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Hi all,

 

My 1st update... 7 games played... still 100% stock... I play her just like I play my "Musashi" (and I use the same 19 point captain - Yamamoto)...

 

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She is really curious thing... I really can't say that I dislike her...

 

 

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6 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

My 1st update... 7 games played... still 100% stock... I play her just like I play my "Musashi" (and I use the same 19 point captain - Yamamoto)...

 

She is really curious thing... I really can't say that I dislike her...

That's kind of my opinion as well. And since she is the ship that's supposed to teach you how to play Yamato, playing her like Musashi is probably a good idea.

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As a DD player, if I see an IZUMO she is my target of choice. I remember chasing one down with my Gearing and just continually hitting her from the stern with only 2/3 main guns using only HE. I continually changed my line so I was always on her stern and just burned her to death. As long as I was on her stern and stayed at distance I suffered very little. I do think that IZUMOS find it hard to avoid Torpedoes as they turn poorly... I am currently in NAGATO in my IJN BB line and will just blow through IZUMO to get me YAMATO...

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Hi all,

 

My 2nd update... 42 games played... fully upgraded... over 50% of grind to "Yamato" done (150k+ XP left to do)....

 

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I play her like my "Musashi"... but "Musashi" she is not...

 

 

Observations thus far:

  • she is really "ugly duckling"...
  • she is not as bad as many have written - but she is not good either... :Smile_hiding:
  • the guns are terribly inconsistent - one game you have comfortable 100K - 120K damage and you hit as expected - the very next game you struggle with 50K-60K damage because almost every sdalvo you fire is straddle but without any hits (or hits are causing so low damage on enemy that it is pathetic)... :Smile-angry:
  • did I mention that she is not "visually beautiful" ? :Smile_glasses:
 

 

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9 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Observations thus far:

  • she is really "ugly duckling"...
  • she is not as bad as many have written - but she is not good either... :Smile_hiding:- Had games with 30 hits only in 18 minutes.
  • the guns are terribly inconsistent - one game you have comfortable 100K - 120K damage and you hit as expected - the very next game you struggle with 50K-60K damage because almost every sdalvo you fire is straddle but without any hits (or hits are causing so low damage on enemy that it is pathetic)... :Smile-angry:
  • did I mention that she is not "visually beautiful" ? :Smile_glasses:
 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

When I caught a Yamato totally broadside 6-7 km away and shot a full at it aaaaand 1 penetration, 1 overpenetration, and rest: miss.

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Hi all,

 

My 3rd and final update... 66 games played... brand new "Yamato" is in my port as of today... :Smile_Default:

 

 

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I played her like my "Musashi"... but "Musashi" she was not... 25.000+ less average damage in my "Izumo" than in my "Musashi" (with same 19 point captain = Isoruku Yamamoto) ... the guns are simply not consistent...

 

 

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On 28/05/2018 at 5:57 PM, Humorpalanta said:

When I caught a Yamato totally broadside 6-7 km away and shot a full at it aaaaand 1 penetration, 1 overpenetration, and rest: miss.

Reminds me of when I met a Yamato semi-broadside at about that distance. There was an island in the way, and I only had one gun available. One shell clipped the cliff wall, so only two left. Result? Two citadels. :cap_win:

 

Disperson can troll you, just like in any other battleship. It just doesn't do it very often. I'm not sure there's any battleship I've played where I've never had a broadside cruiser at that distance only to do pitiful damage. I'm also not sure I've played any battleship where I've never deleted a ship at that distance...

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On 2018. 06. 03. at 5:20 PM, AnotherDuck said:

Reminds me of when I met a Yamato semi-broadside at about that distance. There was an island in the way, and I only had one gun available. One shell clipped the cliff wall, so only two left. Result? Two citadels. :cap_win:

 

Disperson can troll you, just like in any other battleship. It just doesn't do it very often. I'm not sure there's any battleship I've played where I've never had a broadside cruiser at that distance only to do pitiful damage. I'm also not sure I've played any battleship where I've never deleted a ship at that distance...

Broadside Moskva, 3 full rounds: 3 overpenetration, everything else: miss. 7 km away. Izumo is garbage.

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Just thought...

 

Can't wait for the down tiered Premium A Hull Zumo at T8 with a lol raised citadel and other nerfs:Smile_child:

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9 minutes ago, Negativvv said:

Can't wait for the down tiered Premium A Hull Zumo at T8 with a lol raised citadel and other nerfs:Smile_child:

Don't forget overpriced.

 

2 hours ago, Humorpalanta said:

Broadside Moskva, 3 full rounds: 3 overpenetration, everything else: miss. 7 km away. Izumo is garbage.

By that standard, Missouri is garbage.

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19 hours ago, AnotherDuck said:

Don't forget overpriced.

 

By that standard, Missouri is garbage.

I know it was a short comment but I have written a lot about this ship in this topic and I didn't want to repeat myself. So read back to understand, thx.

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On 5/4/2018 at 9:19 PM, Negativvv said:

It isn't "bad" as in rubbish but it's probably the worst out of the T9 BB pack.

I dont have Izumo yet, but I think F. d. Grose is actually the worst T9 BB.

Grose is really, terrible.

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4 hours ago, Humorpalanta said:

I know it was a short comment but I have written a lot about this ship in this topic and I didn't want to repeat myself. So read back to understand, thx.

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1 hour ago, AnotherDuck said:

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Then we cool I guess but you started. :D

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On 04/05/2018 at 9:19 PM, Negativvv said:

Zumo is a huge target with awful concealment. Plus your AA is mediocre to bad and the torp belt isn't amazing. Not the fastest BB either and the engine upgrade is WG's idea of a joke. 

This^^

 

I can't decide if its the ship or the players that sail her but it seems pants.  Watched one yesterday trying to hit something...It was painful and he said they he was aiming (after receiving alot of salt from other players). Oh, and the AP rounds were bouncing off a Missouri only slightly angled too.  So much for heavy shells.

 

They don't fill me with confidence when I have them in the team.  

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Hi all,

 

4 hours ago, Redcap375 said:

This^^

 

I can't decide if its the ship or the players that sail her but it seems pants.  Watched one yesterday trying to hit something...It was painful and he said they he was aiming (after receiving alot of salt from other players). Oh, and the AP rounds were bouncing off a Missouri only slightly angled too.  So much for heavy shells.

 

They don't fill me with confidence when I have them in the team.  

 

The "Izumo" is really not that bad if the player knows how to play BBs (and especially top tier Japanese BBs)...

 

 

Leo "Apollo11"

 

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4 hours ago, Redcap375 said:

This^^

 

I can't decide if its the ship or the players that sail her but it seems pants.  Watched one yesterday trying to hit something...It was painful and he said they he was aiming (after receiving alot of salt from other players). Oh, and the AP rounds were bouncing off a Missouri only slightly angled too.  So much for heavy shells.

 

They don't fill me with confidence when I have them in the team.  

 

I'm not far from it myself, we can test this. I'll be the liability and you take a Taiho to make sure we win anyway. :Smile_teethhappy:

 

Still, I'm intrigued. What's the sigma on Izumo? On paper she has better dispersion than Iowa with the dispersion mod. I've definitely been nailed by Izumos in various cruisers and BBs.

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5 hours ago, Redcap375 said:

This^^

 

I can't decide if its the ship or the players that sail her but it seems pants.  Watched one yesterday trying to hit something...It was painful and he said they he was aiming (after receiving alot of salt from other players). Oh, and the AP rounds were bouncing off a Missouri only slightly angled too.  So much for heavy shells.

 

They don't fill me with confidence when I have them in the team.  

I dont know, he had bad RNG. I saw yesterday @CLyDeThaMonKeY playing Izumo and he had around 110k damage in short time.

Atm im at Amagi, didnt yet bought it but im planing to grind to Yamato. From what I've heard from my friends, izumo is not bad ship when you have B or C hull upgraded.

I have experience playing Dunkirque and Richelie, so I dont think i'll have some problems playing Izumo.

 

 

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2 hours ago, VC381 said:

What's the sigma on Izumo? On paper she has better dispersion than Iowa with the dispersion mod. I've definitely been nailed by Izumos in various cruisers and BBs.

My subjective experience is that she's more accurate than Missouri at similar ranges. It's a bit hard to compare, though, since I play the ships very differently, and I'm often a lot closer in Missouri.

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On 6.6.2018 at 3:46 PM, Hades_warrior said:

I dont know, he had bad RNG. I saw yesterday @CLyDeThaMonKeY playing Izumo and he had around 110k damage in short time.

Atm im at Amagi, didnt yet bought it but im planing to grind to Yamato. From what I've heard from my friends, izumo is not bad ship when you have B or C hull upgraded.

I have experience playing Dunkirque and Richelie, so I dont think i'll have some problems playing Izumo.

 

 

I did the stupid mistake of listening to others instead of trying it for myself. Wasted a lot of doubloons. 
Bought it after playing like crap in the Yamato and really regretted wasting doubloons on skipping the entire ship.
The Izumo learns you how to Yamato aswell imo.
Izumo has crap hull, especially against HE. But the guns.... Man, I love the guns.
 

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17 hours ago, CLyDeThaMonKeY said:

I did the stupid mistake of listening to others instead of trying it for myself. Wasted a lot of doubloons. 
Bought it after playing like crap in the Yamato and really regretted wasting doubloons on skipping the entire ship.
The Izumo learns you how to Yamato aswell imo.
Izumo has crap hull, especially against HE. But the guns.... Man, I love the guns.
 

Are B or C hulls any better against fire?

Is Izumo viable for secondary build?  They have solid fire chance and some guns are also AP. I heard Yamato secondarys are deadly for DDs or cruisers in closer range.

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16 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

Are B or C hulls any better against fire?

Is Izumo viable for secondary build?  They have solid fire chance and some guns are also AP. I heard Yamato secondarys are deadly for DDs or cruisers in closer range.

I went for full tank build. FP especially. Izumo likes to burn.... :P 
Secondaries are sub-par and not worth it since you have to sacrifice tankbuild

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9 minutes ago, CLyDeThaMonKeY said:

I went for full tank build. FP especially. Izumo likes to burn.... :P 
Secondaries are sub-par and not worth it since you have to sacrifice tankbuild

I see. So Japs are all the way tanks.

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