are - not suspect he's hit me because of a mod - I actually don't think that many players are using it - but the suspicion that they might be is further damaging chat that wasn't the world's friendliest in the first place... Personaly I think that ~10% (alpha testers who are skilled, and got big practice) of users are able to shot correctly on near maximal fire range of BB. And If I see may team decimated by several BBs in first minutes, I can't belive in such god luck and teamplay. Or I can't belive in skill/luck if I'm successfully evading fire from enemy team, but one enemy is making several critical hits, one by one. Of course lucky shots may happen, but not in row, and not in several matches... "phenomenas" like that are higly suspicious becouse of pure statistics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[E-R-A] snipershot Beta Tester 324 posts 9,404 battles Report post #593 Posted April 13, 2015 I'm sorry, what? Can i just clarify before you attack me with nonsensical posts, i have zero problems with this mod being banned/blacklisted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harry1987 Weekend Tester 22 posts Report post #594 Posted April 13, 2015 just watched some stream this morning with this mod on, this is pure easy mode... the streamer got about 10 amagi oneshots at max range with his yamato with just aiming for the x. i can hit quite well with the fuso at max range, but this would be easymode only for me considering that most bb drivers use the "i drive in a straight line with fixed speed" tactic. when turning the mod can predict that well, so there skill can make a difference, but i guess it is just a matter of time until that is "fixed" in the mod aswell. "funny" sidenote: as the mod is offical allowed by wg ru, the german thread was closed due to providing links to the mod^^(other subforums got the links still up, but hey wgeu/germany ftw) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pifkaa Beta Tester 186 posts 2,087 battles Report post #595 Posted April 13, 2015 KptStrzyga, on 12 April 2015 - 10:31 PM, said: I`ll get fully negreped for this, but what the hell. Yes, I have this mod. Yes, I`m using it. Do I like it? Nope, I don`t, but as long as this mod exists ppl will be using it, so I`ll be using it too. Untill WG states clear and loud that it is banned and they have means to deal with it (and I really hope it will be). It takes away some skill from game, it makes all BB hilariously OP, it lets you get results like this: Spoiler http://i.imgur.com/hnEUmLR.jpg http://i.imgur.com/gd5oyTs.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZTmCPxd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Oc9Ncng.jpg Was it skill? No, I`m noob. It was all this mod, knowing how to aim gives you huge advantage. But - like it or not - this mod exists, it is used, and it will be untill WG does something with it. I`m not going to handicap myself just to play fair, I`ll be using it to play fair. Because enemy BB players are using this mod, I know it for sure. And I think we all should install it ASAP because if this mod is going to be legal all game needs to be rebalanced. This is our job to give WG data to rebalance all ships. As a testers we should. Or just implement it into game, if everyone will have it, it`s not going to be unfair anymore. Don`t hate me for using this mod, I don`t set the rules, rules are by WG. They know about this mod for some time and they didn`t say anything. uhm, yeah that does explain my experience with the "crit in your face" really.. I can see for instance 25x hits (like just a few really) 5x citadel hits out of that (!!!!) and five kills (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).. how can anyone even call this CHEAT a MOD. Modders of the world should now rage, I know some project called "MODS" that have been developed over a time period of say 5 years-- that is a MOD. This is just some "APP" at best, I would still prefer the phrase CHEAT - because it is a CHEAT and also in respect to MODDERS.. Harry1987, on 13 April 2015 - 11:19 AM, said: just watched some stream this morning with this mod on, this is pure easy mode... the streamer got about 10 amagi oneshots at max range with his yamato with just aiming for the x. i can hit quite well with the fuso at max range, but this would be easymode only for me considering that most bb drivers use the "i drive in a straight line with fixed speed" tactic. when turning the mod can predict that well, so there skill can make a difference, but i guess it is just a matter of time until that is "fixed" in the mod aswell. "funny" sidenote: as the mod is offical allowed by wg ru, the german thread was closed due to providing links to the mod^^(other subforums got the links still up, but hey wgeu/germany ftw) Everything is opposite in Russia. Ukraine invaded Russia, cheats are mods, mods are cheats.. And since everything is opposite in Russia - if Russians think its ok - the rest of the world should ban it really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MOWA] Rawindra Alpha Tester 258 posts 20,639 battles Report post #596 Posted April 13, 2015 Well, I played a lot over the Weekend and I saw many people using that aimbot (and talking about using it). If that stays, I will be out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KptStrzyga Beta Tester 4,868 posts 5,014 battles Report post #597 Posted April 13, 2015 uhm, yeah that does explain my experience with the "crit in your face" really.. I can see for instance 25x hits (like just a few really) 5x citadel hits out of that (!!!!) and five kills (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).. how can anyone even call this CHEAT a MOD. Modders of the world should now rage, I know some project called "MODS" that have been developed over a time period of say 5 years-- that is a MOD. This is just some "APP" at best, I would still prefer the phrase CHEAT - because it is a CHEAT and also in respect to MODDERS.. This mod is easy to counter, don`t ever sail with one curse more than 10 seconds, change speed all the time. And watch salvos falling everywhere around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DUDS] Crooq_Lionfang Beta Tester 1,999 posts 6,434 battles Report post #598 Posted April 13, 2015 "funny" sidenote: as the mod is offical allowed by wg ru, the german thread was closed due to providing links to the mod^^(other subforums got the links still up, but hey wgeu/germany ftw) Also all further threads on the topic will be closed according to PanzerGerd, because "factually, all points have been made clear by now" Seriously....? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrumpyWorm Alpha Tester 3,274 posts 832 battles Report post #599 Posted April 13, 2015 This mod is easy to counter, don`t ever sail with one curse more than 10 seconds, change speed all the time. And watch salvos falling everywhere around. Oh yes I keep cursing them with everything that comes to my mind all the time, every few secs. - i just dont type that into chat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KptStrzyga Beta Tester 4,868 posts 5,014 battles Report post #600 Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Oh yes I keep cursing them with everything that comes to my mind all the time, every few secs. - i just dont type that into chat Hmmm... Course? How about some info from WG official? Is this mod going to banned? Or it`ll be fair and balanced and we should just install it and learn to live with it? When you think about it: captains did have firing solutions, they knew where to aim.... Edited April 13, 2015 by KptStrzyga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
