[FURMO] A_useless_noob Players 98 posts 9,685 battles Report post #1 Posted May 18, 2018 As a newish player I would like to thank WG's missions design team. 10 point captian as mission reward great, tier 5 needed OK. 4 part mission OK, part 1 done. Part 2 tier six needed errrr OK, Part 3 tier 7 WTF. If I had a tier 7 ship I would already have a 10 point captain. What next tier 8 ? if the required ships are higher, the reward needs to be higher. The tier of shp needed to complete the mission marathon, should be made clear at the start. Waste of customers time and effort. 3 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishDogFoodShack Players 685 posts 5,858 battles Report post #2 Posted May 18, 2018 Part 4 does indeed need t8-10 ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FURMO] A_useless_noob Players 98 posts 9,685 battles Report post #3 Posted May 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, FishDogFoodShack said: Part 4 does indeed need t8-10 ships. I stopped grinding USN to do this mission, waste of my time. should have been made clear at the start. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yogibjoern Players 471 posts 2,535 battles Report post #4 Posted May 18, 2018 Its actual much easier to get this special commander than the IJN one.. If you want him you'll need T-VIII-X ships as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,326 battles Report post #5 Posted May 18, 2018 We are returning to the old mission system, where you need to fulfill stupid requirements to get a paltry reward. I remember getting Jack Dunkirk from a collection that was gathered by playing a nice operation with ships WG gave us. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #6 Posted May 18, 2018 35 minutes ago, A_useless_noob said: As a newish player I would like to thank WG's missions design team. 10 point captian as mission reward great, tier 5 needed OK. 4 part mission OK, part 1 done. Part 2 tier six needed errrr OK, Part 3 tier 7 WTF. If I had a tier 7 ship I would already have a 10 point captain. What next tier 8 ? if the required ships are higher, the reward needs to be higher. Tier 7 and 8 are only a high requirement for new players (at least for those who don't buy a tier 8 ship right from the get-go). You want to play missions for higher tiers? Play more and reach higher tiers (or take the shortcut via money which I don't recommend). And no, just because you reached tier 8 (or 9 or 10), doesn't mean you don't need 10 points captains anymore. They are good if you start new lines/nations or if you want to keep ships and need a captain for them. Furthermore, this is a special one with bonuses on certain skills so even if you had every KM ship and a 19p captain for every ship, it would still be worth it to get this one and level him if you want to optimize a ship. 10 points are more than enough for a new captain, even (or rather especially?) with those mission requirements. Quote The tier of shp needed to complete the mission marathon, should be made clear at the start. Waste of customers time and effort. Here you go: https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/premshop/never-going-to-get-to-franz/ Also, if I am not mistaken you should be able to see the mission requirements when you hover your mouse over the bars in the mission window. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #7 Posted May 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, Aragathor said: We are returning to the old mission system, where you need to fulfill stupid requirements to get a paltry reward. I remember getting Jack Dunkirk from a collection that was gathered by playing a nice operation with ships WG gave us. Admittedly I have a good range of ships at multiple tiers so I don't have the problem that @A_useless_noob had, but I finished the whole mission chain in about 3 hours, played mostly in COOP so quick games. You don't have to play in German ships, you can do it in any nation. The thing about the mission giving a German commander (which is pretty obvious from the reward) is even if you don't currently play German ships, when you do you will have a 10 point German Captain ready to put on the ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #8 Posted May 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, A_useless_noob said: I stopped grinding USN to do this mission, waste of my time. should have been made clear at the start. One could have looked up the mission description.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #9 Posted May 18, 2018 OP: FWIW if you have the slightest tendency towards being a collector (defined as keeping almost any silver ship ever), you will always need more captains, almost regardless of where you are in the grind... That said, i wouldn't get too upset if you don't manage to bag this one - there will be others along in the future (plus, you can bag one or two from Operations, although they recently got a lot harder). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FURMO] A_useless_noob Players 98 posts 9,685 battles Report post #10 Posted May 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Tungstonid said: Tier 7 and 8 are only a high requirement for new players (at least for those who don't buy a tier 8 ship right from the get-go). You want to play missions for higher tiers? Play more and reach higher tiers (or take the shortcut via money which I don't recommend). And no, just because you reached tier 8 (or 9 or 10), doesn't mean you don't need 10 points captains anymore. They are good if you start new lines/nations or if you want to keep ships and need a captain for them. Furthermore, this is a special one with bonuses on certain skills so even if you had every KM ship and a 19p captain for every ship, it would still be worth it to get this one and level him if you want to optimize a ship. 10 points are more than enough for a new captain, even (or rather especially?) with those mission requirements. Here you go: https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/premshop/never-going-to-get-to-franz/ Also, if I am not mistaken you should be able to see the mission requirements when you hover your mouse over the bars in the mission window. You should be able too, but you can't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #11 Posted May 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, A_useless_noob said: You should be able too, but you can't Ok, apparently it shows everything BUT the tier requirement... Still, you could (and should) have looked at the news for detailed information. So it is not WGs "fault" (if you want to call it that). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FURMO] A_useless_noob Players 98 posts 9,685 battles Report post #12 Posted May 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tungstonid said: Ok, apparently it shows everything BUT the tier requirement... Still, you could (and should) have looked at the news for detailed information. So it is not WGs "fault" (if you want to call it that). The mission requirements, should be displayed ingame in the mission description. @BeauNidl3 Admittedly I have a good range of ships at multiple tiers so I don't have the problem that @A_useless_noob had, but I finished the whole mission chain in about 3 hours, played mostly in COOP so quick games. You don't have to play in German ships, you can do it in any nation. Really ? it says in mission description german ships only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #13 Posted May 18, 2018 1 hour ago, A_useless_noob said: The mission requirements, should be displayed ingame in the mission description. @BeauNidl3 Admittedly I have a good range of ships at multiple tiers so I don't have the problem that @A_useless_noob had, but I finished the whole mission chain in about 3 hours, played mostly in COOP so quick games. You don't have to play in German ships, you can do it in any nation. Really ? it says in mission description german ships only Pretty sure it didn't (I've completed it so I can't see it now). I got the damage on US ships in Perth (T6 commonwealth) sheer fluke there were 2 bot BB's that I HE spammed, on Russian ships in my October Revolution, the Citadel hits and fires I got playing Indianapolis (required T7 ships which I could see in the mission description when I hovered over it, no mention of nation required to be played) and the secondaries I got in my Bismarck (required T8 ships, again visible when hovered over the mission part), the modules just came along with it, I got the last 5 or so in a Mogami random game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HABIT] Tungstonid Beta Tester 1,568 posts Report post #14 Posted May 19, 2018 49 minutes ago, BeauNidl3 said: Pretty sure it didn't (I've completed it so I can't see it now). I got the damage on US ships in Perth (T6 commonwealth) sheer fluke there were 2 bot BB's that I HE spammed, on Russian ships in my October Revolution, the Citadel hits and fires I got playing Indianapolis (required T7 ships which I could see in the mission description when I hovered over it, no mention of nation required to be played) and the secondaries I got in my Bismarck (required T8 ships, again visible when hovered over the mission part), the modules just came along with it, I got the last 5 or so in a Mogami random game. It doesn't. Tier is restricted, nations are not. Spoiler Don't judge my progress. No motivation and even less time to play atm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,902 battles Report post #15 Posted May 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Aragathor said: We are returning to the old mission system, where you need to fulfill stupid requirements to get a paltry reward. I remember getting Jack Dunkirk from a collection that was gathered by playing a nice operation with ships WG gave us. 'Member Nachi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #16 Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, lup3s said: 'Member Nachi No.. I had those nice memory-delete people from eternal sunshine of the spotless mind come over. Sweet sweet oblivion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,902 battles Report post #17 Posted May 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, PzychoPanzer said: No.. I had those nice memory-delete people from eternal sunshine of the spotless mind come over. Sweet sweet oblivion. Let me poor you ( a couple of) Westmalle Triples ... I'm sure you'll remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #18 Posted May 19, 2018 Just helped a friend to complete the missions to end of stage 3, all done in COOP apart from the 1m credits, there is definitely no restriction on using German ships to damage the US, RU ships, get the fires, citadels and credits. He did the damage in October, fires in Schors and citadels in Fiji, didn't take long with 2 of us to force the ship nations and light cruisers in COOP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ENUF] Ze_Reckless [ENUF] Players 2,532 posts 23,427 battles Report post #19 Posted May 19, 2018 5 hours ago, A_useless_noob said: The mission requirements, should be displayed ingame Click on your profile name on the top left, select News and look for the mission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,326 battles Report post #20 Posted May 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Tungstonid said: Tier 7 and 8 are only a high requirement for new players And it's a problem, because other special captains like Charlie Honor or Jack Dunkirk were easier to get. Putting harder requirements on the German captain is unfair to low level players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #21 Posted May 19, 2018 Vor 6 Minuten, Aragathor sagte: And it's a problem, because other special captains like Charlie Honor or Jack Dunkirk were easier to get. Putting harder requirements on the German captain is unfair to low level players. especially with that russian captain only two weeks ago, that has better enhanced skills and was way easier to get... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,326 battles Report post #22 Posted May 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Klopirat said: especially with that russian captain only two weeks ago, that has better enhanced skills and was way easier to get... Oh yeah, I didn't even notice getting Captain Stalinstache. That one was easy as hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #23 Posted May 19, 2018 I feel mistreated by being lured in by the very ambiguous headline of this thread. Why wasn't it explained to me it was going to be such a whiny thread before I clicked it?? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #24 Posted May 19, 2018 At 1300 battles some people are closing in on their 2nd tier 10 ship, I'm sure you could manage at least one tier 8 23 hours ago, A_useless_noob said: should have been made clear at the start. It was. https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/premshop/never-going-to-get-to-franz/ Everything was shown and explained before the mission even started Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,353 battles Report post #25 Posted May 19, 2018 15 hours ago, Aragathor said: And it's a problem, because other special captains like Charlie Honor or Jack Dunkirk were easier to get. Putting harder requirements on the German captain is unfair to low level players. The skills are not worth the grind, they are really useless caps... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites