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This is all interesting information @Necro_von_Cortex. I have relooked at the tech tree I made in 2015 and I've started updating it. @gizaman I've made two Destroyer tech tree sketches, one with the HMS Halland and one without it. The problem with getting the Halland in the game, isn't its guided torpedoes (which i think WG will just ignore and implement as standard torpedoes), but rather that she was built in 1952. WG says that 1948 is the limit.

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18 minutes ago, jfkennedy2 said:

WG says that 1948 is the limit.

Wikipedia says that Neustrashimy was built in 1950, and I'm sure they could bend the rules to fit lighter ships completed later if they fit the game themes (hello Ostergotland)

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2 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Wikipedia says that Neustrashimy was built in 1950, and I'm sure they could bend the rules to fit lighter ships completed later if they fit the game themes (hello Ostergotland)

If that is the case Halland would be perfect for tier IX and Östergötland would be perfect for tier X. Then i could get rid of the paper ship that fills the Tier IX void

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as long as it is somewhat like the real counterpart they can likely make some changes.

 

There are a ton of swedes, Danes and norwegians that play the game. A tech tree to honor us would surely be appreciated. Think there are more playing this than wot. See a lot of them each game.

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1 hour ago, jfkennedy2 said:

If that is the case Halland would be perfect for tier IX and Östergötland would be perfect for tier X. Then i could get rid of the paper ship that fills the Tier IX void

I have a feeling that it might be tricky for a Russian company to get details of military projects less than 70 years old (normal public domain period) in other countries (2019---->1949). Something tells me that Bofors, BAE et al might not want to let them loose in their archive. :)

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On 3/25/2019 at 11:27 PM, invicta2012 said:

I have a feeling that it might be tricky for a Russian company to get details of military projects less than 70 years old (normal public domain period) in other countries (2019---->1949). Something tells me that Bofors, BAE et al might not want to let them loose in their archive. :)

Standard Swedish military classification period is 40 years. 70 years used to be the period for information related to military intelligence, but they bumped that to 90 years recently. Documents more recent than that can be declassified anyway though (a declassification request is always considered on a case-by-case basis) - the difference is basically that before the standard period expires it's "may declassify", and after it expires it's "shall declassify" (unless the secretary of defense intervenes).

 

Most of the information related to 1940's ships and such things is not likely to remain in corporate archives today, or if it does remain it's exceedingly hard to get access to (and I should know, I've tried). It is however easily accessible in the national military archives, and a lot of it has already been declassified. If you can read formal 1940's Swedish with a lot of military technical terms, help yourself right here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8bCDRcq9BVeeFpxYkNXXzJNd\HM

 

There has also been extensive discussion of Swedish ships in past years on these forums; see for example this thread:

(Or just dig through my post history.)

 

There are also some pretty good threads on the US forums, see for example this one: https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/179369-a-serious-case-for-göta-lejon-as-t6-swedish-premium-cl

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I know there are a lot of people that want there own ship from theyre own country and I am here to share my ship I want in the game from my country. And I know that this ship is never going to be added to the game but who knows maybe in the furture

 

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HNoMS Norge was a coastal defence ship of the Eidsvold-class in the Royal Norwegian Navy. Built by Armstrong Whitworth at Newcastle on Tyne, she was torpedoed and sunk by German destroyers in Narvik harbour on 9 April 1940.

She was Built as part of the general rearmament in the time leading up to the events in 1905, Norge remained, along with her sister-ship Eidsvold, the backbone of the Royal Norwegian Navy for just over 40 years. Norge and Eidsvold were the largest vessels in the Royal Norwegian Navy, displacing 4,233 tons and crewed by 270 men. Both vessels were considered to be quite powerful for their time, with two 21 cm (8.26 inch) guns as their main armament. They were armoured to withstand battle with ships of a similar size, with 6 inches (15.24 cm) of Krupp cementedarmour in the belt and 9 inches (22.86 cm) of the same armour on the two gun turrets.

 

Tier III Premium Cruiser Norge

 

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SURVIVABILITY

 

Hitpoints: 19 050

 

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ARTILLERY

 

2 × 21 cm (8.26 inch) guns

6 × 15 cm (5.90 inch) guns

6 × 7.6 cm (3 inch) guns

 

Reload TIme: 8.5 s

 

180 Turn Time: 18.0 s

 

Maximum Dispersion: 108

 

Maximum HE Shell Damage: 1300

 

Chance Of HE Shells Causing A Fire On Target: 5.0 %

 

HE Shell Armor Penetration Capacity: 18 mm

 

Maximum AP Shell Damage: 2400

 

Main Battery Firing Range: 10.5

 

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AA DEFENCE

 

2 × 76 mm anti-aircraft guns

2 × 20 mm Oerlikon guns

2 × 12.7 mm Colt anti-aircraft machine guns

4 × 7.92 mm Colt anti-aircraft machine guns

 

Mid range AA guns

 

AA Reinforcement: 25 %

 

Sector Reinforcement time: 10 s

 

Sector Reinforcement shift time: 10 s

 

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MANEUVERABILITY

 

Maximum Speed: 17.2 knots

Turning Circle Radius: 500 m

 

Rudder Shift Time: 8.1

 

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CONCEALMENT

 

Detectability Range By Sea: 10.2 km

 

Detectability Range By Air: 4.3 km 

 

Assured Detectability Range: 2.0 km

Detectability After Firing Main Guns in Smoke: 4.6 km

 

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ARMOR LAYOUT

 

 

Deck: 50 mm

Armor Belt: 152mm

Conning Tower: 229 mm

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HNoMS Gyller was a Sleipner-class destroyer commissioned into the Royal Norwegian Navy in 1938. Along with the other Sleipner-class vessels in commission at that time, she took part in protecting Norwegian neutrality during the Second World War. After initially serving in the far north during the Finno-Soviet Winter War, she was redeployed to Southern Norway, escorting ships through Norwegian territorial waters. When the Germans invaded Norway on 9 April 1940, she was docked at Kristiansand. After taking part in the defence of the port city, she was captured intact by the invading Germans. Renamed Löwe, she sailed with Nazi Germany's Kriegsmarine for the duration of the war.

 

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Gyller was built at Karljohansvern naval shipyard and had yard number 125. She was launched on 7 July 1938 Gyller had four torpedo tubes, instead of the two which were standard in the rest of her class.

 

 

Tier III Premium Destroyer Gyller

 

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SURVIVABILITY

 

Hit Points: 8 500

 

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ARTILLERY

 

3 × 1 102 mm main guns


Reload TIme: 5.3

 

180 Turn Time: 18.0 s

 

Maximum Dispersion: 88 m

 

Maximum HE Shell Damage: 1600 

 

Chance Of HE Shells Causing A Fire On Target: 6.0 %

 

HE Shell Armor Penetration Capacity: 16 mm

 

Maximum AP Shell Damage: 1800

 

Main Battery Firing Range:  9.7 km 

 

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TORPEDOES

 

2 × 2 53.3 cm double barrelled trainable torpedo tubes

 

Reload Time: 51.0 s

 

Maximum Damage: 11000

 

Torpedo Range: 6.3 km

 

Torpedo Speed: 58 knots

 

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AA DEFENCE

 

1 × 1 40 mm Bofors L/60

 

2 × 1 12.7 mm Colt

 

Mid-range AA guns


AA Reinforcement: 50 %

 

Sector Reinforcement time: 5 s

 

Sector Reinforcement shift time: 5 s

 

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MANEUVERABILITY

 

Maximum Speed: 32.0 knots

 

Turning Circle Radius: 500 m

 

Rudder Shift Time: 3.6 s

 

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CONCEALMENT

 

Detectability Range By Sea: 6.0 km

 

Detectability Range By Air: 2.2 km

 

Assured Detectability Range: 2.0 km

 

Detectability After Firing Main Guns in Smoke: 2.0 km

 

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ARMOR LAYOUT

 

Deck: 6 mm 

 

Armor Belt: 6 mm

 

Superstruture : 6 mm

 

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CONSUMABLES

 

Damage Control Party

Action Time 5s

Reload Time For I 60 s

Reload Time For II 40 s

 

Smoke

Action Time 20 s

Smoke Screen Dispersion Time 65 s

Action Radius 0.50 km

Relaod Time For I 240 s

Relaod Time For II 160 s 

 

Engine Boost

Maximum Speed +8 %

Action Time 120 s

Reload Time For I 180 s

Reload Time For II 120 s

 

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