Dogeball Players 1 post 2,783 battles Report post #1 Posted May 16, 2018 Hi, I read about this in the archive section. Do people still find it very expensive to play Tier 9 and 10 Battleships, I read the threat in the archive section and the general thoughts were that the top tiers were very expensive in order to keep a volume of people playing the lower tier ships so that there would be competition at the lower tiers. This is fine and i agree it is good to keep interest in the lower tiers, however making the top tiers so expensive to play drains the pool of players from the top tiers, this also has the effect of keeping skilled players (not me i'm not very good at WoW) at lower tiers which in turn can lead to new players meeting seasoned players at mid-low level tiers and getting turn off the game feeling that its just to difficult to play. I think people will generally want to play higher tiers in their chosen nation, it takes a lot of play to progress any number of ships even to mid tiers, I would feel that making the top tiers so expensive will lead to a lot of player giving up the game rather than playing 90% of their battles at low tiers and 10% at higher tiers Look forward to reading what others think about this Stephen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PUPSI] Klopirat Freibeuter 15,160 posts Report post #2 Posted May 16, 2018 Vor 3 Minuten, Dogeball sagte: Look forward to reading what others think about this Playing Tier 9/10 should be even more expensive than it is at the moment, and the perma camos on these tiers should be changed to have to effect on credit earnings and servive costs... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azalgor Beta Tester 1,046 posts 20,419 battles Report post #3 Posted May 16, 2018 They already lowered the prices for maintanence after the battle and increased gains for playing the objective, which sort of was a BS decision on lowering the price, what they need to do is increase rewards for ACTUALLY playing the objectives, where it excludes doing damage from max ranges for BB at the very least. Now high tiers are a paradise for campers that still complain that its hard to gain credits there. They want a ''Reward me more for doing less'' policy. What would be better if they had increased the maintanence x3 for ships of T7+ to try and keep the campers away from high tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,539 battles Report post #4 Posted May 16, 2018 @Dogeball tier IX and X can be played quite easily and at profit if you buy Prem time. This is the free to play game but needed to be funded somehow. This funding is done a number of ways Prem Time/Prem Ships and Premium Camo. Prem time gives you that credit bonus to be able to afford to play mainly high tiers Prem Ships have Credit bonuses that make you earn credits at lower tiers faster so can then play more high tier games. Prem Camo(permanent camo) I agree with @Klopirat high tier or indeed all prem (permanent camo) should incur a Credit bonus as well so if there us a high tier ship you want to play a lot you can buy permanent camo and play the ship at a profit easier simple fact and game mechanic is if you want to play for free you have to play low tiers to fund you high tier habbit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #5 Posted May 16, 2018 *Laughs in Missouri* 1 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EST] Profilus [EST] Players 1,859 posts 35,623 battles Report post #6 Posted May 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, Klopirat said: Playing Tier 9/10 should be even more expensive than it is at the moment, and the perma camos on these tiers should be changed to have to effect on credit earnings and servive costs... If you meant to write NO on bolded part then yeah, exactly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #7 Posted May 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said: *Laughs in Missouri* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #8 Posted May 16, 2018 Since the introduction of the warehouse and selling all my old modules, I do not care about upkeep costs. I just bought a Tier VIII, Tier IX and Tier X ship and I am still over 110 million silver. Upkeep is cheap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PMI] Juanx Players 2,564 posts 9,353 battles Report post #9 Posted May 16, 2018 56 minutes ago, Dogeball said: Hi, I read about this in the archive section. Do people still find it very expensive to play Tier 9 and 10 Battleships, I read the threat in the archive section and the general thoughts were that the top tiers were very expensive in order to keep a volume of people playing the lower tier ships so that there would be competition at the lower tiers. This is fine and i agree it is good to keep interest in the lower tiers, however making the top tiers so expensive to play drains the pool of players from the top tiers, this also has the effect of keeping skilled players (not me i'm not very good at WoW) at lower tiers which in turn can lead to new players meeting seasoned players at mid-low level tiers and getting turn off the game feeling that its just to difficult to play. I think people will generally want to play higher tiers in their chosen nation, it takes a lot of play to progress any number of ships even to mid tiers, I would feel that making the top tiers so expensive will lead to a lot of player giving up the game rather than playing 90% of their battles at low tiers and 10% at higher tiers Look forward to reading what others think about this Stephen Think: you should not have bought ships above your skill level, they are not automats, they need some skill behind them to produce the dough, and it would seem you cant perform sufficiently. Half your games have been in BBs, a few of those at T9, why should we even read what you posted in the first place? As pointed above, learn the game in the low-mid tiers, then you may start to be able to play your higher tiered ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #10 Posted May 16, 2018 Premium camo + acc = problems sloved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #11 Posted May 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, _DeathWing_ said: Premium camo + acc = problems sloved ^This. Sure it is a free to play game but if you take the time to grind to tier 10 then you should in my opinion be willing to pay a few bucks for it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,902 battles Report post #12 Posted May 16, 2018 Tbh I rarely lose credits at T9 or T10. The major reason for me (and some other players as well I think) to play low/mid tier ships is because they're usually more fun to play. To clarify: I mean that T4 to T7 battles are usually less frustrating than T10 battles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostRiderMax123 ∞ Players 769 posts 3,782 battles Report post #13 Posted May 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, lup3s said: Tbh I rarely lose credits at T9 or T10. The major reason for me (and some other players as well I think) to play low/mid tier ships is because they're usually more fun to play. To clarify: I mean that T4 to T7 battles are usually less frustrating than T10 battles. Same here it's very rare for me to have a game where i make a loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] wilkatis_LV [THROW] Players 5,061 posts 10,702 battles Report post #14 Posted May 16, 2018 It's far too cheap to play tier 9 and 10, they should be more expensive. Prem Acc and Perma Camo - you need just 1 of those to start making credits at those tiers, get both and you'll pretty much never lose them This probably is a big part of why tier 10 is so overplayed that tier 8 ships get f**ked by them 9 games out of every 10 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RAIN] GarrusBrutus Players 3,711 posts 12,557 battles Report post #15 Posted May 16, 2018 3 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said: It's far too cheap to play tier 9 and 10, they should be more expensive. Prem Acc and Perma Camo - you need just 1 of those to start making credits at those tiers, get both and you'll pretty much never lose them This probably is a big part of why tier 10 is so overplayed that tier 8 ships get f**ked by them 9 games out of every 10 Damn right. Now you're betting off free xp-ing to atleast T9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #16 Posted May 16, 2018 9 hours ago, ColonelPete said: Since the introduction of the warehouse and selling all my old modules, I do not care about upkeep costs. I just bought a Tier VIII, Tier IX and Tier X ship and I am still over 110 million silver. Upkeep is cheap. Thats a sh1tload of items in your inventory. When I sell (few times per year) its 4-8 mil credits max. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FABER] Bics93 [FABER] Players 617 posts 6,307 battles Report post #17 Posted May 16, 2018 Well, I like lower tiers more than high ones: 6-7 BBs and cruisers are my most played ships... Also sometimes I only need to realx a bit and dakka dakka with tier 3-4 protected cruisers is quite fun :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #18 Posted May 16, 2018 12 hours ago, Dogeball said: This is fine and i agree it is good to keep interest in the lower tiers, however making the top tiers so expensive to play drains the pool of players from the top tiers, this also has the effect of keeping skilled players (not me i'm not very good at WoW) at lower tiers which in turn can lead to new players meeting seasoned players at mid-low level tiers and getting turn off the game feeling that its just to difficult to play. These kind of players still make credits at T9-10 and even if they drop down to T7-8, where the money really comes in, it's hardly sealclubbing. If you really need credits, playing T4 or 5 has such poor returns, it isn't really worth it if you are skilled enough. So, for credit reasons alone, few skilled players will go for lower tiers. If they go there, then because they have fun there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ferry_25 Players 4,392 posts 12,107 battles Report post #19 Posted May 16, 2018 Don't know if it's been mentioned. Didn't read the thread. My 2 cents: OP you have 927 battles under your belt, from which 799 in randoms. My guess is you rushed through the tiers too fast and aren't ready at all in any way for T9. Get the F back to lower tiers and build up more experience before wasting your own and your team's games in the high tiers please. Not to mock you: I made that exact same mistake myself. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] BeauNidl3 Players 2,192 posts Report post #20 Posted May 16, 2018 I rarely lose credits at T9/10 these days, but my play has improved a fair bit so I score better than I did, unless I derp of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-C-N] Belustigungspanda Players 1,081 posts 16,399 battles Report post #21 Posted May 16, 2018 Using at least one of the available "regular" credit signals (= -10% maintenance costs, +20% credit income), even players without a premium account are able to average some small net income on T9 ships as long as they perform above average. Combining those two signals and some credit bonus camo (like the one you could get in the french BB containers...i got nearly 180 of them stockpiled...), one should be able to get through this entire grind (which after all is one of the very last ones) without having to bother much with premium account time or additional rounds in MidTier ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ANV] Starchy_Tuber Players 867 posts 11,120 battles Report post #22 Posted May 16, 2018 14 hours ago, Dogeball said: Hi, I read about this in the archive section. Do people still find it very expensive to play Tier 9 and 10 Battleships, I read the threat in the archive section and the general thoughts were that the top tiers were very expensive in order to keep a volume of people playing the lower tier ships so that there would be competition at the lower tiers. This is fine and i agree it is good to keep interest in the lower tiers, however making the top tiers so expensive to play drains the pool of players from the top tiers, this also has the effect of keeping skilled players (not me i'm not very good at WoW) at lower tiers which in turn can lead to new players meeting seasoned players at mid-low level tiers and getting turn off the game feeling that its just to difficult to play. I think people will generally want to play higher tiers in their chosen nation, it takes a lot of play to progress any number of ships even to mid tiers, I would feel that making the top tiers so expensive will lead to a lot of player giving up the game rather than playing 90% of their battles at low tiers and 10% at higher tiers Look forward to reading what others think about this Stephen Get one of the premium ships via Missions or Events - use it to make lots of silver. Tier 4,5,6,7 earn you lots, and they are good captain trainers (on the whole - Duke of York is essentially just a junkpile covered in ice) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] Ysterpyp Players 1,490 posts 25,846 battles Report post #23 Posted May 17, 2018 22 hours ago, GarrusBrutus said: *Laughs in Missouri* And they say money doesn't bring happiness lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WCBG] BrusilovX Beta Tester 2,838 posts 23,907 battles Report post #24 Posted May 17, 2018 21 hours ago, _DeathWing_ said: Premium camo + acc = problems sloved I guess it's basically the same game model as WoT where in order to run a TX you need to keep some TVIIIs for credit farming. As you posted using a premium account also helps (which is on way that Wargaming make money). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rq3dm4 Players 32 posts 3,745 battles Report post #25 Posted May 17, 2018 I enjoy tire X more then premium ships at tire 8. Tire 8 is "fun" when u are facing tire 6 ships, as a BB you rule the world. I have permanent cammo for my tire X and premium account, I make on average 300k-400k profit. A triple A game for ps4/xbox or pc is around 60 Euros and if you play 100 hours you can say it was money well spent. If you play WoWs and have spent hundred of hours in game I think you should have the decency to pay/support this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites