Spartican93 Players 1 post 84 battles Report post #1 Posted April 30, 2018 I'm a relatively new player. Played this in closed alpha for a couple hundred games and then played on release on a different account. I was an average player at best but now im back on a new account and im doing pretty well in my opinion. My only issue is the dreaded "Pink name". Now i know people reading this are expecting to see a "I fired torps close to a friendly and he turned into them" but that isnt the case. I understand that as soon as i send my torps, if i hit a friendly, then thats on me, im fine with that. My issue is that i fired torpedos in the opposite direction of a friendly and then watched him turn and chase the torpedos, even crashing into an island just so that i would get team damage. I'm now pink name because of this and am worried that if this was to happen once or twice more im going to get banned because someone likes the idea of chasing down green torps. I'm all for the team damage mechanic and the reflection of damage, But surely there is another way to deal with this, granted, i dont have any ideas as to what though. It'd be interesting to know what other people think/ have seen. TL;DR - : Friendly purposefully chased my torps and im now pink name because of it. Side note: I'm sorry if this is the wrong section, tbh i didnt really know where to post this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #2 Posted April 30, 2018 Here were go again... Even the slowest ship torpedos are much faster than the fastest ship. NO ship in this game can chase and catch torpedos. If your torpedos hit a friendly, he was before you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #3 Posted April 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, TyskaViha said: I understand that as soon as i send my torps, if i hit a friendly, then thats on me, im fine with that. As Pete said torps are faster than ships. If it was somehow possible for a friendly to get in front of them, on purpose or not, you shouldn't have fired. Sorry, but that's the extent of your responsibility and you said you're OK with that. I've slapped myself on the hand many times when thinking "I could torp that guy, I'm sure my friendly won't turn". In the end it's not worth the risk. Don't worry though, it's fairly easy to clear pink and you won't get banned that fast. You might be forced to play co-op a dozen games if you do it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PapVogele Beta Tester 290 posts 3,590 battles Report post #4 Posted April 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, VC381 said: As Pete said torps are faster than ships. If it was somehow possible for a friendly to get in front of them, on purpose or not, you shouldn't have fired. Sorry, but that's the extent of your responsibility and you said you're OK with that. I've slapped myself on the hand many times when thinking "I could torp that guy, I'm sure my friendly won't turn". In the end it's not worth the risk. Don't worry though, it's fairly easy to clear pink and you won't get banned that fast. You might be forced to play co-op a dozen games if you do it again. 22 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Here were go again... Even the slowest ship torpedos are much faster than the fastest ship. NO ship in this game can chase and catch torpedos. If your torpedos hit a friendly, he was before you. This is simply not true, there are torpedoea that go 35-45 knots, speeds which are achievable by some of the fastest destroyers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #5 Posted April 30, 2018 52 minutes ago, TyskaViha said: My issue is that i fired torpedos in the opposite direction of a friendly and then watched him turn and chase the torpedos, even crashing into an island just so that i would get team damage. Enable replays, record the situation you're describing and bring it here - otherwise, I'm afraid, nobody will believe you since the situation doesn't seem physically possible with currently available torpedoes and ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AKI] keya_kin Players 80 posts 22,635 battles Report post #6 Posted April 30, 2018 You're not realy gonna get banned for this reason, only turning pink and perhaps be forced to play coop for a while. Just avoid landing torps on friendlies for a while and everything will be fine. Don't worry, everyone turns pink at least once here ^^ Also, spamming the minimap and telling them that torps are incomming might help your teammates not to hug those little buggers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #7 Posted April 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, PapVogele said: This is simply not true, there are torpedoea that go 35-45 knots, speeds which are achievable by some of the fastest destroyers. These are not ship torpedos... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #8 Posted April 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: These are not ship torpedos... Also, the slowest torps are in bottom tiers, which do not face speed boosted t10 DDs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DC_DK] hgbn_dk Players 3,370 posts 44,373 battles Report post #9 Posted April 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Here were go again... Even the slowest ship torpedos are much faster than the fastest ship. NO ship in this game can chase and catch torpedos. If your torpedos hit a friendly, he was before you. Think you're wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #10 Posted April 30, 2018 You are not getting banned for this. At worst you get damage reflected back at you and forced into coop. This is such a rare occurance, if you watch your torps, you shouldn't have this issue. I played like 2k games and while I have been pink, I cannot claim with any degree of certainty that any of these occurances was because others purposefully steered into my torp spread. So, don't worry about it happening again and just play like usual, carefully. If you really are too afraid, play something without torpedoes (or very short ranged ones that never see use). It's far harder to purposefully run into your salvo and catch those shells. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #11 Posted April 30, 2018 If a friendly is in the line of fire don't launch torps. It really is as simple as that. As the person who launched them it is your responcibility to make sure they don't hit a friendly. Having been torped by friendlies on four seperate occasions this weekend (way above the usual, I might add) I am severely short on sympathy for you. In fact, I do belive that's more team torping than I got in the preceding three months combined.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #12 Posted April 30, 2018 This reminds me: I got killed by 'friendly' torps fired from ludicrously close range this weekend, which killed me in one go. The bit that confused me was that the firing ship died almost instantly too, almost as if he was caught in the blast of his own torps, which I didn't think was possible (arming distance, and all that). Although I don't have a replay, can anyone guess what might have happened? The guy was showing -2 kills at the end of the battle. My best guess is that I missed the first friendly kill (which would have turned him pink), and the damage from killing me all rebounded on him, killing him at the same moment as me; am I wildly incorrect? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #13 Posted April 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, Verblonde said: This reminds me: I got killed by 'friendly' torps fired from ludicrously close range this weekend, which killed me in one go. The bit that confused me was that the firing ship died almost instantly too, almost as if he was caught in the blast of his own torps, which I didn't think was possible (arming distance, and all that). Although I don't have a replay, can anyone guess what might have happened? The guy was showing -2 kills at the end of the battle. My best guess is that I missed the first friendly kill (which would have turned him pink), and the damage from killing me all rebounded on him, killing him at the same moment as me; am I wildly incorrect? Sounds like that is exactly what happened, to be honest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #14 Posted April 30, 2018 1 minute ago, lafeel said: Sounds like that is exactly what happened, to be honest. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DSF] Arakus Beta Tester 1,541 posts 7,511 battles Report post #15 Posted April 30, 2018 Replay or it didn't happen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VC381 Players 2,928 posts 6,549 battles Report post #16 Posted April 30, 2018 46 minutes ago, Verblonde said: and the damage from killing me all rebounded on him, killing him at the same moment as me; am I wildly incorrect? I saw an Asashio torp across a cap. He hit a friendly Tirpitz just hard enough to trigger pink+damage reflection but not sink him. The Tirpitz proceeded to let himself flood and watch the Asashio (who was spamming apologies almost to the point of grovelling) die from reflected damage before using DCP to save himself just in time. Priceless trolling! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,664 battles Report post #17 Posted April 30, 2018 1 hour ago, VC381 said: I saw an Asashio torp across a cap. He hit a friendly Tirpitz just hard enough to trigger pink+damage reflection but not sink him. The Tirpitz proceeded to let himself flood and watch the Asashio (who was spamming apologies almost to the point of grovelling) die from reflected damage before using DCP to save himself just in time. Priceless trolling! I had that happen to me the other week, only with fire - I started a single fire on a BB that I accidentally clipped with one out of lots of HE rounds I fired. He didn't put the fire out (can't fault him for that), and I sank from reflected damage. Entirely my own silly fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NECRO] Deckeru_Maiku Beta Tester 6,636 posts 24,864 battles Report post #18 Posted April 30, 2018 I use every chance I get to teach people to not shoot torpedoes in the (possible) direction of an ally. Like today... Battle was nearly won already, only two enemy St. Louis' (the T3 one) and a single BB were left. The St.Louis's were going down near the map edge, far away from our cap - standard battle - with a BB and a cruiser of our team nearby. Enemy BB was attacked in it's own cap by a DD from our side... So I set course to support our DD and get a bite out of that cap (and maybe the BB too) in my Vampire. Shortly before I arrived at the cap, the BB went down. And when I entered the cap, our DD launched two full spreads of torps in my general direction. I slowed down, but only managed to get hit by one - which I couldn't have evaded if I had tried... I just failed at getting hit by more - but I didn't get sunk by the damage, as it was only around 4k or so. Enough to turn the other DD pink immediately and - tadaa - to reflect all the flooding damage to him... He started explaining and whining and begged me to repair... and when I asked him why he torped me in the first place, he explained that he misclicked (!!!) as he wanted to shoot his guns (!!!) at the island behind me. Okay... shooting guns by clicking on the icon? Naah, dude, you deserve to sink... When I still declined to repair, he said "then I'll torp you again..." and tried to - except the still sinking enemy BB was between us (I had taken special care to have it as cover ) and his torps didn't do anything.. Shortly later he sank due to reflected damage... and I repaired. And the last enemy ship got sunk maybe 30 seconds or so later... Feels good man! 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] GermanBoomercaustEnjoyer [2DQT] Players 143 posts 18,568 battles Report post #19 Posted January 26, 2021 Sorry for "necrothread" but what was here said in terms of not getting banned for not on purpose team damage/kills is incorrect. WG staff can look into this at any time (ticket ID 129358726). Five days ago (21.01.2021) I got banned for two days for damaging a friendly player (on purpose - replay 2) the last 1-2 minutes before the match ended, after the player on purpose denied playing the match at all. It was wrong to let my frustration take over and breaking this games unsportsmanlike conduct but I got what I asked for - that game ban was fully deserved on my end. Fast forward to today (26.01.2020) - I tried to login into my account a few hours ago while getting greeted by a game suspension till the 29th - I haven´t received any mail notification whatsoever (I checked all mails including my junk/spam folder). I have played since my first game ban 30 games where only a single incident occurred where I dealt damage to friendly players. This match (replay 1 attached) a player (jaguar 10-15 minutes into the game on A/B cap) on my team drove into my torps and died after he was chased by half the enemy team and was less then 10% of his ship HP - the torpedos were clearly for the enemy BB´s that pushed the flank that game - that was the only incident I know of the past 3 days where anything in terms of "unsportsmanlike conduct" could apply for. Support told me that "The friendly fire of each player is in fact calculated taking into account the amount of damage caused and the frequency in which these accidents follow one another in a given period of time." - how can out of 30 games be a single torpedo that wasn´t supposed to hit the friendly ship end up as 3 day game ban? That is just wrong. I contacted Sehales on this matter already after support denied any actual "investigation" (since support themself always reminds about not appealing any "unsportsmanlike conduct" bans - kinda contradicted when you indeed can open a ticket for this reason). Replay 1 beeing the game that got me banned today (yudachi) Replay 2 is the one that first ever game ban (vermont the mentioned above one) 20210125_201755_PJSD507-Yudachi_17_NA_fault_line.wowsreplay 20210120_222411_PASB110-Vermont_19_OC_prey (1).wowsreplay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #20 Posted January 26, 2021 You were probably at probation and this, usually harmless, rule breaking was handled more strictly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] GermanBoomercaustEnjoyer [2DQT] Players 143 posts 18,568 battles Report post #21 Posted January 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: You were probably at probation and this, usually harmless, rule breaking was handed more strictly. I have been torped countless times by friendly players since I play the game, I got team killed on purpose/by accident but I never thought about going that far to actually consider writing an ticket for any of these players. If WG thinks this the correct way of using an "automated" system then me and everyone I know will in the futur write a ticket the moment they "similar" things in their matches. This is clearly showing what a lot of members of this forum mentioned countless times - support is indeed not looking always into ticket cases and actually do what they write in their automated replies cause this is FAR from "careful investigation". Here we are - 3 days ban for this is making me wanna quit the game if I have to fear that anyone that drives into me, stands infront of me or drives into torps in the futur could mean another ban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #22 Posted January 26, 2021 Writing a ticket is not automated. The situation is not nice, but it might remind you to be more careful in the future. That teamkill was completly avoidable from your side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pow_tae_toe Players 108 posts 8,580 battles Report post #23 Posted January 26, 2021 On 4/30/2018 at 5:01 PM, ColonelPete said: Here were go again... Even the slowest ship torpedos are much faster than the fastest ship. NO ship in this game can chase and catch torpedos. If your torpedos hit a friendly, he was before you. Pretty sure the Yolo Emilio with 60 kts can outrun some of the IJN 56kts torps... (Yudachi) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #24 Posted January 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Pow_tae_toe said: Pretty sure the Yolo Emilio with 60 kts can outrun some of the IJN 56kts torps... (Yudachi) Pretty sure we did not have an Emilio in game in 2018... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pow_tae_toe Players 108 posts 8,580 battles Report post #25 Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, ColonelPete said: Pretty sure we did not have an Emilio in game in 2018... Well, you're right :D didn't see this was a necro :D sry bout that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
