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Thanks to the US cruiser re-shuffle, when I queue I see 150+ cruisers queuing and <10 BBs. I have to wait a few minutes to even get a game in a cruiser. So WHY and HOW are there still 5 BBs per side each game? Did they cap cruisers to 5 per side as well? When RN cruisers dropped there were 10 cruiser 1 BB 1 DD per side games. Why is that not happening now?

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no one's playing dds atm for some reason, that's the issue. the teams still need players to fill in.

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2 minutes ago, loppantorkel said:

no one's playing dds atm for some reason, that's the issue. the teams still need players to fill in.

I wonder why DDs became so rare... Might it be the flood of T8 radar boats that have radar range approximately to their detection range?

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1 minute ago, Riselotte said:

I wonder why DDs became so rare... Might it be the flood of T8 radar boats that have radar range approximately to their detection range?

No, really? What on Earth made you think that?

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Just now, Riselotte said:

Just had a hunch.

Unfortunately your hunch is almost certainly correct. Also doesn't help that a lot of these Cleveland drivers don't have a effing clue.

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It's a hard time for CV players with that many AA focused cruisers in the queue, so there probably are even less than usual. T6+ DDs that rely on concealment also aren't that fun to play right now with all that radar and hydro around, so smaller numbers here as well. BBs however even profit from this situation since they usually prey on cruisers and they don't have to worry about DDs and CVs that much right now.

 

+ Don't forget about the ongoing Indianapolis citadel mission. With that many targets floating around, taking out your BB to do the mission is quite effective.

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12 minutes ago, loppantorkel said:

no one's playing dds atm for some reason, that's the issue. the teams still need players to fill in.

 

Yes... so why aren't the missions filled with cruisers?

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4 minutes ago, Belustigungspanda said:

It's a hard time for CV players with that many AA focused cruisers in the queue, so there probably are even less than usual. T6+ DDs that rely on concealment also aren't that fun to play right now with all that radar and hydro around, so smaller numbers here as well. BBs however even profit from this situation since they usually prey on cruisers and they don't have to worry about DDs and CVs that much right now.

 

+ Don't forget about the ongoing Indianapolis citadel mission. With that many targets floating around, taking out your BB to do the mission is quite effective.

You do realize you can also score citadels on most of the cruisers using a 203mm armed CA right?Ð

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Tin Foil hat thought:

The MM actually has a rule to have 4-5 BBs a side it seems.

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3 minutes ago, lafeel said:

You do realize you can also score citadels on most of the cruisers using a 203mm armed CA right?Ð

I do, but with a BB, you currently get shorter queuing times. :Smile_teethhappy:

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1 minute ago, Belustigungspanda said:

I do, but with a BB, you currently get shorter queuing times. :Smile_teethhappy:

No doubt, but it was still a point worth raising, no.:Smile_teethhappy:

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I need 5 BBs per side to increase my avg. damage on my new shiny De Grasse :cap_haloween:

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21 minutes ago, VC381 said:

Yes... so why aren't the missions filled with cruisers?

:cap_hmm: That's true.. I kind of assumed a cap for cruisers, but I haven't heard of such... I've never seen high tier games filled with cruisers for some reason. Usually there aren't enough cruisers around, but now...? Would be nice to hear an official answer for this.

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4 minutes ago, Riselotte said:

I wonder why DDs became so rare... Might it be the flood of T8 radar boats that have radar range approximately to their detection range?

8 minutes ago, lafeel said:

Unfortunately your hunch is almost certainly correct. Also doesn't help that a lot of these Cleveland drivers don't have a effing clue.

Cleveland's radar reaches 9km for a detection range of 9.4km fully concealed, so it's slightly worse than a radar Edinburgh in that regard (400m window for trying to stealthtorp her in a DD instead of none). I agree that people are still figuring out how to play her at T8, and there's probably quite an influx of newbie players for whom the uptiered Cleveland is their first T8.

 

2 minutes ago, Belustigungspanda said:

It's a hard time for CV players with that many AA focused cruisers in the queue, so there probably are even less than usual. T6+ DDs that rely on concealment also aren't that fun to play right now with all that radar and hydro around, so smaller numbers here as well. BBs however even profit from this situation since they usually prey on cruisers and they don't have to worry about DDs and CVs that much right now.

 

+ Don't forget about the ongoing Indianapolis citadel mission. With that many targets floating around, taking out your BB to do the mission is quite effective.

Yes, it's a bit harder than usual as a CV, but not many people have specced for AA... yet. And yes, the Indianapolis mission is probably messing up, making people select either BBs or CAs in order to obtain those citadels.

 

As for now, I haven't seen a battle with more than 4 BBs per side today (first time playing after the update), but the number of DDs has certainly dwindled a bit: the usual was 2 to 3 per side, now only 1 or 2. I haven't seen a battle without them, though. Which basically means that you're assigned almost instantly (the same with CVs), while BB players have to stay in queue just a few seconds. So, if you wish not to wait for too long, carriers and destroyers (or a division with them) are the way to go.

 

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22 minutes ago, Estaca_de_Bares said:

Cleveland's radar reaches 9km for a detection range of 9.4km

 

9.1 actually.

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Don't forget ultimate balance leads to battleboat proliferation anyway.

new DD line is released -> DD numbers high -> players take cruisers to farm them -> BB players return to farm cruisers

new cruiser line is released -> cruiser number high -> BB players on the rise to farm easy damage

new BB line is released -> everyone play battleboats

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7 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Don't forget ultimate balance leads to battleboat proliferation anyway.

new DD line is released -> DD numbers high -> players take cruisers to farm them -> BB players return to farm cruisers

new cruiser line is released -> cruiser number high -> BB players on the rise to farm easy damage

new BB line is released -> everyone play battleboats

Clearly, we need RN CVs next.

 

Also, I wish Massachusetts was out. Sweet 127 mm IFHE spam. All those thin-skinned cruisers...

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4 hours ago, loppantorkel said:

:cap_hmm: That's true.. I kind of assumed a cap for cruisers, but I haven't heard of such... I've never seen high tier games filled with cruisers for some reason. Usually there aren't enough cruisers around, but now...? Would be nice to hear an official answer for this.

Well, we know for sure that both BBs and DDs are soft capped at 5 and CVs at 2 or 1 depending on the tier. It wouldn't be strange to assume that there's some glass ceiling for cruisers too. It's just that the standard cruiser population is low enough for this cap to be irrelevant.

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OMG how can there be 10 v 10 CAs!!!!!!!!!!

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Smile_trollface.gif Not that i have a problem. Citadels galore.

 

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14 minutes ago, eliastion said:

Well, we know for sure that both BBs and DDs are soft capped at 5 and CVs at 2 or 1 depending on the tier. It wouldn't be strange to assume that there's some glass ceiling for cruisers too. It's just that the standard cruiser population is low enough for this cap to be irrelevant.

 

Yup, this is what I would really like to know. I have had one nearly all-cruiser game, but as I said last time this happened (RN cruiser release, for some reason French didn't cause it) I had very frequent 8+ cruisers per side games.

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4 godziny temu, loppantorkel napisał:

no one's playing dds atm for some reason, that's the issue. the teams still need players to fill in.

This "Some reason" might be 5+ radars on the enemy team every game.

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5 hours ago, loppantorkel said:

no one's playing dds atm for some reason, that's the issue. the teams still need players to fill in.

The reason is easy to get by logic: too many radar cruisers.

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Was hoping for 2BB 10CA MM, but lack of DDs is also appreciated.

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