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Hi,

the other day I was extremely frustrated. I had gotten free 250 gold doubloons, I think from the Science of Victory campaign. That made me feel very fortunate because I now could get small niceties without pay, like recruiting up to ten 3-point captains for new ships.

A short while later though, they were all gone and I didn't even know where.

Turns out, by default, this here check box to re-supply signals with in-game currency is checked. On ALL ships. So I unintentionally blew it all on some signals that are found in containers and easily available through challenges etc. It made me really angry.

Now where else could this happen?

Camos of course.

And the premium consumables.

But where else? Is there more?

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Vor 2 Stunden, ColonelPete sagte:

You selected the stuff.

You selected automated refill.

You ignored the information on your screen.

Your smugness is offputting and doesn't help anybody.

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Happened a few days ago to a new player I invited recently.

I remember the other thread in which Conway (?) said the issue would be transmitted.

Next update, guess what, more of the same with the camos.

In the end the message is pretty clear...

 

(btw, colonel, don't you get tired of defending again and again what is at best bad UI design and at worst a petty scamming attempt ?)

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8 minutes ago, AmiralPotato said:

Happened a few days ago to a new player I invited recently.

I remember the other thread in which Conway (?) said the issue would be transmitted.

Next update, guess what, more of the same with the camos.

In the end the message is pretty clear...

 

(btw, colonel, don't you get tired of defending again and again what is at best bad UI design and at worst a petty scamming attempt ?)

Explaining is not defending.

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2 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Explaining is not defending.

Well, my bad then.

Not a native speaker, so I may misinterpret from time to time.

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Signal flags m8, the economic ones ,  i dont even mount those anymore . WG Did a bad job with this @MrConway

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Am 16.5.2018 um 15:44, ColonelPete sagte:

You selected the stuff.

You selected automated refill.

You ignored the information on your screen.

It is fine print in a dodgy contract.

Probably legal -

but definitely the opposite of customer friendly.

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21 minutes ago, Nautical_Metaphor said:

It is fine print in a dodgy contract.

Probably legal -

but definitely the opposite of customer friendly.

If you consider the second sentence of a contract as fine print...ok

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37 minutes ago, Nautical_Metaphor said:

Your "smugness" doesn't get any less "offputting".

You impress nobody.

...

Why should I try to impress anyone? If writing the truth is considered "smugness", so be it.

I just do not like people without arguments that just make stuff up or just exaggerate to score emotional points.

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OP: this stuff is almost certainly deliberate, as it makes WG more money (WOT was run in the same way, until they ditched gold for premium ammo etc.); I'm very much in the camp that thinks this is pi$$ poor (there are far easier ways to make money, that don't annoy your paying customers).

 

The only thing you can do is to be thorough and methodical when configuring your new ships (or changing existing ones); take the time to look closely at everything - consumables, flags, cammo etc. Make really sure that everything is set to spend silver (or not automatically replenish). Basically, don't set up your ships in five seconds without looking closely at all the settings - it's not great if you lack patience, but it's necessary to avoid falling foul of the UI.

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On 17/05/2018 at 9:09 PM, ColonelPete said:

If writing the truth is considered "smugness", so be it.

You have said two untrue things.

 

On 16/05/2018 at 2:44 PM, ColonelPete said:

You selected automated refill.

On 17/05/2018 at 5:36 PM, ColonelPete said:

If you consider the second sentence of a contract as fine print...ok

 

- Automated refill is enabled by default without selection.

- Section 8, Virtual Goods, begins a third of the way through the terms of service contract and could reasonably be considered part of a layperson's interpretation of the term 'fine print'.

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43 minutes ago, StringWitch said:

You have said two untrue things.

 

 

- Automated refill is enabled by default without selection.

- Section 8, Virtual Goods, begins a third of the way through the terms of service contract and could reasonably be considered part of a layperson's interpretation of the term 'fine print'.

Automated refill is not enabled by default, unless using permanent premium camo!

If you have no patience to read till the end, contracts are not for you. And there is a thing called "headlines". One could use them for orientation.

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7 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Automated refill is not enabled by default, unless using permanent premium camo!

Sorry, I meant the 'auto refill using in-game currency' checkbox.

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1 minute ago, StringWitch said:

Sorry, I meant the 'auto refill using in-game currency' checkbox.

Did not write about that...

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I was aware that certain camos and flags cost gold to replace if you had the auto resupply box ticked, but I still lost a large number of doubloons as I had missed quite a few.  Bloody annoying when you have to go through each and every ship trying to stop the leak, or remember to pay attention to your battle results to see if you have lost any during that particular game.  As others have said it's pretty devious from Wargaming that paying with gold is the default and leaves a sour taste.

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I also didn't understand the meaning of "in game currency" and assumed it meant ordinary credits which is how I have always covered resupply.  So when I also was given some dubloons I thought I'd save them until I found something for which I needed to use them and then they were all gone.  Now I can't complain about it because if I do, some smartarse will insult my  IQ and humiliate me in public.  So I'll say nothing. :Smile_hiding:

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On 11/13/2018 at 2:31 PM, Tatsfield said:

I also didn't understand the meaning of "in game currency" and assumed it meant ordinary credits which is how I have always covered resupply.  So when I also was given some dubloons I thought I'd save them until I found something for which I needed to use them and then they were all gone.  Now I can't complain about it because if I do, some smartarse will insult my  IQ and humiliate me in public.  So I'll say nothing. :Smile_hiding:

As most people have said before, the UI sucks.

 

Although you've probably already worked this out, 'in-game currency' can mean any of something like half a dozen things these days; silver and doubloons being the two most common, but this also includes steel, coal, guineas, copper, and sovereigns (off the top of my head).

 

The key thing is to look closely at every part of your ship where you tick boxes to set automatic resupply - camo, signals, and consumables being the obvious ones. It's not as bad as it was though - these days, premium consumables don't default to doubloons (but signals are for doubloons, and do default to auto-resupply).

 

Basically, check everything carefully (and even re-check after a patch; usually nothing changes, but there have been incidences in the past where this wasn't the case, I believe)...

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I was looking for help and assistance in navigating the pitfalls of the game but this thread has turned into a one man hubrisfest which may make the individual in question feel self satisfied but actually destroys the usefulness of the thread.  Left alone in front of a computer keyboard without the real presence of others can feed the aggressive tendencies of those with mild psychopathy.  Forums and gameschat are two areas where such people launch into insulting behaviour that they never would outside the virtual world. :Smile_Default:

 

I doubt that much more of use will appear in this thread now.

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this is a big problem for wargaming. i allready post that.

 

wargaming must give players a right to handle with dubloons. we dont have this right now.

its possible that after some lawyer insultation, they will do it. 

( solution is general button to stop spending the dubloons)

 

it is done like you post. accidentaly you will loose your dubloons.

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You selected the stuff.

You selected automated refill.

You ignored the information on your screen.

 

Hint: Look at your premium consumables and check your battle reports.

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10 minutes ago, HackingCheater said:

Your smugness is offputting and doesn't help anybody.

Well, you added premium consumables to your list after I answered you...

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