Season 9 Tier 10 - Why am I so bad?

[Ysterpyp]

to many of this?

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[Yaskaraxx]

7 hours ago, _VAMPA_ said:

Yes thats the idea of ranked git gud or get out.....

....not the time and nerves of 6 players to be wasted, because 1 imbek that does not belong there is forced to play again and again, in bracket for which he is NOT understanding what to do & how to do it...

Ranked is all about skill cap

 

ITS Irritating/frustrating to 6 other players that are forced to play with that imbek.

 

Please WG show mercy. DO NOT FORCE imbeks to play in bracket 10-6.

They want too to win some battles....Let them go back in 15-11.

 

 

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for players like you they should deny access to any  form of PvP

 

 

lollol, anyway yr above comment exactly pinpoints the core problem here(!)...but I am not gonna explain to you the importance of ENTERTAINMENT and FUN for the great majority of (game-supporting!) playerbase while doing gaming: fun and entertainment provides the main DRIVE to do any gamings (..for me personnaly it is, 100% sure it is). Seems it's no use for me trying to explain this aspect to you. Anyway, yr entitled to yr opinion, I respect other peoples opinions. Leaves me with only one question to you: taking into account only the players which "live-up" to yr "high standards"..and thus are "qualified" (lol) to play ranks..... I mean..HOW MANY actually are there...?

 

imo comments made on forums should be objective and constructive to the game in general. What I meant with my previous entry was a proposal of following: when a player proved being able to reach rank 10 in earlier seasons then let him keep that rank (shown in random battles in front of name). If needed give it another colour or so, but don't take away any past achievements (..caus that would certainly de-motivate players). And fcaus previous achievement should have NO IMPACT whatsoever on current ranks ongoing. This would mean, for instance, for me, that I would not even need to bother present ranks caus I allready got my ranks 10 title as an achievement from past play. That's all I wanna propose

 

I allways liked WOWS (..and still do). It's a game with real great potential in time to reach a stable enthousiastic playerbase of at least 70K (at least). I would much like to see this happen in time. So, lets hope.

 

(BTW...VAMPA: notice yr present EMBLEM is about doing "high damage" whereas my emblem (PanAsian DD Elite) is about ending up 1-3 place winning battles; PanAsian Elite is far more difficult to obtain since it is about: excellently supporting yr team to a winning battle...think of that....)

[Andyphone]

I see too many getting frustrated here and also in game   Explanations, reasons and advices given in this topic are very interesting. Anyway never forget it's a game 

 

[Gnirf]

12 hours ago, _VAMPA_ said:

Did i say opposite?
This is why i'm only R5 atm, not R1.

you can write home about @kytis (first to rank1 i think) and @tedkac

 

@Gnirf  when the bracket is full of those and they play important class as DD believe me wasting time(71 fknbattles) in rank 8 until i decide my exact play style and ship..is really annoying.

and precious moment when u get same 2 20%wr mummys in ur team battle after battle...just because they cant drop out...

every one that ever played full duration of ranked battles can say that making R10 irrevocable is retarded move from WG.

you are right about that waiting a little before you jump in ranked is smart but i want to rankout in first week :( not gonna be possible this season

 

71 battles at T8? understand your frustration! Therefor I will never have the will to spend the effort to go for r1. Can people that spend 1500 fights reach R1 I can naturally do it but I do not have the stamina to play ranked even 300 battles or whatever it would take, playing rather random in ships that I like than adhering to a specific meta, and certain ships.

[loppantorkel]

Question is - do you invest time now when you've got those that climb the fastest, aka unicums, in the matches, or do you wait to the end of the season when only the leftovers are slogging it out? Both teams will consist of equally skilled players at an average.

[_VAMPA_]

7 hours ago, Yaskaraxx said:

lollol, anyway yr above comment exactly pinpoints the core problem here(!)...but I am not gonna explain to you the importance of ENTERTAINMENT and FUN for the great majority of (game-supporting!) playerbase while doing gaming: fun and entertainment provides the main DRIVE to do any gamings (..for me personnaly it is, 100% sure it is). Seems it's no use for me trying to explain this aspect to you. Anyway, yr entitled to yr opinion, I respect other peoples opinions. Leaves me with only one question to you: taking into account only the players which "live-up" to yr "high standards"..and thus are "qualified" (lol) to play ranks..... I mean..HOW MANY actually are there...?

 

imo comments made on forums should be objective and constructive to the game in general. What I meant with my previous entry was a proposal of following: when a player proved being able to reach rank 10 in earlier seasons then let him keep that rank (shown in random battles in front of name). If needed give it another colour or so, but don't take away any past achievements (..caus that would certainly de-motivate players). And fcaus previous achievement should have NO IMPACT whatsoever on current ranks ongoing. This would mean, for instance, for me, that I would not even need to bother present ranks caus I allready got my ranks 10 title as an achievement from past play. That's all I wanna propose

 

I allways liked WOWS (..and still do). It's a game with real great potential in time to reach a stable enthousiastic playerbase of at least 70K (at least). I would much like to see this happen in time. So, lets hope.

 

(BTW...VAMPA: notice yr present EMBLEM is about doing "high damage" whereas my emblem (PanAsian DD Elite) is about ending up 1-3 place winning battles; PanAsian Elite is far more difficult to obtain since it is about: excellently supporting yr team to a winning battle...think of that....)

lel u can get that emblem by spamming battles i have some national elite forces...Class elite Force is about consistency in 100 battles not for grinding. And i`m Cruiser player, guess why im with

Destroyer Elite Force?

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Because i love to destroy all kind of ships in every class out there in TX.
Class Elite Force is only one that requires TX consistent performance no matter how low that DMG is.

As for keeping your rank to show in front of your nickname - Yes of course..

And what is the problem when you reach rank 10 and drop out to reach it again?

you can than stop playing right?

or wait 1 week and play not really matters.

Idea is that when first week you move through that 10-6 Bracket you dont have to play with worst of the playerbase because they drop out and so...
...10-6  was supposed to become toxic and unplayble after 7days......5-2 after 2weeks....

And im telling you that because I`m ranking out 2 account my AllSheeepsPleb account and minime not so plebysh looking.

Also you can drop out to grind some different ship in lowerbracket just because its easier there

(no matter that current season is TX and there is almost no grind but in general i have done that every season before that one grinding commander keeping my self in lower bracket or ships in season6 i get all d xp or toped few of them in lower brackets than moved in premier with toped ships)

 

Currently WG is forcing players that are not suited for 10-6 to play there, they cant drop out having their great battles and get through 10-6 in week or 2 later, when Unicums are long ago @r1...and avrg.players as me are just rankedout or will in few battles...Things are moving in as healthy as possible way, atm 10-6 is cancer nobody will care after 10 days because First league is total crap after 10days every season.

 

about how many players are in R5-2 you can check here https://wows-numbers.com/season/id,9/?order=current_rank__asc#leaderboard

there also u can track how WR of different ships drops through the season just 2 days ago Khaba was above 56% and DesMo somewhere there 55% or something like that now with advance of the Season all TXs get their % averaged to 50%

 

no matter that it not updates very often we can see that in bracket R5-2 there is more than 300players and 4 are R1^^

[B010011A]

22 minutes ago, _VAMPA_ said:

lel u can get that emblem by spamming battles i have some national elite forces...Class elite Force is about consistency in 100 battles not for grinding. And i`m Cruiser player, guess why im with

Destroyer Elite Force?

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Because i love to destroy all kind of ships in every class out there in TX.
Class Elite Force is only one that requires TX consistent performance no matter how low that DMG is.

As for keeping your rank to show in front of your nickname - Yes of course..

And what is the problem when you reach rank 10 and drop out to reach it again?

you can than stop playing right?

or wait 1 week and play not really matters.

Idea is that when first week you move through that 10-6 Bracket you dont have to play with worst of the playerbase because they drop out and so...
...10-6  was supposed to become toxic and unplayble after 7days......5-2 after 2weeks....

And im telling you that because I`m ranking out 2 account my AllSheeepsPleb account and minime not so plebysh looking.

Also you can drop out to grind some different ship in lowerbracket just because its easier there

(no matter that current season is TX and there is almost no grind but in general i have done that every season before that one grinding commander keeping my self in lower bracket or ships in season6 i get all d xp or toped few of them in lower brackets than moved in premier with toped ships)

 

Currently WG is forcing players that are not suited for 10-6 to play there, they cant drop out having their great battles and get through 10-6 in week or 2 later, when Unicums are long ago @r1...and avrg.players as me are just rankedout or will in few battles...Things are moving in as healthy as possible way, atm 10-6 is cancer nobody will care after 10 days because First league is total crap after 10days every season.

 

about how many players are in R5-2 you can check here https://wows-numbers.com/season/id,9/?order=current_rank__asc#leaderboard

there also u can track how WR of different ships drops through the season just 2 days ago Khaba was above 56% and DesMo somewhere there 55% or something like that now with advance of the Season all TXs get their % averaged to 50%

 

no matter that it not updates very often we can see that in bracket R5-2 there is more than 300players and 4 are R1^^

I just got Rank5 and stopped playing. Was a real pleasure to play from rank7 to 5 cause i was focused and lost only 1 star i think. Took me 102 games from rank 16 to 5 with a 57% of WR. I would be able to play till the next free days from work. I wish i still find good players in the premier league.

[_VAMPA_]

Just now, B010011A said:

I just got Rank5 and stopped playing. Was a real pleasure to play from rank7 to 5 cause i was focused and lost only 1 star i think. Took me 102 games from rank 16 to 5 with a 57% of WR. I would be able to play till the next free days from work. I wish i still find good players in the premier league.

well Tuesday obviously will be the rankout day this season lol

I also get great season yesterday(16b4defeats1starlostR8.1->R5). long season will be able to play again in Sat.Sun and maybe Monday lol

[Yaskaraxx]

1 hour ago, _VAMPA_ said:

lel u can get that emblem by spamming battles i have some national elite forces...Class elite Force is about consistency in 100 battles not for grinding. And i`m Cruiser player, guess why im with

Destroyer Elite Force?

 

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Because i love to destroy all kind of ships in every class out there in TX.
Class Elite Force is only one that requires TX consistent performance no matter how low that DMG is.

 

congrats(!), i noticed you reached rank 3 season 9, quite an excellent accomplishment! re the emblems, well, PanAsian Fleet Elite is kind of "bar of Platinum" compared to class elite fleet destroyer (=bar of gold, only, lol). but go for it: i see you have YueYang + Loyang so try to get that emblem (= real difficult, capping, cat&mouse close range with enemy radar, knifefights other dd's, doing reasonable good damage + winning the battle + ending 1-3 place..succeed in all and you win 1x point; actually those difficult fights are real challenging/entertaining and fun, so, go for it, the hard way, as I did). each random battle you see a couple of class dd elite emblems whereas PanAsian Elite Emblems are very rare (...requires lots of creativity and skills to get those )..so..go for it and try to impress me!.

[_VAMPA_]

6 minutes ago, Yaskaraxx said:

congrats(!), i noticed you reached rank 3 season 9, quite an excellent accomplishment! re the emblems, well, PanAsian Fleet Elite is kind of "bar of Platinum" compared to class elite fleet destroyer (=bar of gold, only, lol). but go for it: i see you have YueYang + Loyang so try to get that emblem (= real difficult, capping, cat&mouse close range with enemy radar, knifefights other dd's, doing reasonable good damage + winning the battle + ending 1-3 place..succeed in all and you win 1x point; actually those difficult fights are real challenging/entertaining and fun, so, go for it, the hard way, as I did). each random battle you see a couple of class dd elite emblems whereas PanAsian Elite Emblems are very rare (...requires lots of creativity and skills to get those )..so..go for it and try to impress me!.

i have Lo YY on both accounts lol but actialy only national emblem that i like is USSR Class 3 the first one, brings some memorys from my yearly childhood.....and PureStalinum unfortunately USSR Elite Force looks like stolen interior from some DiscoFag** bar..... :(  btw u can check that last 21 1 days i have allmost only defeats in my YY on main account so form 68%ship.... worst teams i give YY at least 1month brake

[Yaskaraxx]

19 minutes ago, _VAMPA_ said:

i have Lo YY on both accounts lol but actialy only national emblem that i like is USSR Class 3 the first one, brings some memorys from my yearly childhood.....and PureStalinum unfortunately USSR Elite Force looks like stolen interior from some DiscoFag** bar..... :(  btw u can check that last 21 1 days i have allmost only defeats in my YY on main account so form 68%ship.... worst teams i give YY at least 1month brake

i kind of like the Russian emblems, especially the elite emblem (looks great), but, imo kind of VERY difficult to accumulate points for them: what kind of ships to use for that? cruisers have to stay mostly at distance, can do good damage(!) yeah, BUT then there were the Montana, Conqueror etc. i mean the tier X BB's which very often go for your place 1-3 even when you do an excellent game with say yr Moskva. so, very difficult & challenging to obtain the Russian elite emblem (can tell you this: i personally would never succeed getting that emblem, in say, the next 10 years or so lollol). And using Khabarovsk...also difficult, caus it can do say a 120k damage, but still end-up place 4/5 since damage done doesn't allways mean enough high XP (=1-3rd place)

 

and PanAsian Elite Emblem, well, getting the points there for sure realy requires that you have to get "very up-close" to caps/radar/enemy dd's..otherwise you simply can't go for XP-place 1-3 which is required. very often you see that even when you play an excellent battle you still end 4th or 5th place caus Mino or Des Moines and BB's did even better, but then again, that's the challenge. anyway, most important: those battles are very challenging but real entertaining. Was last comment of mine. enjoy the game & bye

[_VAMPA_]

On 5/3/2018 at 3:01 AM, Yaskaraxx said:

i kind of like the Russian emblems, especially the elite emblem (looks great), but, imo kind of VERY difficult to accumulate points for them: what kind of ships to use for that? cruisers have to stay mostly at distance, can do good damage(!) yeah, BUT then there were the Montana, Conqueror etc. i mean the tier X BB's which very often go for your place 1-3 even when you do an excellent game with say yr Moskva. so, very difficult & challenging to obtain the Russian elite emblem (can tell you this: i personally would never succeed getting that emblem, in say, the next 10 years or so lollol). And using Khabarovsk...also difficult, caus it can do say a 120k damage, but still end-up place 4/5 since damage done doesn't allways mean enough high XP (=1-3rd place)

 

and PanAsian Elite Emblem, well, getting the points there for sure realy requires that you have to get "very up-close" to caps/radar/enemy dd's..otherwise you simply can't go for XP-place 1-3 which is required. very often you see that even when you play an excellent battle you still end 4th or 5th place caus Mino or Des Moines and BB's did even better, but then again, that's the challenge. anyway, most important: those battles are very challenging but real entertaining. Was last comment of mine. enjoy the game & bye

sorry for late answer 3days too much work...

Khaba is best for RU Elite emblem but she looks like stolen from that video kek
 

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[Yaskaraxx]

2 hours ago, _VAMPA_ said:

sorry for late answer 3days too much work...

Khaba is best for RU Elite emblem but she looks like stolen from that video kek
 

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Well, doesn't matter for me anymore. Present Ranks Season (ohh, man, what horrible..sooo frustrating...6 stars up & 5 stars down etc. such horrible teams, such a big frustration) for a full 100% took away my drive to play this game any longer, not worth my time any longer. Previous ranks I always had rank 10 (was ok with me) but present ranks season 9 fully denies me my rank 10. I put a lot of time & effort in previous ranks to get my rank 10...but seems they now stole it away from me (whats next: gonna take away my Elite EMBLEM also, after a while?). why not let players keep their old ranks (they obtained them in previous ranks, so, they are entitled to their rank), give it some other colour & don't let it have any impact fcaus on present ranks. That way players don't have to bother the irritating/frustrating ranks say each 3 months or so. Would be ok for me (& many others). But no, they take something away from players (their old ranks) and say: go play again for it (= 100 battles agony, forced upon players, again). But I dont like playing ranks. And I REALY dislike seeing rank 15 in front of my name each random battle. This is tooo much for me, or as they say: A BRIDGE TO FAR. So, goodbye & lets say after 12 months I will take another look at this game to see whats changed. bye

[_VAMPA_]

4 hours ago, Yaskaraxx said:

Well, doesn't matter for me anymore. Present Ranks Season (ohh, man, what horrible..sooo frustrating...6 stars up & 5 stars down etc. such horrible teams, such a big frustration) for a full 100% took away my drive to play this game any longer, not worth my time any longer. Previous ranks I always had rank 10 (was ok with me) but present ranks season 9 fully denies me my rank 10. I put a lot of time & effort in previous ranks to get my rank 10...but seems they now stole it away from me (whats next: gonna take away my Elite EMBLEM also, after a while?). why not let players keep their old ranks (they obtained them in previous ranks, so, they are entitled to their rank), give it some other colour & don't let it have any impact fcaus on present ranks. That way players don't have to bother the irritating/frustrating ranks say each 3 months or so. Would be ok for me (& many others). But no, they take something away from players (their old ranks) and say: go play again for it (= 100 battles agony, forced upon players, again). But I dont like playing ranks. And I REALY dislike seeing rank 15 in front of my name each random battle. This is tooo much for me, or as they say: A BRIDGE TO FAR. So, goodbye & lets say after 12 months I will take another look at this game to see whats changed. bye

well  you still own your previous ranks but that one which is visible is for last r.season. I`m not sure but if u dont play a season u will have ur old rank in front of ur nick but it may become and 23 after the end of the season

[Gnirf]

On 2018-05-02 at 8:49 PM, loppantorkel said:

Question is - do you invest time now when you've got those that climb the fastest, aka unicums, in the matches, or do you wait to the end of the season when only the leftovers are slogging it out? Both teams will consist of equally skilled players at an average.

My investment is spread out , but as i assume that the average level of players will decrease I play more in the later stages, if you are at constant level you will carry more. But as I have a different job situation I will play a little more in the beginning by necessity. 

 

Last season I then played to R11 in Alabama, (and a few in Chappa), I more or less felt like a unicum, broadsiding enemies etc, way better average than in random, high caliber several times etc. But naturally if youhad the goal R1 you must play early and as I saw that you were on R5/6 i think when we played in the same random yesterday you must start early. If you are satisfied with around R10 for flags etc you better wait for the push. If you are a unicum player I think it matters less. For me -a 55 % player it is better to wait, as to reach R10 you can play any ship more or less if you are skilled enough further below it is more important to be more specific.

[loppantorkel]

8 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

My investment is spread out , but as i assume that the average level of players will decrease I play more in the later stages, if you are at constant level you will carry more. But as I have a different job situation I will play a little more in the beginning by necessity. 

 

Last season I then played to R11 in Alabama, (and a few in Chappa), I more or less felt like a unicum, broadsiding enemies etc, way better average than in random, high caliber several times etc. But naturally if youhad the goal R1 you must play early and as I saw that you were on R5/6 i think when we played in the same random yesterday you must start early. If you are satisfied with around R10 for flags etc you better wait for the push. If you are a unicum player I think it matters less. For me -a 55 % player it is better to wait, as to reach R10 you can play any ship more or less if you are skilled enough further below it is more important to be more specific.

I think you're right. I've got no set out goal for this season and I've been playing a few games ranked at the time so far, I'll continue this as long as it doesn't get frustrating.

[Wildf1re]

On 30/4/2018 at 12:15 PM, Up_The_Donald said:

My first post on here so please have some patience if I repeat what others have said or express things in a clumsy way but........

 

I got to Rank 10 with no problems.  Had "Good" ratings on BB and CA.  But when at Rank 10 and into the T10 boats everything changed.  I've been stuck at Rank 10 for 2 days straight with the most I've achieved being 2 stars at that level.  My win rate went from over 50% to 25-35% over the period.  

 

That is the part I just can't get my head around.  Leaving aside my own poor play, bad luck, bad teams etc etc I just don't understand how my win rate has taken such a battering at this level.  I'm not the best player in the world but also by no means the worst.

 

I've tried playing aggressive and going for caps as a team player.  I've tried playing passive and slinging HE from the back.  Tried everything but still the same outcome.  

Is anyone else experiencing the same and does anyone have any help for how I could break out of this cycle?

Thanks in advance.

UTD.  

Well, I have just started in the T10 bracket and are experiencing somewhat the same. Aside from the fact that U can always play better yourself, I find that the salt is running extremely high in rank 10 with TX. T8 games I found fun, by omg at TX... It's toxic and people declare the game lost after 1 min if just one players goes even a little off course. Not to mention, playing as a DD I am amazed by how many armchair generals wants the DDs to cap and contest when it's obviously suicide to do so - and waiting just a little (and getting some support) would turn it around from a sure sunk DD to a possibility to get the upper hand. The atmosphere is just... toxic...

 

I can definitely do better myself and are picking up on the workable tactics - and have not given up yet - but I do find many teams that (judging from the chat) give up 30 sec into the game, declaring the team the reason. Not really conductive to a motivated play. I think it sad that so many players are so focused on the other players and seem more intent on spewing demotivating criticism at them, than trying to motivate and just focusing on their own play...