How do I report a cheater?

[eliastion]

9 hours ago, Ze_Reckless said:

Don't bother. I had a ranked battle last season where our BB gave full broadside to the last survivor who was his clan mate. Instead of farming him undetected over the island he went into line of sight, shot, gave broadside and slowed down.

This is what support had to say about that:

 

 

It's all fine and dandy. The Kidd player on his team who was second by 77xp and lost the star would approve. 

Problem is, your assumptions in this situation REALLY can't be proven. Just yesterday our team absolutely wrecked the enemy. When everything was decided (and I slightly angry for not having done all that much) I went after the last remaining Yamato. It wasn't very smart or very well exacuted. He managed to line up a nice salvo and deleted me from ~75% hp. I EDIT up so hard that it was really an infusion of free XP for him. Problem is, if he was my clanmate, I would probably have wanted to kill him even more - so the chances of me going after him like an idiot (and dying stupidly as I did) would probably look to someone like you like match rigging.

It's really hard to discern with certainty people who do stupid things on purpose because so many people - even decent players - do stupid things unintentionally, compelled by a sudden brainfart. And it's usually better to err on the side of assumed innocence - there are few things as offputting as being wrongfully accused and punished, so Support side obviously won't go after cases that aren't very clear.

[hollowbaron]

Just think in all the time you have been asking about the best way to report a player who did nothing personal to you. If instead you had just played a few games you could have got the Varyag for free and carried all the games at your tier.

 

Everyone complains about CV not being fixed as well as a host of other things. This is part of the reason. Weekenders who play a few low tier battles while drunk, get mad their team as they lack skill to carry a game, then rant either on forum or to WG as if they are actually of any importance to either.

 

 

[Ze_Reckless]

7 hours ago, eliastion said:

Problem is, your assumptions in this situation REALLY can't be proven. Just yesterday our team absolutely wrecked the enemy. When everything was decided (and I slightly angry for not having done all that much) I went after the last remaining Yamato. It wasn't very smart or very well exacuted. He managed to line up a nice salvo and deleted me from ~75% hp. I EDIT up so hard that it was really an infusion of free XP for him. Problem is, if he was my clanmate, I would probably have wanted to kill him even more - so the chances of me going after him like an idiot (and dying stupidly as I did) would probably look to someone like you like match rigging.

It's really hard to discern with certainty people who do stupid things on purpose because so many people - even decent players - do stupid things unintentionally, compelled by a sudden brainfart. And it's usually better to err on the side of assumed innocence - there are few things as offputting as being wrongfully accused and punished, so Support side obviously won't go after cases that aren't very clear.

 

Our BB knew how to angle and he played really well. Then in the end he could have fired undetected, but he went out between the islands so he would be spotted when firing. We already had won, we had all caps and the last enemy was running. It was pretty obvious. Though you need to know how the game mechanics work to see that. Maybe support guys are as knowledgeable about the game as your average WoWS player.

[eliastion]

1 hour ago, Ze_Reckless said:

 

Our BB knew how to angle and he played really well. Then in the end he could have fired undetected, but he went out between the islands so he would be spotted when firing. We already had won, we had all caps and the last enemy was running. It was pretty obvious. Though you need to know how the game mechanics work to see that. Maybe support guys are as knowledgeable about the game as your average WoWS player.

I also know better than to try and charge a Yamato in Zao. Didn't exactly save me from doing just that and being deleted - despite not even having the extra incentive of wanting to finish off a clanmate (since the Yamato player was completely anonymous to me). There were plenty of things I could've done:

1. keeping distance (and one of the many islands available) between me and the target

2. holding my fire until the last moment (to only get detected within gun-silent concealment range, making a successful torpedo run much more likely)

3. not heading completely head-on (thus making it as easy as possible to citadel me through the bow)

It was a huge brainfart in a situation where the entire team could've gone AFK and we would've won regardless. We had 5 ships surviving (to their 1) and held 3/3 caps (although Yamato was inside one of them) and out points were approaching the threshold pretty fast.

I didn't need to get spotted, I didn't need to die, I could've scored some damage without exposing myself to danger - and attacking Yamato in the first place was completely unnecessary at that point. I, literally, died for a torp run that didn't even happen, becoming - in the last minute of a won match - a nigh-impossible to miss 75% hp XP piniata for the enemy Yamato. From your attitude I'm pretty sure that - if I and Yamato were clanmates and you witnessed what happened - I'd find myself on the receiving end of your accusations. What's more, I'm almost certain that I would make the same mistake (in fact, I'd be even more likely to make it) had the Yamato actually been someone I knew (and thus wanted to kill - I want to kill everyone I know ). This makes me think that it's actually VERY likely that the BB on your team really just got careless, too focused on getting all turrets on target to kill his clanmate. The match is won, tension and concentration go out the window and there's a priority target you don't want just dead: you want him dead by your hand, since it's a clanmate. This really sounds like a perfect set-up for dumb moves that get you killed, regardless of previously demonstrated skill level.

 

Of course, it might also be as you say. They might've been on TS and talking to each other. Or the guy on the winning team might've just taken pity on clanmate and wanted to "donate XP". Problem is - there is no way to prove it and the scenario that doesn't assume foul play is perfectly reasonable, even if the guy that died never made similar mistakes before the match was effectively decided. Assuming ill will, when the situation can be easily explained without it, isn't very prudent. And sure, assuming otherwise can let actual offenders off the hook, but the general stance of our civilization is that it's better to not punish the guilty person than to dispense unwarranted punishment upon innocent.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

omg u serious ? with all my games , i could report 100k players XD for play poor and throw my wins away

[Ze_Reckless]

17 hours ago, eliastion said:

Spoiler

 

I also know better than to try and charge a Yamato in Zao. Didn't exactly save me from doing just that and being deleted - despite not even having the extra incentive of wanting to finish off a clanmate (since the Yamato player was completely anonymous to me). There were plenty of things I could've done:

1. keeping distance (and one of the many islands available) between me and the target

2. holding my fire until the last moment (to only get detected within gun-silent concealment range, making a successful torpedo run much more likely)

3. not heading completely head-on (thus making it as easy as possible to citadel me through the bow)

It was a huge brainfart in a situation where the entire team could've gone AFK and we would've won regardless. We had 5 ships surviving (to their 1) and held 3/3 caps (although Yamato was inside one of them) and out points were approaching the threshold pretty fast.

I didn't need to get spotted, I didn't need to die, I could've scored some damage without exposing myself to danger - and attacking Yamato in the first place was completely unnecessary at that point. I, literally, died for a torp run that didn't even happen, becoming - in the last minute of a won match - a nigh-impossible to miss 75% hp XP piniata for the enemy Yamato. From your attitude I'm pretty sure that - if I and Yamato were clanmates and you witnessed what happened - I'd find myself on the receiving end of your accusations. What's more, I'm almost certain that I would make the same mistake (in fact, I'd be even more likely to make it) had the Yamato actually been someone I knew (and thus wanted to kill - I want to kill everyone I know ). This makes me think that it's actually VERY likely that the BB on your team really just got careless, too focused on getting all turrets on target to kill his clanmate. The match is won, tension and concentration go out the window and there's a priority target you don't want just dead: you want him dead by your hand, since it's a clanmate. This really sounds like a perfect set-up for dumb moves that get you killed, regardless of previously demonstrated skill level.

 

Of course, it might also be as you say. They might've been on TS and talking to each other. Or the guy on the winning team might've just taken pity on clanmate and wanted to "donate XP". Problem is - there is no way to prove it and the scenario that doesn't assume foul play is perfectly reasonable, even if the guy that died never made similar mistakes before the match was effectively decided. Assuming ill will, when the situation can be easily explained without it, isn't very prudent. And sure, assuming otherwise can let actual offenders off the hook, but the general stance of our civilization is that it's better to not punish the guilty person than to dispense unwarranted punishment upon innocent.

 

 

 

Thank you for that well-worded post, you are absolutely right.

[Seaman_Staines1]

On 4/30/2018 at 8:13 PM, Tubit101 said:

Hello. Just a quick question. I have replay footage and screenshots of a player throwing a game. What is WG's email address for reporting such things? I have tried searching, but found nothing.