Aiming MOD Exposed!

[DBaron]

 

indeed if this thig goes on as it started you wouldnt need to do anything but launch the "game" than go to kitchen make popcorn and watch RNG win or lose the battle you and your popcorn are enjoying

 

Basically what you describe here is a Bot - its not that bad ... yet. I would love to see that particular mod go, but its not a magic superweapon. Still, I think the better course would be to stop it in its tracks sooner rather than later.

[pifkaa]

 

indeed if this thig goes on as it started you wouldnt need to do anything but launch the "game" than go to kitchen make popcorn and watch RNG win or lose the battle you and your popcorn are enjoying

 

Well we could still blame the MM for loosing.. Or not even that?

[TheDubiousDonut]

Looks like everything was said what needed to be said. We can conclude that most people here do believe that the aim mod gives an advantage if used properly. I'm certain that a poll would back up my assumption if needed. So all we can do is keep rioting to not make it appear as if we have calmed down. Torches, anyone?

[Cobra6]

All your disagreements, and personal disputes aside - please, dont start fights, because you will loose this topic and attention of devs.

After this - darkness comes..... 

 

 

Why not just remove offensive posts and keep the thread, removes the problems and keeps attention of the devs. Win - Win situation.

 

People show a genuine concern in this thread that needs to be addressed and investigated.

 

Cobra 6

[DBaron]

Looks like everything was said what needed to be said. We can conclude that most people here do believe that the aim mod gives an advantage if used properly. I'm certain that a poll would back up my assumption if needed. So all we can do is keep rioting to not make it appear as if we have calmed down. Torches, anyone?

 

[Grimdorf]

 

Why not just remove offensive posts and keep the thread, removes the problems and keeps attention of the devs. Win - Win situation.

 

People show a genuine concern in this thread that needs to be addressed and investigated.

 

Cobra 6

 

+1 for good sense.

 

I can see that WG are in a somewhat difficult position here however.....

 

They could declare the mod banned and anyone caught using it.  BUT.....they then have to be seen to enforce this, showing that they can actually detect the mod, and are actively banning users. Just saying its bannable would simply be a joke. 

And banning a mod and its users takes dev time, support time and so on, all costing real money.

Much better and easier for WG to simply downplay the effects and numbers (like they do in WoT EU) and state its "not a significant effect on the game" which no one but them can actually prove.

Any one saying it is detrimental, a cheat , etc can then be ignored and left to fanboi's and trolls to argue with.

WG spend no money and time on a probably difficult solution.

From their point of view its a win......for those players who want an honest and fair game, well tough.....you play as is or leave.

 

The above is more than likely whats going to happen, based on what has happening with cheat mods on the WoT EU server/forum , many of whose staff now run the WoWS server/forum.  So they will inevitably bring the same "we don't care about unfair mods / there's nothing we can do" attitudes here.

 

In which case I, for one, sadly will not spend a single penny on the game, and will likely stop playing after the upcoming wipe to open beta.

I don't see the point in investing too much time in yet another WG game that allows cheats (and people arguing about "how much it does or doesn't help" is just stupid, a cheat is a cheat regardless of its effectiveness)

 

Its time WG banned all mods other than purely cosmetic ones, across ALL their games.

 

[Grim_Destiny]

I`ve tried the "lead indicator" mod a couple of times now. I can honestly say it`s not a big deal.

 

It`s an aid to brand new players- experienced players will have better accuracy without it. Personally i think wargaming should implement their own "lead indicator".

 

The mod has absolutely zero impact at ranger less 12km.

 

It does have good impact at ranges above 19km, but is perfectly balanced by projectile traversal time. - If people zig zag, the benefit at extreme ranges disappears.

 

Allowing mods is great, the most interesting ones should be officially integrated.

 

It`s time people drop this panic mode and play around with the mod themselves. I`ve never felt i`ve been beaten by mod users and having played around with it for a few games, I know clearly understand what I need to do to make it worthless.

 

This is really the whole "Torpedo bombers are OP" nonsense all over again..

 

 

[Pivke]

umm this is most concerning news...

 

i see things go down the hill fast "aim assist" out already... "see through smoke and islands assist" coming soon, followed by "torpedo lines drawing assist" and various other "assist" mods. this is going to be a fun game to play.. 

 

i have been looking forward to play this game, but im not any more! i have even set aside a nice fund of money to buy some gold and premium ships, but i will vote with my wallet and took the cash somewhere else.

 

i can tolerate the cosmetic mods such as changing skins and backgrounds or changing colors of your UI. but as soon as a mod adds (or removes) something to the game, that mod becomes a cheat.

[krautjaeger]

 

+1 for good sense.

 

I can see that WG are in a somewhat difficult position here however.....

 

They could declare the mod banned and anyone caught using it.  BUT.....they then have to be seen to enforce this, showing that they can actually detect the mod, and are actively banning users. Just saying its bannable would simply be a joke. 

And banning a mod and its users takes dev time, support time and so on, all costing real money.

Much better and easier for WG to simply downplay the effects and numbers (like they do in WoT EU) and state its "not a significant effect on the game" which no one but them can actually prove.

Any one saying it is detrimental, a cheat , etc can then be ignored and left to fanboi's and trolls to argue with.

WG spend no money and time on a probably difficult solution.

From their point of view its a win......for those players who want an honest and fair game, well tough.....you play as is or leave.

 

The above is more than likely whats going to happen, based on what has happening with cheat mods on the WoT EU server/forum , many of whose staff now run the WoWS server/forum.  So they will inevitably bring the same "we don't care about unfair mods / there's nothing we can do" attitudes here.

 

In which case I, for one, sadly will not spend a single penny on the game, and will likely stop playing after the upcoming wipe to open beta.

I don't see the point in investing too much time in yet another WG game that allows cheats (and people arguing about "how much it does or doesn't help" is just stupid, a cheat is a cheat regardless of its effectiveness)

 

Its time WG banned all mods other than purely cosmetic ones, across ALL their games.

 

 

^^ This. Thing though, said before, is the people left playing this game will just download it and play with the aim-bot and it becomes an arcade ship-combat game. Emphasis on arcade. And we all know how well the word 'arcade' "sells" among those who are somewhat serious about gaming. If they lose money on it, or realize they will lose money on it, they will ban it/change their stance. Thing is, if they do that too late as in when the game already has a reputation for being an arcade shooter it will be too little, too late.

[anr96]

Jesus, even conspiration theorists arrived from WoT. For the 3rd time: despite the thousands of WoT whiners who is threatening WG with "I spend no money" and from that they visioning WG bankruptcy, they made $500M. Do you really think that a few dozens of people here gonna change the world? Actually I'm not gonna drop a single tear for people with this kind of attitude leave the game.

 

And The Knights of the Truth and Honor not tolerating "offensive" comments and thus they voting down even fair and neutral comments (not mine 'cuz I'm not neutral) like little kids.

[Snot_Shot]

I`ve tried the "lead indicator" mod a couple of times now. I can honestly say it`s not a big deal.

 

It`s an aid to brand new players- experienced players will have better accuracy without it. Personally i think wargaming should implement their own "lead indicator".

 

The mod has absolutely zero impact at ranger less 12km.

 

It does have good impact at ranges above 19km, but is perfectly balanced by projectile traversal time. - If people zig zag, the benefit at extreme ranges disappears.

 

Allowing mods is great, the most interesting ones should be officially integrated.

 

It`s time people drop this panic mode and play around with the mod themselves. I`ve never felt i`ve been beaten by mod users and having played around with it for a few games, I know clearly understand what I need to do to make it worthless.

 

This is really the whole "Torpedo bombers are OP" nonsense all over again..

 

 

 

Why are you fixated only about aiming and shooting part of this mod? Why are you so blind to see that this mod does more than help you to aim and score hits on other ships?

[sunday]

Jesus, even conspiration theorists arrived from WoT. For the 3rd time: despite the thousands of WoT whiners who is threatening WG with "I spend no money" and from that they visioning WG bankruptcy, they made $500M. Do you really think that a few dozens of people here gonna change the world? Actually I'm not gonna drop a single tear for people with this kind of attitude leave the game.

 

And The Knights of the Truth and Honor not tolerating "offensive" comments and thus they voting down even fair and neutral comments (not mine 'cuz I'm not neutral) like little kids.

 

I think you made a series of pretty well balanced, sensible posts.

[KptStrzyga]

I`ll get fully negreped for this, but what the hell.

 

Yes, I have this mod. Yes, I`m using it. Do I like it? Nope, I don`t, but as long as this mod exists ppl will be using it, so I`ll be using it too. Untill WG states clear and loud that it is banned and they have means to deal with it (and I really hope it will be).

It takes away some skill from game, it makes all BB hilariously OP, it lets you get results like this:

 http://i.imgur.com/hnEUmLR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gd5oyTs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZTmCPxd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Oc9Ncng.jpg

Was it skill? No, I`m noob. It was all this mod, knowing how to aim gives you huge advantage. 

But - like it or not - this mod exists, it is used, and it will be untill WG does something with it. 

I`m not going to handicap myself just to play fair, I`ll be using it to play fair. Because enemy BB players are using this mod, I know it for sure. 

And I think we all should install it ASAP because if this mod is going to be legal all game needs to be rebalanced. This is our job to give WG data to rebalance all ships. As a testers we should. 

Or just implement it into game, if everyone will have it, it`s not going to be unfair anymore.

 

Don`t hate me for using this mod, I don`t set the rules, rules are by WG. They know about this mod for some time and they didn`t say anything. 

[Warderer]

I`ll get fully negreped for this, but what the hell.

 

Yes, I have this mod. Yes, I`m using it. Do I like it? Nope, I don`t, but as long as this mod exists ppl will be using it, so I`ll be using it too. Untill WG states clear and loud that it is banned and they have means to deal with it (and I really hope it will be).

It takes away some skill from game, it makes all BB hilariously OP, it lets you get results like this:

 http://i.imgur.com/hnEUmLR.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gd5oyTs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZTmCPxd.jpg

Was it skill? No, I`m noob. It was all this mod, knowing how to aim gives you huge advantage. 

But - like it or not - this mod exists, it is used, and it will be untill WG does something with it. 

I`m not going to handicap myself just to play fair, I`ll be using it to play fair. Because enemy BB players are using this mod, I know it for sure. 

And I think we all should install it ASAP because if this mod is going to be legal all game needs to be rebalanced. This is our job to give WG data to rebalance all ships. As a testers we should. 

Or just implement it into game, if everyone will have it, it`s not going to be unfair anymore.

 

Don`t hate me for using this mod, I don`t set the rules, rules are by WG. They know about this mod for some time and they didn`t say anything. 

 

Ohhh my god the second picture. 

[KptStrzyga]

 

Ohhh my god the second picture. 

 

Now you see why we should all (as testers) install it?

Game needs rebalancing. Or removing this mod once and forever. 

[Warderer]

 

Now you see why we should all (as testers) install it?

Game needs rebalancing. Or removing this mod once and forever. 

 

Yes indeed. I cant imagine a BB doing so well normally. It has to be an exceptional game... very very exceptional to get close to the same score and as i think everybody on the test server will soon have this mod. That makes the beta test useless. WG cant test and recieve believable results when everybody is cheating.

[DBaron]

Jesus, even conspiration theorists arrived from WoT. For the 3rd time: despite the thousands of WoT whiners who is threatening WG with "I spend no money" and from that they visioning WG bankruptcy, they made $500M. Do you really think that a few dozens of people here gonna change the world? Actually I'm not gonna drop a single tear for people with this kind of attitude leave the game.

 

And The Knights of the Truth and Honor not tolerating "offensive" comments and thus they voting down even fair and neutral comments (not mine 'cuz I'm not neutral) like little kids.

I haven't read anything about conspiracies here, some exaggerations perhaps, which is probably related to people having concerns at the moment, which probably relates to the experiences they have made in the past, especially with WoT.

 

I would guess (assumption), that the majority of players would prefer to not have mods in that particular style implemented although they are not opposed to mods in general. But here now that group of people splits, in those that vocally raise their concerns, those that give up thinking nothing will change anyway and stop trying, then those who think if you can't beat them join them and the last group that simply looses fun and stops playing. 

 

The main concern here simple is, that the playingfield isn't the same for everyone if it stays the way its now or, if its implemented as part of the game it will be dumbed down further, removing a skill component which is desired as a measurement. Yes, I agree with you that a few people spending less money probably wont even get noticed, but you see, economy is not boosting right now and more and more people really start to consider what to spend money on and where not, personally, I definitly will spend only a fraction on WoWs than I did in WoT, simply because (although I like the game) I dont agree with the policies. The impact probably will be insignificant as a single person, but if people would always just keep doing what they always do and stop trying, we probably would still live without fire, the wheel or without most things we treasure today ... "just because it has always been that way"

 

[KptStrzyga]

That makes the beta test useless. WG cant test and recieve believable results when everybody is cheating.

No, that makes beta test even more important. 

It`s not cheating if everyone has it, and it`s not cheating if it is not against rules. So far it isn`t.

 

Now it`s WGs move, they have to decide if they ban mod or start rebalancing ships with this mod.

[fluffyfluff]

Stopped playing WoT because of XLM. Sure I want to be Arty Primary in every game. 

 

Gonna stop playing this game because of this mod too. 

[DreadArchangel]

Hopefully they'll do something about it this wek.

 

[KptStrzyga]

So where is this link for this mod then ?

 

 

Here. http://www.pkwot.blogspot.sg/2015/04/world-of-warships-aimbot-huge-thanks-to.html

 

And let`s change games name to "World of Battleships".

 

[DreadArchangel]

So this is the thing thats causing all the problems, good to know,

[Fominator]

Stopped playing WoT because of XLM. Sure I want to be Arty Primary in every game. 

 

Gonna stop playing this game because of this mod too. 

 

Now imagine a combination of both.

[ilDuca]

 

Here. http://www.pkwot.blogspot.sg/2015/04/world-of-warships-aimbot-huge-thanks-to.html

 

And let`s change games name to "World of Battleships".

 

 

So this is the big black net of mods that keeps plaguing Wargaming's games from WoT to WoWs.

Am I the only [edited] who played all this time thinking there was some kind of moderation and supervision by Wargaming?

So where I can find a fair PvP game?

[Tobblish]

I think the aiming mod is great because now you don't have to blame luck/rng when someone hits your citadel 15km+ away from you but the mod.