So i thought i'd give this game another go.

[Hannibalurg]

Ahh, only 10 DD's no problemo. The game will be an island hugging carpetbombing camping game. 

 

Great fun.

 

 

 

[xxNihilanxx]

You do understand that the proliferation of DDs in this game is a direct result of the proliferation of BBs being played? High numbers of BBs make it very difficult to operate in a CA/CL and so, as hardly anyone plays CVs, if people want to have fun playing anything other than BBs then they tend to gravitate towards DDs.

 

In this case you are part of the problem and certainly not part of the solution.

[ColdWarFish]

Also, I only count 8 DDs. One of which does not have torpedos that you should be too afraid of.

No Asashio as well.

 

Why exactly are you complaining again?

 

[lup3s]

5 BBs per team, 5 DDs per team ... I don't see the problem here ?

[Prospect_b]

3 minutes ago, lup3s said:

5 BBs per team, 5 DDs per team ... I don't see the problem here ?

I see a problem.

 

It's called elementary math

[MoveZig]

I wouldn't play a t8+ DD anymore, period. WG stick radar or hydro on every ship these days. Well, maybe that's okay for Khaba-types.

[ColonelPete]

1 hour ago, Hannibalurg said:

Ahh, only 10 DD's no problemo. The game will be an island hugging carpetbombing camping game. 

 

Great fun.

 

 

 

As if battles with 0 DD were different...

[deadly_if_swallowed]

poor Hipper and Eugen :/

[aboomination]

18 minutes ago, MoveZig said:

I wouldn't play a t8+ DD anymore, period. WG stick radar or hydro on every ship these days. Well, maybe that's okay for Khaba-types.

It helps if you look at the teams' compositions at the start of the match ;)

[havaduck]

Just now, ColonelPete said:

As if battles with 0 DD were different...

 

This. So far absolutely everything has been used by noobs as an excuse to camp harder.

 

1 hour ago, Hannibalurg said:

Ahh, only 10 DD's no problemo. The game will be an island hugging carpetbombing camping game. 

 

Great fun.

 

 

Go and play a cruiser - preferably T8 - then loaded up with Hydro for the DDs - and remember: No island hugging or camping. Go out there and fight the DDs in the open like a man! We will anxious await your report how that did go for you...

[Exocet6951]

11 minutes ago, havaduck said:

This. So far absolutely everything has been used by noobs as an excuse to camp harder.

 

Pretty much.

"Too many gunboats? I kemp harder"
"Too many cruisers, I kemp"

"Too many BBs, I kemp"

"There's a CV? I kemp"
"There are 20km torpedoes with 15 second reaction time? I kemp"

[Aotearas]

Oh wow, only 4 BBs per team.

[wilkatis_LV]

3 hours ago, Hannibalurg said:

Ahh, only 10 DD's no problemo.

Seeing how you are playing a class that has 10 ships representing it almost every single game I don't really see why are you complaining about that Also Khaba is a CL, so 8 DDs

 

 

[havaduck]

24 minutes ago, wilkatis_LV said:

Also Khaba is a CL, so 8 DDs

 

 

 

I always thought its a battleship: Heal, better concealment than cruisers, better turret rotation than cruisers, faster than a cruiser, cruiser HE mostly cant damage it and it doesnt have a citadel. Its russian and therefore gets the privilege of WG looking out for it to be rather on top of every food-chain. Yeah, that does kinda sound like a battleship...

Wait! Its not idiot proof  ....... I see the difference now.

[Hannibalurg]

10 hours ago, ColdWarFish said:

Also, I only count 8 DDs. One of which does not have torpedos that you should be too afraid of.

No Asashio as well.

 

Why exactly are you complaining again?

 

Then i urge you to count again.

 

Thing is to many of 1 shiptype is a real issue in my opinon. We need more diversity. I miss the old good times when we had 2 CV's 4 BBs, 3-4 CA's and 2-3 DD's.

 

But who am i, i got 4 T10 and is still pretty bad, but back then the game was fun so it diden't matter MM was more class balanced even tho CV's were massivly overpowered at that time.

Running into 5 DD's as a BB is pure pain. Playing CA without having to worry about protecting your BB's from carriers is all but gone. Now it is a simple spotting game for DD's. 

And don't forget, the natural predator for DDs is all but gone. (CV's)

 

So on further thought maybe i should have complained about CV's needing to be fixed. (as in make them fun to play, i guess people don't play CV because it's not fun enough)

[Capra76]

10 hours ago, Exocet6951 said:

 

Pretty much.

"Too many gunboats? I kemp harder"
"Too many cruisers, I kemp"

"Too many BBs, I kemp"

"There's a CV? I kemp"
"There are 20km torpedoes with 15 second reaction time? I kemp"

 

A song for BB players (especially in RN T7 premium BB):

 

The Grand Old Duke of York, he had ten thousand men, he marched them up to the edge of the map, then he camped there and did aii;.

and when there were DD he would camp, and when there were CV he would camp, and when there were neither of those he was too far away to do anything usefull at all...........

 

[ThinderChief]

On 16/05/2018 at 12:12 PM, xxNihilanxx said:

You do understand that the proliferation of DDs in this game is a direct result of the proliferation of BBs being played? High numbers of BBs make it very difficult to operate in a CA/CL and so, as hardly anyone plays CVs, if people want to have fun playing anything other than BBs then they tend to gravitate towards DDs.

 

In this case you are part of the problem and certainly not part of the solution.

Especially with a Monarch, this BB line from tVIII, 35% fire chance, repair at will and concealment of a Cl, are you kidding me?

 

How about 5 radar ships per team in a game?

 

 

 

 

[LeSnoet]

@OP; I do not envy you in that piece of junk called the Monarch. You will have a hard time in any kind of game the MM throws at you.

[T0byJug]

On 5/16/2018 at 1:00 PM, Hannibalurg said:

Ahh, only 10 DD's no problemo. The game will be an island hugging carpetbombing camping game. 

 

Great fun.

 

 

 

This Bull again... Time for the Facts numbers

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/index.html

 

Ok Numbers for last 2 months 

Tier 6-10 percentage  of ships brought to battle by class

BB       =42% 

CA/CL= 32%

CV       = 2%

DD      =24%

 

24% is an average of 3 DDs a team so if you have a battle with 5 it means there were battles with just 1

 

numbers for last week

Tier 6-10 percentage of ships brought to battle by class

BB       =39% of ships 

CA/CL= 34%

CV       = 2%

DD      =25%

 

So sorry implying that there is a constant 5 DDs at team is a LIE 

The only issue is the number of BBs in games 

[zengaze]

8 minutes ago, T0byJug said:

This Bull again... Time for the Facts numbers

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/index.html

 

Ok Numbers for last 2 months 

Tier 6-10 percentage  of ships brought to battle by class

BB       =42% 

CA/CL= 32%

CV       = 2%

DD      =24%

 

24% is an average of 3 DDs a team so if you have a battle with 5 it means there were battles with just 1

 

numbers for last week

Tier 6-10 percentage of ships brought to battle by class

BB       =39% of ships 

CA/CL= 34%

CV       = 2%

DD      =25%

 

So sorry implying that there is a constant 5 DDs at team is a LIE 

The only issue is the number of BBs in games 

Don't do that! Facts don't trump feelings. BB's have it harder than any other class, this is a proven feeling which is obvious when you look at how low the WR off BBs is. WG needs to fix this before every BB driver realises they are being discriminated against and leaves FOREVER.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

2 hours ago, zengaze said:

WG needs to fix this before every BB driver realises they are being discriminated against and leaves FOREVER.

 

Well, all I could say then would be: Fare thee well, all you special little peoples...

[Hannibalurg]

4 hours ago, T0byJug said:

 

 

So sorry implying that there is a constant 5 DDs at team is a LIE 

The only issue is the number of BBs in games 

Never implyed such a thing. I screenshotted an example of a game with 10 destroyers. If you read the entire post you would see that it is not in its core of DD's i am complaining about, but, how much of an issue there is when 1 ship class is overreprisented in matchmaking. And lately i feel DD's makes the strongest present. 

 

Also implications cannot be lies. 

[Juanx]

15 hours ago, zengaze said:

Don't do that! Facts don't trump feelings. BB's have it harder than any other class, this is a proven feeling which is obvious when you look at how low the WR off BBs is. WG needs to fix this before every BB driver realises they are being discriminated against and leaves FOREVER.

 

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, beathes in...

BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

This has to be the biggest pile of dung that has ever been posted in this  place.

 

So, after what has effectively been the 3 years of the BB, you still moan that WG should cater even more for boat babies like yourself?

 

Also, yes, facts > feelings, get used ot it...

[Flavio1997]

that is a bad MM for you?

this is what i call bad mm

and still manage to end up with 140k of damage because 2 teir 10 bb drivers like you decided that chasing a cruiser with 16 torps and a concealment better than his torpedo range was a bright idea

 

[Panocek]

On 16.05.2018 at 5:02 PM, havaduck said:

 

I always thought its a battleship: Heal, better concealment than cruisers, better turret rotation than cruisers, faster than a cruiser, cruiser HE mostly cant damage it and it doesnt have a citadel. Its russian and therefore gets the privilege of WG looking out for it to be rather on top of every food-chain. Yeah, that does kinda sound like a battleship...

Wait! Its not idiot proof  ....... I see the difference now.

Khaba is no battleship for other reason too - she was nerfed. 4 TIMES (removal of stealth firing, range nerf, rudder nerf, 10km torp removal)