[STEG] chaosrealm93 Players 444 posts 7,465 battles Report post #1 Posted May 31, 2018 who else got hit with a dialog asking to confirm the new EULA when they updated to 0.7.5? like most, i just clicked accept without reading anything. did anyone actually read/know what it is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #2 Posted May 31, 2018 This is NA EULA. Someone read for EU? Is it same or changed to this? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,314 battles Report post #3 Posted May 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, chaosrealm93 said: who else got hit with a dialog asking to confirm the new EULA when they updated to 0.7.5? like most, i just clicked accept without reading anything. did anyone actually read/know what it is? Yeah, I did. It's still the EU EULA that states that WG can be sued using your native country's customer laws. 9 minutes ago, _DeathWing_ said: This is NA EULA. Someone read for EU? Is it same or changed to this? That's the new EULA for NA. They got shafted pretty hard, since now they can't criticize WG without losing their accounts. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #4 Posted May 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, Aragathor said: That's the new EULA for NA. They got shafted pretty hard, since now they can't criticize WG without losing their accounts. Yeah, already edited mine. Was curious did they do the same for EU but you already answered my question Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McMax_DK Players 4 posts 865 battles Report post #5 Posted May 31, 2018 Got it too (and accepted of course). Something different now is, that I can't connect to the server after the update. let's see what the support comes up with (posted a ticket for that). 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,314 battles Report post #6 Posted May 31, 2018 Here's a link to the EU EULA -> http://legal.eu.wargaming.net/en/eula/ The most important articles are 11 "Warranties and Liability", 12 "Applicable Jurisdiction", and 14 "NO Restriction of Consumer Rights". 2 minutes ago, McMax_DK said: Something different now is, that I can't connect to the server after the update. let's see what the support comes up with (posted a ticket for that). That's normal on patch day, it takes WG some time to restart the server. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #7 Posted May 31, 2018 Vor 4 Minuten, McMax_DK sagte: let's see what the support comes up with perhaps that you should read the patch notes? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,900 battles Report post #8 Posted May 31, 2018 That's a fairly 'interesting' clause - you can loose your account for criticising WG. I could understand if this was based on slander but just for criticising? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zzirHMS_Formidable ∞ Players 4 posts 5,073 battles Report post #9 Posted May 31, 2018 O well just have to wait Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #10 Posted May 31, 2018 edit: wrong thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[A-SLO] jure_eruj Players 235 posts Report post #11 Posted May 31, 2018 And EULA like this is the most efficient way to stop me spending my money on this game. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,370 battles Report post #12 Posted May 31, 2018 Just checking up on the clause because I think that the clause about not owning what you purchase might be a breach of some laws Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[KLUNJ] bushwacker001 [KLUNJ] Players 2,870 posts Report post #13 Posted May 31, 2018 50 minutes ago, McMax_DK said: Got it too (and accepted of course). Something different now is, that I can't connect to the server after the update. let's see what the support comes up with (posted a ticket for that). It's not something different, it is the same every patch, there is a time when the server is back up.....try reading the patch notes ffs. No wonder important tickets take so long to answer when there are piles of idiot tickets to wade through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chiledip ∞ Players 374 posts 15,384 battles Report post #14 Posted May 31, 2018 I believe it means that premiums are at risk at being directly changed. Also sounds like they are expecting dissent..... and want to stop it, Kremlin style. So what happens if you decline to agree with the EULA? I dare say that you will not be able to play at all. Sounds like you have a choice between getting your game taken away or your rights. What a shame ,thought WG was improving, but it seems not. There will be the usual 2 or 3 WG apologists that will enter the thread imminently and start to belittle people but the fact remains, this is as crooked as a 9 euro bank note. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RJCTS] Boris_MNE Players 1,568 posts 10,303 battles Report post #15 Posted May 31, 2018 Praised be Wargaming for making this beautiful game for smart people! So easy to understand that we do not need tutorials! Also their game is so realistic , take for example unique BBAP vs DD and you will see that none game have such high quality developing. I must admit, I have never ever and probably WILL NEVER find so great, realistic, awesome same game about naval. May I also add, that Premium ships are cheap? Considering other games, wargaming store is easy... CHEAP! LONG LIVE NEW EULA! 1 6 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCWVE] pzkpfwv1d Players 1,122 posts 20,370 battles Report post #16 Posted May 31, 2018 WG: - can we have some guidance on what we can say in the forum with regards to the new end user licence agreement, are we allowed to voice complaints or does everything have to go through the ticket route 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #17 Posted May 31, 2018 They might have the right to ban people for this but if they try to actually do it, the shitstorm will be quite enormous (I imagine). Regarding the ownership of our purchases - I was under the impression that I never "owned" anything in WoWS anyway. Maybe they want to give older players an incentive to buy new premium ships by nerfing old ones Which of course would be a great thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wobly_1 Players 195 posts 11,228 battles Report post #18 Posted May 31, 2018 Until they dont act as stated in new EULA everything is ok,after acting they loose in every court in EU as violations written in already in their new EULA.Exception will be Russian Federation as there are no independent court. They must rename selling-buying relationship if they want to avoid accusations of fraud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_OPC_] morgoroth Players 454 posts 17,354 battles Report post #19 Posted May 31, 2018 Criticism can get you banned. 9.3.6 the Fansite will not post material that is disparaging, illegal or infringes on the rights of any third party or that damages (or that might damage) the reputation of Wargaming or of any of the Games; 9.4 If you fail to comply with any of the terms set out in this section, we reserve the right to terminate your license over the Fansite Content and also to close your Account. XAXAXA, welcom back to CCCP ... hell Stalin is laughing in his grave and looks like NKVD / KGB are still fine ... waiting for a clause to freely shoot players in the back of the head. WG, how about full refund for damage caused to my sanity? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #20 Posted May 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, morgoroth said: Criticism can get you banned. 9.3.6 the Fansite will not post material that is disparaging, illegal or infringes on the rights of any third party or that damages (or that might damage) the reputation of Wargaming or of any of the Games; 9.4 If you fail to comply with any of the terms set out in this section, we reserve the right to terminate your license over the Fansite Content and also to close your Account. XAXAXA, welcom back to CCCP ... hell Stalin is laughing in his grave and looks like NKVD / KGB are still fine ... waiting for a clause to freely shoot players in the back of the head. WG, how about full refund for damage to my sanity? Well, in Russia far worse can happen to you for spreading "gay propaganda" I think the new EULA is a nice cross between RU and US mentality! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dCK_Ad_Hominem Players 1,176 posts 5,859 battles Report post #21 Posted May 31, 2018 Yep. That is another Jimquisition video in the making. Then again hardly anything changed. Every eula since wots launch has Clearly stated that you only own a revocable licence to premium tanks and that gold etc aren't refundable. It is also obvious you don't own any ship because then everyone could just claim possession and sue everyone else for it. The ban part is where the brown wind shall originate from. As well as the revoking of licences to use the content to make money (wg had made a general statement before that allowed everyone who wanted to use the content in this way). @MrConway this is going to be one heck of a mess should it apply to EU as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[_OPC_] morgoroth Players 454 posts 17,354 battles Report post #22 Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, aboomination said: Well, in Russia far worse can happen to you for spreading "gay propaganda" Well, after all Russia is not a country ... it is a state of mind :P 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PINZ] THE_GREEN_SCORPION Players 3 posts 23,568 battles Report post #23 Posted May 31, 2018 ANYONE HAS PROBLEMS CONNECTING TO GAME??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONI] MoveZig Players 1,622 posts 20,823 battles Report post #24 Posted May 31, 2018 Meh, I don't pay much attention to game EULAs. Why? Because theoretically, WG can ban you for anything they want, they have that right. Obviously if they abuse it, regardless of what it says in the EULA, they'll have a PR ****storm that they'll back out of. Not to mention most players wouldn't take an unjust ban to court, too expensive and uncertain. So I see the company-player relationship as more tacit than anything that's written in the EULA. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #25 Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, THE_GREEN_SCORPION said: ANYONE HAS PROBLEMS CONNECTING TO GAME??? No play on patch day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites