How to maximize secondary hits per match as cruiser main?

[CptLt_Andre]

Hello and ahoi!

 

With which of the following ships can i archive the most secondary hits per match?

 

 

Any ideas or suggestions?

 

Fair sea and good luck

[Tyrendian89]

Simply put: none of them.

[FishDogFoodShack]

None of them are particularly good for secondary hits, ESPECIALLY without a secondary-specific build for them, which on any cruiser would be pretty insane. Your best bet honestly would be to jump into co-op matches with all of them. Rush in, get some hits, die probably, then jump into the next and repeat.

 

 

I have to say though, even doing this would take a painfully long time, I know I'd get bored doing it. Without a t8+ battleship, you should weigh how much your time is worth to you. The german captain from these missions is nice with his free 10 points, but his bonuses are not particularly useful for any german ships imho. Just saying if you decide to skip this last stretch, you won't be missing too much.

[Prospect_b]

1 minute ago, Tyrendian89 said:

Simply put: none of them.

You discard the kiev that fast? Yee of little faith.

[Tyrendian89]

Just now, PzychoPanzer said:

You discard the kiev that fast? Yee of little faith.

shhh... I've done a Kiev versus Kiev 1v1 secondaries (or Secondary, in this case) only battle in a training room. Only took ten minutes...

 

Although, to be a little bit more helpful than my first post, while those ships are all really really bad for the job, the least-bad is probably a well-played Edinburgh I would guess, simply because of the smoke... still not going to get you a relevant amount of secondary hits any time soon, but...

[loppantorkel]

I'd pick the New Orleans full ruddershift build, surprise a bb from behind an island and sail circles around him. Report your progress afterwards please.

[Commander_Cornflakes]

Kiev is best cruiser on your pic. Can't be citadelled at close range so it must have something like turtleback armor. Perfect for brawling with secondary.

[StringWitch]

I get secondary hits in Perth relatively often (helps she has a longer 5.3km base range for no apparent reason, but I think it's primarily the smoke), so Edinburgh might be the best bet.

 

 

23 minutes ago, FishDogFoodShack said:

None of them are particularly good for secondary hits, ESPECIALLY without a secondary-specific build for them, which on any cruiser would be pretty insane.

Secondaries Cleveland is pretty satisfying, like welding Atlantas to the sides.

[Prospect_b]

15 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

shhh... I've done a Kiev versus Kiev 1v1 secondaries (or Secondary, in this case) only battle in a training room. Only took ten minutes...

 

Although, to be a little bit more helpful than my first post, while those ships are all really really bad for the job, the least-bad is probably a well-played Edinburgh I would guess, simply because of the smoke... still not going to get you a relevant amount of secondary hits any time soon, but...

Yea, Eddy secondaries are quite reasonable as well.

 

Also, what the hell happened with you guys in kots? I saw your game. Did you just go in for the ro32 rewards and went for a break after that?

[Major_Damage225]

DM specced in AA and secondarys, you be surprised at the ammount of shells that start flying when you pop radar, it dose however requiresome smoke asistance from a DD for best effect 

 

Since were talking secondarys on cruisers, anyone get a close quarters with the Yubari? 

[EdiJo]

 

Very good player, cruiser much more suitable for secondaries than those OP mentioned, top tier in the game, good game result (scored 2nd), played very aggressively, in his 10 minute game had 126 hits from secondaries (319 fired), so good accuracy .....

and ... 6.7k dmg plus 4 fires giving 2.9k 

Of course did not survive.

Looks like totally worthless build?

 

[Jethro_Grey]

Specc the french ca for full secondary build, sail towards the nearest BB and Start kiting him and keep the range to him at ~3km. 

 

 

[Prospect_b]

45 minutes ago, Jethro_Grey said:

Specc the french ca for full secondary build, sail towards the nearest BB and Start kiting him and keep the range to him at ~3km. 

 

 

[aboomination]

Could be done with a secondary build on the Roon in Co-Op.

[Sargento_YO]

Currently I play Algerie with secondary weapons maxxed out. I use this ship mainly as a dd hunter and I have lots of fun with it.
Once I had to deal with a Maas and a Yorck. I set the secondaries on the maas keeing him at bay while I used the main guns on the Yorck, I managed to kill the cruiser, by the time I aimed my guns to the dd I realized I took out half of his life (8000 hp). I took him as well.

 

ALso I play Pensacola with secondaries maxxed out, but mainly on scenarios.

 

Now, with the cruisers change I look forward to use the Cleveland with this configuration (Secondaries maxxed out, manual secondaries AND manual aa fire)

[Panocek]

I assume getting Scharnhorst, Derpitz or free exping up to Bismarck is out of question?

[Affeks]

Moskva gets up to 9.83km... Fun when you radar DDs 

 

Also when I grinded Roon I used manual secondaries, secondary mod and flag (skipped aft). So that secondary range was just enough to be longer than hydro range. Roon only has one main gun fore, so getting that extra secondaries to shoot at DDs when you rush their smoke and want to evade torps actually helped. I wouldnt say its competitive, but tons of fun. To bad Hburg has absolute garbage secondaries.

 

Last option imo is Atago, you reach up to 8.3 km and with decent armor, heal, torps and really good stealth, they arent half bad (for a cruiser). Not competitive, but fun when you need that little extra to deal with DDs.

 

Saint-Louis is a cool machine gun secondary ship, but its pretty squish and has pretty bad armor.

[aboomination]

9 minutes ago, Panocek said:

I assume getting Scharnhorst, Derpitz or free exping up to Bismarck is out of question?

fxping Roon would be cheaper.

[Exocet6951]

Baltimore with AA spec works surprisingly well with secondaries. The surprise being that it can actually do something other than fire off into the distance with the shell never to be seen again.

It's not transcendent, but I've gotten a few close quarters combat medals with it killing DDs.
I've even switched target on the main guns before a DD was killed to get a head start because I knew that the DD in question was almost dead, of no immediate threat, and that it would die in the next couple of second.

That being said, specifically specc'ing secondaries on cruisers is more of a drunken lolbuild than anything.

If you're in secondary range, you're in torpedo and fun and engaging citadel diddling range.

[Verblonde]

1 hour ago, Panocek said:

I assume getting Scharnhorst, Derpitz or free exping up to Bismarck is out of question?

Isn't Scharnhorst a T7 (so not eligible)?

[GeneralSavage]

Cleveland (T6) actually has awesome secondaries even without BFT or AFT. Can expect the same for the T8 version too because it's the same layout. I've got a decent stash of CQE medals with her. Note that this was vs DDs and cruisers. Think Edin and Hipper have decent secondaries as well. And of course, the Kiev.

[Yedwy]

I did it in derpitz in coop in like 5-6 battles if it absolutley has to bi one of these i guess edinbourg or zao

[GhostRiderMax123]

Secondary build cruisers.....why?

 

 

[Fat_Maniac]

3 minutes ago, GhostRider_24 said:

Secondary build cruisers.....why?

 

 

You beat me too it. But seriously why?

[Panocek]

34 minutes ago, Fat_Maniac said:

You beat me too it. But seriously why?

Why not