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USS Monaghan in Preview [WiP]

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shot-18.05.18_15.17.48-0581.jpgUSS Monaghan in Preview - A weird attempt at a torpedo boat?
 

Unfortunately, WG removed my beautiful red font. So we'll do it in white (or black, or whatever it is for your forum style). As always very work in progress, thing's are subject to change! Take everything you read here with a grain (or pinch) of salt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A bit of history


USS Monaghan was stationed in Pearl Harbor in December 1941. On the morning of December 7, she was to rally up with USS Ward - a Wickes class destroyer.  Ward was on patrol and had made contact and disabled a submarine. Shortly before Monaghan could set out, however, Japanese planes came pouring in. While Monaghan engaged the air targets, she was notified of second midget submarine entering the harbor. Monaghan went to engage it, dodged a torpedo and then rammed the Ko-hyo, proceeding to drop depth charges on her. The explosions of the depth charges lunged Monaghan's stern into the air, catapulting the destroyer in a nearby barge. Damage sustained was minor, and she continued on her way.
 

 

The ship

 

Monaghan has received a few changes since the last time we got to test her. At first she was... Just a Farragut, then she was a Farragut missing her aft guns for some extra Bofors. Now she's a Farragut that's missing her aft guns, with a torpedo reload booster. Now doesn't that sound interesting?

Alright, the matter isn't as trivial. I'll split this preview into 2 sections, seeing as Monaghan has 2 completely polar opposite hulls going for her.

A Hull

A Hull is basically Monaghan the way she was first introduced. In this form, Monaghan receives 13900 hitpoints, the standard 5' guns you'd find on most USN DDs in her bracket, an AA suite consisting of Oerlikons and DP guns. She has stock torpedoes with damage lingering around the 12k mark (64kn, 1.3km detectability, 87s reload).

B Hull
This is where things get interesting. Monaghan drops 2 of her guns for extra AA. instead of the usual 127mm main armament, Monaghan gets some extra 40mm Bofors mounts. These work to improve Defensive AA's output, but you won't be running defensive AA for a simple reason: B Hull benson has access to USS Benson's torpedoes. 55kn, 1.1km detection, 17k damage. Only one downside, it's the reload: 120 seconds. This is why you wil want to be running the TRB, which mind you, is a little different to the one you might be used to from the IJN destroyers.

 

To summarize, we have a Hull that is basically a Farragut with one less gun, and we have a Hull that has superior AA, but completely lacks gun-power. Mounting the B hull makes no sense without the upgraded torpedoes, since the AA improvement is not significant to warrant taking out 50% of your batteries.
 


Consumable Choice:


You have access to a non-standard US smoke, The usual engine boost, and the choice between either Defensive AA or TRB.
The problem is, with the A hull, Defensive AA only affects your DP, since you don't have Bofors mounts OR HAC. This leaves basically only the Panic, since the damage output is rather low - To put it into perspective, Hatsuharu's (yes, the Japanese destroyer) AA output comes close to Monaghan with Def AA (In raw stat numbers).

With the B hull, you'll want to be running the Benson torpedoes, which means that the TRB is almost a must - seeing as it is your sole damage output, and 120s is a long time..
 

My recommendation:

  • Either play it as a Farragut with TRB and one less gun, (A Hull, TRB)
  • Play it full torpedo spec B hull (AR, SI, TAE, CE maybe even TA)

Both options are viable, the former being more "reliable", the latter offering more interesting gameplay.

  • [EXTRA] With the decent AA suite on the B hull, you could even opt to use it as a carrier division destroyer (lots and lots of Bofors!), this will however really bite into your combat effectiveness.
Spoiler

[disclaimer: why I don't talk about modifications]

For most ships in the lower brackets, I either don't run any modifications, or the choice is so obvious that I forget to mention it. Since there is no clear "go for this" choice in this matter, I just leave it out. You don't get the 2m slot and you don't get the 3m slot, therefore the choice is entirely up to you (added to that, most of the time these don't have a too significant change on how the ship plays out)

 

Games:
I compiled a few screenshots and one match in the Monaghan.

 

Fig. 1: Monaghan in standard setup (A hull, standard 10pt commander build)

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As expected, Monaghan performs much like a Farragut in the standard setup, but loses out on an American smoke. She does however get the TRB, or DefAA while still retaining her engine boost.

 

Fig. 2: Monaghan in torpedo build, accelerated torps (B hull, 19pt commander setup)

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In this setup, Monaghan has a decent stealth fire window, very competitive torpedoes, but unfortunately no real gun performance, the only real use for these guns is to finish of enemies (not unlike Mutsuki or Minekaze).

 

Video: Monaghan with a 10pt captain, b-hull (the video speaks for itself, there is a little bit of explanation at the start and towards the end)

 

 


 

Conclusion:
Monaghan was refreshing. You know, the ship's a bit like an unfinished tech demo of a game, that somehow still manages to captivate you for multiple hours. The drawbacks are quite clear with the ship, but regardless, I feel inclined to try to make the ship work. Take note here please that I am now referring to the B hull Monaghan, seeing as the A hull is pretty "bland" in comparison (aka it brings no real new things to the table).
I know it's not very competitive, or good for padding your winrate, but it brings me back to a time where I played silly ships for their unique gameplay - like the Katori - and not for their statpadability. I don't want Monaghan to be the next sealclubber down at tier 6. That being said, with good management the Monaghan can and will ruin an enemy vessel's day.


So can I recommend it? That depends on what you're out for, it's definitely unique, but like I stated above, it's not a ship that will be super competitive. If Monaghan stays this way, she'll be a jar of Marmite, some will love her for her uniqueness, some will love her for her collection value. Others will just despise the way she plays.

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Nice review but I definitely won't buy it. I prefer Farragut 5 guns to Monaghan A hull and B hull is so repulsive to me as totally unhistorical. There were so many classes between Farragut at T6 and Benson at T8, and many of them had some additional choices due wartime modification. Yet WG decided to choose Monaghan with totally fictional B hull. It may be good but I don't like idea behind it.

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That ship was gimmicked to death by WG, not going to support such attempts with money.

But thanks for the preview!

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Damn that camo looks sexy! :cap_look:

Sadly this Ship is, from what i read, after the Z-39 the second DD I am absolutly not interested in.....  WG is slacking recently.....:Smile_sceptic:

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13 minutes ago, Miessa3 said:

WG is slacking recently...

They aren't slacking, they just returned to their true level of competence. WG is really bad at balancing ships and since they have run out of ideas, they try to squeeze the last penny by introducing ahistorical gimmicks.

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Well, the second hull might be interesting to play, I guess (even if I *still* can't make slow torps work for me).

One of the advantages of being rubbish at the game is that the effective difference between a decent ship, and a poor one, is rather less than for a competent player...

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1 hour ago, Boris_MNE said:

Big NO for ship herself. Useless.

 

YOU Sir should be ashamed to call yourself an Asashio-main...

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6 hours ago, Verblonde said:


One of the advantages of being rubbish at the game is that the effective difference between a decent ship, and a poor one, is rather less than for a competent player...

I think this goes both ways. Good players will have a hard time finding a really bad ship, since they will perform decently in most ships.

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5 minutes ago, Strefs said:

I think this goes both ways. Good players will have a hard time finding a really bad ship, since they will perform decently in most ships.

It's only average joes like me, who suffer through bad ships. :cap_old:

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8 hours ago, fumtu said:

Monaghan A hull and B hull is so repulsive to me as totally unhistorical

 

A hull is the historic 1942 refit.

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20 minutes ago, creamgravy said:

A hull is the historic 1942 refit.

 

I know, I was saying that B hull is not historical but WG fiction upgrade and that I prefer Farragut with 5 guns to Monaghan historical A hull with just 4. Maybe my sentence wasn't formulated correctly.

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2 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

I know, I was saying that B hull is not historical but WG fiction upgrade and that I prefer Farragut with 5 guns to Monaghan historical A hull with just 4. Maybe my sentence wasn't formulated correctly.

Fair play, the wack job B hull will do that to a person. :cap_haloween:

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