Super Containers Premium ships distribution

[spcapten]

Hi, I want to address an issue with the frequency one can get premium ships from containers (Christmas and Super ones a like). I have a friend who has played 1/3 of the battles I have played but has managed to get 28 premium ships from containers and those are just the ones he kept. If we count also the duplicates he got then its more than 50! Just to get an image, he received Okhotnik 6x times in total! Jut 3 days ago he got Abruzzi from a container and yesterday Z-39, for which I payed 29€.  Me for instance, I have bought more than 300 containers of all types through those two years and never received a single premium ship. Not even a duplicate one. I have 90% of the premium ships you could acquire in the game bought, having spend a remarkable amount of money which I dont regret. Now we have the same account value, with him having payed less than 1/10 from what I have spent in money. But nevertheless I just wanted to ask, isn't it a bit frustrating with the current ''luck/''''lottery'' mechanism to have such extremities? I mean wouldn't it be better instead of having supper happy & supper angry players to have a mechanism of some equal distribution of those gifts? I think it would be better if 50 players would get one premium ship from a container than just one player getting 50 premium ships in the same way. Thank you.

[Akula971]

Never ever had a ship from an in game super container. I've had boat loads (pun intended) from the Santa ones and store bought ones,

[MrWastee]

ok, 2 points....

- christmas containers are different afaik in that regard from the normal ones u collect up to 3 a day (and that's good!)

- u buy a container u know what u get: in doubt nothing!

 

... my hint: never buy anything in this game than x-mas containers and t10 prem camo and u'll be fine allaround ;). in my case, i dropped some last x-mas and got ships for est. 10€/one. on top like a year of prem, a sh*tload of camos and sigs +dubs....

 

u decide what u buy, u get what u paid. u can't blame him for having luck when u simply decide u want the dedicated stuff. it's like gambling on ebay for the lower price or simply pay more to instantly get it imo. as for me, i won't buy anything until next x-mas and save up till then.

[Bmsrt]

Only got a De Grasse,and even that one was some event Supercontainer not a regular one,thats it.

(and a Atago from the 2016 Cristhmas thingie)

[loppantorkel]

Never received a ship from a container. ..I don't think I have at least.. I don't mind, I don't care.

[spcapten]

10 minutes ago, MrWastee said:

ok, 2 points....

- christmas containers are different afaik in that regard from the normal ones u collect up to 3 a day (and that's good!)

- u buy a container u know what u get: in doubt nothing!

 

... my hint: never buy anything in this game than x-mas containers and t10 prem camo and u'll be fine allaround ;). in my case, i dropped some last x-mas and got ships for est. 10€/one. on top like a year of prem, a sh*tload of camos and sigs +dubs....

 

u decide what u buy, u get what u paid. u can't blame him for having luck when u simply decide u want the dedicated stuff. it's like gambling on ebay for the lower price or simply pay more to instantly get it imo. as for me, i won't buy anything until next x-mas and save up till then.

Dont get me wrong, I am not criticising the lack of guarantee to earn something if the parameter of luck is involved in something you buy. I own almost all of the prems, I am not someone who waits for Christmas to get a premium ship he wants by containers but buys it when it gets offered in the shop (unfortunately no other way to acquire a Gremy or Nikolai though) . I am just negatively impressed about the extremities of that prem ships give away distribution, even with normal super containers in the daily carrousel. I think you would agree that getting 60 prems in such a way is extrem when others with same or even more theoretical chance get none. 

[Aragathor]

My only non-santa container ship was the Krispy Kreme, just as I was about to buy one.

I agree that the SCs could be a bit more balanced, but they are a free lottery where you get them by playing the game.

[bushwacker001]

54 minutes ago, spcapten said:

Hi, I want to address an issue with the frequency one can get premium ships from containers (Christmas and Super ones a like). I have a friend who has played 1/3 of the battles I have played but has managed to get 28 premium ships from containers and those are just the ones he kept. If we count also the duplicates he got then its more than 50! Just to get an image, he received Okhotnik 6x times in total! Jut 3 days ago he got Abruzzi from a container and yesterday Z-39, for which I payed 29€.  Me for instance, I have bought more than 300 containers of all types through those two years and never received a single premium ship. Not even a duplicate one. I have 90% of the premium ships you could acquire in the game bought, having spend a remarkable amount of money which I dont regret. Now we have the same account value, with him having payed less than 1/10 from what I have spent in money. But nevertheless I just wanted to ask, isn't it a bit frustrating with the current ''luck/''''lottery'' mechanism to have such extremities? I mean wouldn't it be better instead of having supper happy & supper angry players to have a mechanism of some equal distribution of those gifts? I think it would be better if 50 players would get one premium ship from a container than just one player getting 50 premium ships in the same way. Thank you.

I think someone is telling porkies to you. 

[spcapten]

10 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said:

I think someone is telling porkies to you. 

Didn't believe him too in the beginning but when he continued having this luck I was seeing also his player stats and what ships he was acquiring and it was on days those premiums he was getting that they were not on sale in the shop. He became a legend in our Clan. The majority he got from santa boxes but still theoretically you have the same chance of winning a ship with a santa box or when getting a normal in game super container. I am not referring here to the frequency of getting supper containers in the daily lottery but when he gets them every second he opens is a ship...

[dCK_Ad_Hominem]

Got an Anshan back when scs were dropping more regularly. 

 

I don't really care for the majority of the ships. Would only be interested in t8 dds not named Asashio or z39. 

 

What should be addressed though are the flags. Why not add 25 of every non economic flag as an option? 

[Aragathor]

2 minutes ago, spcapten said:

The majority he got from santa boxes but still theoretically you have the same chance of winning a ship with a santa box or when getting a normal in game super container.

That's not right. Santa boxes have a higher chance of dropping ships. Last year the Santa containers had a finite list of premiums one could get, including premiums removed permanently from sale. Also Santa boxes have a limited list for other rewards, so the chance of getting crap was lowered.

My Santa haul was 12 premiums last year, compare this to almost 1,5 years of play and only 1 SC ship drop.

[lup3s]

4 minutes ago, Aragathor said:

That's not right. Santa boxes have a higher chance of dropping ships. Last year the Santa containers had a finite list of premiums one could get, including premiums removed permanently from sale. Also Santa boxes have a limited list for other rewards, so the chance of getting crap was lowered.

My Santa haul was 12 premiums last year, compare this to almost 1,5 years of play and only 1 SC ship drop.

 

My experience with Santa crates and SCs can confirm this.

Over half the Premium ships I own came from Santa crates (not a single one from SCs).

[Profilus]

I even doubt that z39 is in supercontainers yet. But im sure im wrong.

[Exocet6951]

Like other people on this thread, I've only ever dropped ONE premium ship in an SC (Santa box or not) and that was the other day on the test server 

[Gnirf]

7 minutes ago, spcapten said:

Hi, I want to address an issue with the frequency one can get premium ships from containers (Christmas and Super ones a like). I have a friend who has played 1/3 of the battles I have played but has managed to get 28 premium ships from containers and those are just the ones he kept. If we count also the duplicates he got then its more than 50! Just to get an image, he received Okhotnik 6x times in total! Jut 3 days ago he got Abruzzi from a container and yesterday Z-39, for which I payed 29€.  Me for instance, I have bought more than 300 containers of all types through those two years and never received a single premium ship. Not even a duplicate one. I have 90% of the premium ships you could acquire in the game bought, having spend a remarkable amount of money which I dont regret. Now we have the same account value, with him having payed less than 1/10 from what I have spent in money. But nevertheless I just wanted to ask, isn't it a bit frustrating with the current ''luck/''''lottery'' mechanism to have such extremities? I mean wouldn't it be better instead of having supper happy & supper angry players to have a mechanism of some equal distribution of those gifts? I think it would be better if 50 players would get one premium ship from a container than just one player getting 50 premium ships in the same way. Thank you.

Your friend is simply lying, Z39 is not possible to get in SC. He just teases you. It is simply not possible to have that kind of luck, but if he spends hundreds of EUR in Santas gifts you have a decent drop rate, I have got 10 or so but it has cost a lot incl, Gremy and Nikolai. Of the 70-80 or so SCs from TYL/ daily drops zero (0). From other mission supercontainers also zero.

 

But your friend I do not believe UNLESS nearly all comes from santas gifts en masse.

[bushwacker001]

14 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

Your friend is simply lying, Z39 is not possible to get in SC. He just teases you. It is simply not possible to have that kind of luck, but if he spends hundreds of EUR in Santas gifts you have a decent drop rate, I have got 10 or so but it has cost a lot incl, Gremy and Nikolai. Of the 70-80 or so SCs from TYL/ daily drops zero (0). From other mission supercontainers also zero.

 

But your friend I do not believe UNLESS nearly all comes from santas gifts en masse.

Agree......I looked up his ships, looks like he has spent a load on santa boxes due to the dates of getting them but BS'ing you as he probably gets a stiffy from winding you and others up on TS.

[Hades_warrior]

2 hours ago, MrWastee said:

ok, 2 points....

- christmas containers are different afaik in that regard from the normal ones u collect up to 3 a day (and that's good!)

- u buy a container u know what u get: in doubt nothing!

 

... my hint: never buy anything in this game than x-mas containers and t10 prem camo and u'll be fine allaround ;). in my case, i dropped some last x-mas and got ships for est. 10€/one. on top like a year of prem, a sh*tload of camos and sigs +dubs....

 

u decide what u buy, u get what u paid. u can't blame him for having luck when u simply decide u want the dedicated stuff. it's like gambling on ebay for the lower price or simply pay more to instantly get it imo. as for me, i won't buy anything until next x-mas and save up till then.

Not even buying Santa' boxes wont make everyone happy. Actually, it end up frustrating offen, because of fact you dont get nothing great but you spend a lot of money as those boxes are pure RNG and great rewards are rare to loot.

I tryed that few times so far and I wont spend any more cent on those boxes or any other.

Only thing I pay in this game is perma camo for T8-10 ships, few times 30-days Premium time, and using some events from time to time when there are discounts on 50x Camos with good benefits.

I dont have much Premium ships (7 I think) but most of them I got for free via missions or other benefit ways. Only Premium ship I ''half bought'' is Missouri, and Dunkirque.

[spcapten]

13 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said:

Agree......I looked up his ships, looks like he has spent a load on santa boxes due to the dates of getting them but BS'ing you as he probably gets a stiffy from winding you and others up on TS.

How did you looked up his ships? I didnt even mentioned his name...

[bushwacker001]

2 minutes ago, spcapten said:

How did you looked up his ships? I didnt even mentioned his name...

19 members in your clan...you said 28 prem ships and a third of your battles played.....easy.

[IamTroublemaker]

0 ships from SCs (even since they introduced them, every day i get all 3 containers) while there are people who got multiple prem ships, and from 50+ santa container 1 ship (Okhotnik), while I know people who opened 10 containers and got 3-4 prem ships, it is all about luck aka rng

[Humorpalanta]

In game SCs never any ship. Not even when SCs were a thing. Nowadays I'm happy if I see one SC in 3 months.

[Prospect_b]

1 ship from an ingame SC (degrasse)

 

buttload of ships from the santa crates

[bushwacker001]

5 minutes ago, Troublemaker_CRO said:

0 ships from SCs (even since they introduced them, every day i get all 3 containers) while there are people who got multiple prem ships, and from 50+ santa container 1 ship (Okhotnik), while I know people who opened 10 containers and got 3-4 prem ships, it is all about luck aka rng

only one ship from SC's and that was this week, a murmansk....the first prem I bought as a novice and sold it a good 18 months ago thru not needing it.  

[spcapten]

13 minutes ago, bushwacker001 said:

19 members in your clan...you said 28 prem ships and a third of your battles played.....easy.

Smart boy  

 

But the Abruzzi as an example, was it still on sale on Thursday?

[BeauNidl3]

2 hours ago, lup3s said:

 

My experience with Santa crates and SCs can confirm this.

Over half the Premium ships I own came from Santa crates (not a single one from SCs).

 

Much the same here. had a nice variety from the last Christmas boxes and I've never had one from a Supercontainer, not that I've had many Supercontainers even though most days I open 3 containers.