new rules abuot shoiting bei mistake a ships from your team is not very god

[T0byJug]

17 hours ago, wilkatis_LV said:

Since (to me) this is a more readable example than they are usually - here's an approximate translation for y'all who don't speak Inglich

"I was playing 2 games with Gearing and I shot in 2 matches 2 ships from my team - it was not intentional... And now I can't play... It's not ok like that, I was DD and I capture C and defend, I kill enemies and one from my team. I can't look at what I and my whole team are doing all the time and I wrote in chat << Torps! Be careful! >>... And 2 matches the same thing happened... Please look at it, it's not ok like this... All players have to be careful and look at chat what everyone's doing if you are playing and when DD is in cap and launches torps..."

 

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Solution to that is simple - don't shoot your allies and you'll be fine (Also enjoy your Co-Op games )

Better solution.. 

 

17 hours ago, marian_738 said:

y was play 2 game whit Gearing and y shot in 2 maches  2 ships  from my team  it was whit no intetion......and now y kant not play...is not ok like dat y was destroyer and  y capture area c and defent y kill enemis and one from my team  y kant not lock what are doing all my team and y route in chatt torps be careful....and in two maches same figs hapend...... please lock is not ok like dis .....all player hab to be careful an lock at chat what are are doing if you are playng  and  when destroye is in cap and shots tropedos.......

@marian_738 Stop playing destroyers or at least ones with long range Torpedoes. Because being aware of your hole team is exactly what you need/expected to do.  If you hit a friendly ship with your Torpedoes its ALWAYS YOUR FAULT no if/buts or maybes.

Apologise and accept your punishment and be more careful next time.

[frugly]

Hello fellow players,

 

I also have a problem with the new system. Reason is very simple: it is not a fair system. E.g. if a ship drives against me .... I get a warning! Strange i think. If for e.g. at longer range ONE shell from my destroyer hits a bs of a teammate ... i get another warning and am almost ready for only coop battles!!!  ... that is what the message says, that i received on the screen.

It is, as if one is forgetting that this is a game ... and not A CRIME to play it when you make a little 'mistake'. It should be that it punishes when teammates damage eachother on purpose. But this game is not wot .... there it happens a lot more than in wows.  I would be very glad if it will be changed ....quickly.

 

Best regards,

 

Arold Wouters (frugly)

[T0byJug]

11 minutes ago, frugly said:

Hello fellow players,

 

I also have a problem with the new system. Reason is very simple: it is not a fair system. E.g. if a ship drives against me .... I get a warning! Strange i think. If for e.g. at longer range ONE shell from my destroyer hits a bs of a teammate ... i get another warning and am almost ready for only coop battles!!!  ... that is what the message says, that i received on the screen.

It is, as if one is forgetting that this is a game ... and not A CRIME to play it when you make a little 'mistake'. It should be that it punishes when teammates damage eachother on purpose. But this game is not wot .... there it happens a lot more than in wows.  I would be very glad if it will be changed ....quickly.

 

Best regards,

 

Arold Wouters (frugly)

you dont get punished for one or even a few infringements you get punished for repeated or major infringement. When 2 ships collide BOTH players get warned. You will be punished if you are constantly careless if so you deserve it.  The posters example is fully justified careless torpedoes are the bane of this game.. and if you hit a team mate you should be punished. 

 

As a player you have to be aware of ships around you. We all make mistakes but if you are careful the punishments will be minimal if at all.

 

Douse the new system need tweaking? almost defiantly. We can be pretty sure it will be tweaked as they gather data. 

 

As for comment this is a game. It is indeed but its not a single player game. Careless or selfish players ruin the game for the other 11 on there team.

[frugly]

Thx for the response, but i do not agree with all you say. I experienced myself: only collision and 1 or 2 shells of my 100 mm from destroyer hit a teammate .... and i get treated as if i am a kind of criminal .... IT IS A GAME!!! The last part is my biggest concern. I agree that it is not a good idea to shoot at teammates .... but hitting by accident is a whole other thing to me .... :-)

 

Best regards, Arold

[T0byJug]

3 minutes ago, frugly said:

Thx for the response, but i do not agree with all you say. I experienced myself: only collision and 1 or 2 shells of my 100 mm from destroyer hit a teammate .... and i get treated as if i am a kind of criminal .... IT IS A GAME!!! The last part is my biggest concern. I agree that it is not a good idea to shoot at teammates .... but hitting by accident is a whole other thing to me .... :-)

 

Best regards, Arold

have you been banned from PvP and forced to play PvE.

If you set a ship on fire and the ship cant rapair then yes maybe you will turn pink but sorry you dont turn pink and get punished from a collision (unless it lasts a long time) and/or a few shots. you have to be doing it often

[frugly]

No, i am not saying it correct: i am not yet forced to play PvE, but got the warning and i turned pink.

And yes: only collision and shell hit by my destroyer ... that is all. And i do not do it often! :-)

 

But like i said: my complaint is only that it is as if you are a criminal (forced to PvE: what nobody wants) ... it is A GAME.   In wows almost nobody ... as far as i see in the games i played ... does it on purpose. 
And yes ... it happens that also teammates go blind in the heat of the battle and drive directly in you line of fire. ...... it happens .. it is a game.

 

Frugly

[T0byJug]

31 minutes ago, frugly said:

No, i am not saying it correct: i am not yet forced to play PvE, but got the warning and i turned pink.

And yes: only collision and shell hit from my destroyer ... that is all. And i do not do it often! :-)

 

But like i said: my complaint is only that it is as if you are a criminal (forced to PvE: what nobody wants) ... it is A GAME.   In wows almost nobody ... as far as i see in the games i played ... does it on purpose. 
And yes ... it happens that also teammates go blind in the heat of the battle and drive directly in you line of fire. ...... it happens .. it is a game.

 

Frugly

Thats the point its working fine..

 

You get warnings TO BE CARFULL you were not careful enough so you went pink to say WATCH WHAT YOU ARE DOING..

If you want to be safe go play some tier 1 COOP till you clear the pink. You have to be really careless to do friendly fire or hit an allied ship at tier 1 COOP.

 

Agreed most players don't do friendly fire on purpose but careless players ruin the game for the other 11 on the team. and as such yes you need to be punished for ruining the game for those 11 players if you keep offending. Ive been deleted in CA/CL and DD many times because i had to avoid friendly torps making me an easy target for the enemy. 

 

I have torp'd Friendly's before, with 4500 games in DD i would be a lying if i claimed otherwise.. But i apologised and went and played tier 1 Coop till my punishment was completed. (did not want to risk another infringment that would make punishment much higher) 

Infact i got punished my very first game I played after the patch. Launched match and door bell range did not make it back to PC before game ended.. My being AFK effected the 11 other players so I was punished and had to play a few games in COOP. I did not complain as i deserved it. 

 

Simple fact is if you dont want to care about other players in the game.. Play full PvP where its everyone for them selfs or play Single player games.. If you want to play team based games you have to consider your team and be punished if you don't.

 

Another simple fact is the VAST majority of players have managed to not go pink since the patch has been out so i'm sorry its not a major issue.

 

They have done a sterling job in ships with going pink.. In tanks when blue(Pink) any team member can shoot you for no penalty (this can ruin a match with all shooting the blue player at start of match). This is not the case in ships being pink is just a warning to you to be carefull and your team mates to pay a bit more attention to you as you are a wilful team damager or just somewhat careless

[biker_618]

17 minutes ago, frugly said:

No, i am not saying it correct: i am not yet forced to play PvE, but got the warning and i turned pink.

And yes: only collision and shell hit by my destroyer ... that is all. And i do not do it often! :-)

 

But like i said: my complaint is only that it is as if you are a criminal (forced to PvE: what nobody wants) ... it is A GAME.   In wows almost nobody ... as far as i see in the games i played ... does it on purpose. 
And yes ... it happens that also teammates go blind in the heat of the battle and drive directly in you line of fire. ...... it happens .. it is a game.

 

Frugly

How many accidents without consequences would make you change your habits and play more carefully? ( read: respectfully to your teammates)

 

Purpose or not, it affects other players game experience not in a good way.

[TheFierceRabbit]

20 hours ago, marian_738 said:

soryy my english is not so good

 

No problem. We are only mocking in a friendly way. I am sure your English is a lot better than a few of those brought up in the place.

[A_useless_noob]

First battle. one destroyer rams the second destroyer, then both ram into me. I get penalised why?

 

Second battle. island to the left, Gneisenau to the right.  The enemy ship heading straight for me, I line up the perfect shot, all's clear so i fire my torps.

The gneisenau turns left in front of my torps, and takes a hit before colliding with me and forcing me into the island.

So I am penalised for the damage from the torps, and I'm penalised for the collision, and I'm stuck  taking damage from the enemy while trying to get off the island.

So i'm pink because people can't be bothered to look where they're going, or too busy trying to steal the kill.

[Wildf1re]

10 minutes ago, A_useless_noob said:

First battle. one destroyer rams the second destroyer, then both ram into me. I get penalised why?

 

Second battle. island to the left, Gneisenau to the right.  The enemy ship heading straight for me, I line up the perfect shot, all's clear so i fire my torps.

The gneisenau turns left in front of my torps, and takes a hit before colliding with me and forcing me into the island.

So I am penalised for the damage from the torps, and I'm penalised for the collision, and I'm stuck  taking damage from the enemy while trying to get off the island.

So i'm pink because people can't be bothered to look where they're going, or too busy trying to steal the kill.

A few things wrong here, in my opinion. Regarding the Gneise, obviously all was not clear otherwise there would be no possibility to turn into your torps - you're firing torps from second line. Never do that and if you do be very sure there's not a possibility for an allied changing direction to eat your torps - it's your responsibility and your fault if it happens.

 

As for the collisions the damage and therefore the penalty for team damage is negligible, next to nothing, and in some regard it's fair enough that everybody have a shared responsibility not to blunder in to each other.

 

Lastly... Kill Steal, wtf?? There's no such things as kill stealing in a team based game like wows...

[Ulvesnutepostei]

On ‎08‎.‎05‎.‎2018 at 9:50 PM, marian_738 said:

....and in two maches same figs hapend....

I feel you bro ... those damn figs just pop up out of nowhere 

[A_useless_noob]

16 minutes ago, Wildf1re said:

A few things wrong here, in my opinion. Regarding the Gneise, obviously all was not clear otherwise there would be no possibility to turn into your torps - you're firing torps from second line. Never do that and if you do be very sure there's not a possibility for an allied changing direction to eat your torps - it's your responsibility and your fault if it happens.

 

As for the collisions the damage and therefore the penalty for team damage is negligible, next to nothing, and in some regard it's fair enough that everybody have a shared responsibility not to blunder in to each other.

 

Lastly... Kill Steal, wtf?? There's no such things as kill stealing in a team based game like wows...

there was nothing between me and the target.  He was over to my right, and in no danger.  Until he decided to turn left.  And as for stealing the kill. what would you call it. crossing in front of me pinning me to the island, knowing I couldn't take a shot for fear of hitting him.

[MoveZig]

gooby pls

[A_useless_noob]

Last battle. stayed well away from team mates.  due to them blowing the crap out of each other.  Killed  a cruiser and battle ship, before capping.

This automated system sucks

 

[Prospect_b]

21 hours ago, T0byJug said:

you dont get punished for one or even a few infringements you get punished for repeated or major infringement. When 2 ships collide BOTH players get warned. You will be punished if you are constantly careless if so you deserve it.  The posters example is fully justified careless torpedoes are the bane of this game.. and if you hit a team mate you should be punished. 

 

As a player you have to be aware of ships around you. We all make mistakes but if you are careful the punishments will be minimal if at all.

 

Douse the new system need tweaking? almost defiantly. We can be pretty sure it will be tweaked as they gather data. 

 

As for comment this is a game. It is indeed but its not a single player game. Careless or selfish players ruin the game for the other 11 on there team.

 

21 hours ago, T0byJug said:

If you set a ship on fire and the ship cant rapair then yes maybe you will turn pink but sorry you dont turn pink and get punished from a collision (unless it lasts a long time) and/or a few shots. you have to be doing it often

Good old Toby.

 

People make fun of all the errors in the post of the non-native speaker - here he is to defiantly () show us quality British spelling and grammar, not to mention that Financial Times like editing and punctuation...

 

 

Toby, the real humanitarian among all us scrubs

 

 

[T0byJug]

13 minutes ago, PzychoPanzer said:

 

Good old Toby.

 

People make fun of all the errors in the post of the non-native speaker - here he is to defiantly () show us quality British spelling and grammar, not to mention that Financial Times like editing and punctuation...

 

 

Toby, the real humanitarian among all us scrubs

 

 

but thats why i have you baby to correct me