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Battle of Midway, 4-6 June 1942

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Since we have the anniversary... There is a nice collection of images from the battle here:

https://www.nationalreview.com/photos/battle-of-midway-ww2/

 

Among others, the pictures neatly show how misguided was the Western narrative of the battle, based almost solely on Fuchida's story (for the Japanese part) - the pictures of carriers during the B-17 attack show the decks empty, or only with few CAP fighters. The series however also demonstrates one of factors Nagumo was facing during the battle - with near constant air attacks (be it B-17s, other planes from Midway, unlucky carrier strike groups...) he literally did not have any time to spot the second strike and the delay in changing ordnance did not really play much role - flight decks needed to stay open for CAP.

 

The pictures also show that, for all intents and purposes, the Japanese carriers were fighting alone, at best with a plane guard destroyer nearby - in contrast to dense barrage visible on the pictures from the attacks on Yorktown. This helps to explain why the Japanese AA guns claimed only two US planes... And likely one Zero. It also helps to explain the surprise, as the lookouts were rather scattered.

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On 6/4/2018 at 6:37 PM, Tuccy said:

Since we have the anniversary... There is a nice collection of images from the battle here:

https://www.nationalreview.com/photos/battle-of-midway-ww2/

 

Among others, the pictures neatly show how misguided was the Western narrative of the battle, based almost solely on Fuchida's story (for the Japanese part) - the pictures of carriers during the B-17 attack show the decks empty, or only with few CAP fighters. The series however also demonstrates one of factors Nagumo was facing during the battle - with near constant air attacks (be it B-17s, other planes from Midway, unlucky carrier strike groups...) he literally did not have any time to spot the second strike and the delay in changing ordnance did not really play much role - flight decks needed to stay open for CAP.

 

The pictures also show that, for all intents and purposes, the Japanese carriers were fighting alone, at best with a plane guard destroyer nearby - in contrast to dense barrage visible on the pictures from the attacks on Yorktown. This helps to explain why the Japanese AA guns claimed only two US planes... And likely one Zero. It also helps to explain the surprise, as the lookouts were rather scattered.

@Tuccy I hope you dont mind me putting this youtube vid here.

I watched this 20 years ago and still it is one of the best documentary on the "Battle Of Midway".

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w30FkSXyTE

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By all means, add things! That is the purpose of the forum ;)

 

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On 6/4/2018 at 6:37 PM, Tuccy said:

Since we have the anniversary... There is a nice collection of images from the battle here:

https://www.nationalreview.com/photos/battle-of-midway-ww2/

 

Among others, the pictures neatly show how misguided was the Western narrative of the battle, based almost solely on Fuchida's story (for the Japanese part) - the pictures of carriers during the B-17 attack show the decks empty, or only with few CAP fighters. The series however also demonstrates one of factors Nagumo was facing during the battle - with near constant air attacks (be it B-17s, other planes from Midway, unlucky carrier strike groups...) he literally did not have any time to spot the second strike and the delay in changing ordnance did not really play much role - flight decks needed to stay open for CAP.

 

The pictures also show that, for all intents and purposes, the Japanese carriers were fighting alone, at best with a plane guard destroyer nearby - in contrast to dense barrage visible on the pictures from the attacks on Yorktown. This helps to explain why the Japanese AA guns claimed only two US planes... And likely one Zero. It also helps to explain the surprise, as the lookouts were rather scattered.

 

I don´t think you got all you facts straight. The Japanese carriers were not working alone, there were multiple destroyers and cruisers around, they are just giving space for the carriers to manuever to dodge torpedos and bombs. Also the planes onboard were refueled and rearmed below deck, so no planes would be visble on top of it whlst that was going on, it did most definitely have an impact on the sinking of the carriers. Thirdly only the 3rd wave of American planes scored hits, whilst the first 2 waves were lost with all hands without scoring a single hit. The 3rd wave overwhelmed the ship AA and the CAP were not in their proper positions to intercept, thats why they were able to break through and set 3 carriers ablaze. The remaining carrier launched an attack on Yorktown whilst a last US attack set the last carrier ablaze, due to lack of CAP since the zeros were unable to land to refuel and rearm.

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