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  1. Hello everyone! I have posted my suggestions in other topics before, but I think these options should be considered in a separately topic as well. Here are suggestions that Yugoslav destroyers could consider to add to the European technology tree. Royal Yugoslav Navy Dubrovnik Characteristics: Type: Flotilla leader Displacement: 2884 tons (Full) Length: 113,2 m Beam: 10,67 m Draft: 3,58 - 4,1 m Propulsion: 48.000 hp Speed: 40,3 knots Armament: 4x1 Škoda 140mm guns 1x2 Škoda 83,5mm AA guns 2x2 + 2x1 Škoda 40mm AA guns 2x1 Zbrojovka 15mm AA machine guns 2x3 533mm Torpedo Tubes (Mk IX torpedo type) *Ideal Tier 7 destroyer for research. Beograd Characteristics: Class & Type: Beograd-class destroyer Displacement: 1655 tons (Full) Length: 98 m Beam: 9,45 m Draft: 2,7 - 3,2 m Propulsion: 44.000 hp Speed: 39,2 knots Armament: 4x1 Škoda 120mm guns 2x2 Bofors 40mm AA guns 2x1 12 mm AA machine guns 2x3 550mm Torpedo Tubes *Ideal Tier 6 destroyer for research. Split Characteristics: Type: Flotilla leader Displacement: 3048 tons (Full) Length: 120 m Beam: 11,3 m Draft: 3,7 m Propulsion: 55.000 hp Speed: 38 knots Armament: 5x1 Škoda 140mm guns 5x2 Bofors 40mm AA guns 4x1 Zbrojovka 15 mm AA macgine guns 2x3 or 3x2 or 2x2+1x3 533mm Torpedo Tubes *Ideal Tier 8 destroyer for research. Yugoslav Navy R11 Split Characteristics: Type: Large destroyer Displacement: 3048 tons (Full) Length: 120 m Beam: 11,3 m Draft: 3,7 m Propulsion: 50.000 hp Speed: 31,5 knots Armament: 4x1 127mm guns 1x4 + 2x2 + 2x1 Bofors 40mm AA guns 1x5 533mm Torpedo Tubes *Maybe premium Tier 6 or Tier 7 destroyer.
  2. Henning_15

    Yugoslav WW2 Destroyer Beograd

    Beograd was the lead ship of her class of destroyers built for the Royal Yugoslav Navy (Serbo-Croatian: Kraljevska Jugoslovenska Ratna Mornarica, KJRM) during the late 1930s. When Yugoslavia entered World War II due to the German-led Axis invasion of that country in April 1941, she was damaged by a near miss during an air attack, and was then captured by the Italians. After refitting, she saw extensive service with the Royal Italian Navy from August 1941 to September 1943, completing over 100 convoy escort missions in the Mediterranean under the name Sebenico, mainly as a convoy escort on routes between Italy and the Aegean and North Africa. Following the Italian armistice in September 1943, she was captured by the German Navy and redesignated TA43. Re-armed, she served with the 9th Torpedo Boat Flotilla on escort and minelaying duties in the northern Adriatic. She was sunk or scuttled at Trieste on 30 April or 1 May 1945. She was raised in June 1946, probably to remove her as a navigation hazard, only to be scuttled again in either July 1946 or in 1947. The Beograd class was developed from a French design, and the name ship of the class, Beograd, was built by Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire at Nantes, France. The ship had an overall length of 98 m (321 ft 6 in), a beam of 9.45 m (31 ft), and a normal draught of 3.18 m (10 ft 5 in). Her standard displacement was 1,210 tonnes (1,190 long tons), increasing to 1,655 tonnes (1,629 long tons) at full load. The crew consisted of 145 officers and enlisted men. The ship was powered by Curtis steam turbines driving two propellers, using steam generated by three Yarrow water-tube boilers. Her turbines were rated between 40,000–44,000 shaft horsepower (30,000–33,000 kW) and she was designed to reach a top speed of 38–39 knots (70–72 km/h; 44–45 mph), although she was only able to reach a practical top speed of 35 knots (65 km/h; 40 mph) in service. She carried 120 tonnes (120 long tons) of fuel oil, which gave her an action radius of 1,000 nautical miles (1,900 km; 1,200 mi). Her main armament consisted of four Škoda 120 mm (4.7 in) L/46 superfiring guns in single mounts, two forward of the superstructure and two aft, protected by gun shields. Her secondary armament consisted of four Bofors 40 mm (1.6 in) anti-aircraft guns in two twin mounts,[2][5][6] located on either side of the aft shelter deck. She was also equipped with two triple mounts of 550 mm (22 in) torpedo tubes and two machine guns. Her fire-control system was provided by the Dutch firm of Hazemayer. As built, she could also carry 30 naval mines. She was laid down in 1936, launched on 23 December 1937, and was commissioned into the Royal Yugoslav Navy (Serbo-Croatian: Kraljevska Jugoslovenska Ratna Mornarica, KJRM) on 28 April 1939. Tier VI Premium Destroyer Beograd __________________________________________ SURVIVABILITY Hitpoints: 12800 __________________________________________ ARTILLERY 4 × single 120 mm (4.7 in) guns Reload TIme: 8.1 s 180 Turn Time: 26.1 Maximum Dispersion: 102 m Maximum HE Shell Damage: 2050 Chance Of HE Shells Causing A Fire On Target: 9.0 % HE Shell Armor Penetration Capacity: 19 mm Maximum AP Shell Damage: 2200 Main Battery Firing Range: 11.0 km ___________________________________________ TORPEDOES 2 × triple 550 mm (22 in) torpedo tubes Torpedo Range: 9.5 km Torpedo Speed: 58 knots Maximum Damage: 15170 Reload Time: 82.0 s ___________________________________________ AA DEFENCE 2 × twin 40 mm (1.6 in) AA guns 2 × single machine guns AA Reinforcement: 50 % Sector Reinforcement time: 5 s Sector Reinforcement shift time: 5 s ____________________________________________ MANEUVERABILITY Maximum Speed: 38.0 knots Turning Circle Radius: 640 m Rudder Shift Time: 2.0 s ____________________________________________ CONCEALMENT Detectability Range By Sea: Detectability Range By Air: Assured Detectability Range: Detectability After Firing Main Guns in Smoke: ____________________________________________ ARMOR LAYOUT Deck: 16 mm Armor Belt: 17 mm Superstructure: 12 mm _____________________________________________ AMMUNITION & CONSUMABLES Damage Control Party Action Time 5s Reload Time For I 85.5 s Reload Time For II 57 s Smoke Action Time 20 s Smoke Screen Dispersion Time 81 s Action Radius 0.54 km Relaod Time For I 240 s Relaod Time For II 160 s Engine Boost Maximum Speed +8 % Action Time 120 s Reload Time For I 180 s Reload Time For II 120 s __________________________________________
  3. Finally! My latest fork on this scheme. Proposal for full European tech tree! There were many unique destroyers in Europe. It would be nice to see them in large numbers in the game. Having only 4 nations, mostly with Swedish destroyers in the game, is not the solution. Also, it is not a solution to put 10 British and 10 American destroyers that those nations used. Only the British and American branches would be copied as was done with the Pan-Asian Tech Tree. We would have too many Jervis, Lightning, Fletcher and Gearing destroyers (The exceptions are the Greek destroyers T9 and T10, as well as the Polish premium destroyer T8). That is not the solution. The goal is to bring many different ships into the game, and European nations had unique destroyers, such as the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, the Netherlands and Poland (and Sweden, which has already been inserted). I had a lot of destroyers, a lot especially for tiers 4-6, but this is compromise solution. I compared Burza with Bourrasque, so it's in that place. But, in my opinion, the proposal is really good.
  4. Hi there ! I like ships. I make techtrees of them, historical articles, drawings, and even songs. This time though, I wanted to try something different and make my own premium ship. Therefore, I selected a destroyer today, Split (but you already knew that provided you read the title before clicking, otherwise you clicked on a random topic which is kinda weird, but I won't discuss that matter here because this bracket is strating to get way too wide), and I tryied giving her stats and a gameplay which would make her interesting to buy and to play. I'll be exposing the stats I chose and I'll be awaiting your opinions regarding her, if she'd be OP or too weak, if she'd be interesting to buy, and so on. Anyway, let's start ! Direction : Yugoslavia ! Premium Tier VIII DD Split (Yugoslavia/Pan-Europe) I/ A (very) brief histrocial explanation You probably haven't read my Forgotten Legends article where I talk about her (mainly because they're only available in French for now) but Split isn't the most unknwon DD of Europe and I've seen her mentionned a few time around here, namely in the European Destroyer Tree topic. I'll stay brief here because this isn't an historical article. Split was a Destroyer Leader, alone in her class, from Yugoslavia. The goal was to increase their destroyer force because the others were weaker and older ; therefore, instead of choosing to build several weak destroyers, they opted for a single Destroyer Leader. The comapgny choosen to draw her design was a French one, and based the hull on the French Le Fantasque class ; however, the Yugoslavs had the ship built by Yarrow on their soil, with components from a wide variety of nations (the guns were from Czechoslovakia, the Turbines and the Boilers were British, she was equipped with Sweden Bofors and had a French fire-control system. The thing is, the ship was only 50% completed when the war broke out, and soon enough, Italians had invaded Yugoslavia and seized the ship. The italians decided that they may complete Split (renamed Spalato) with their own equipment, and thus they redisigned her. Although work started, it wasn't finished yet in 1943 when Italy surrendered. Therefore, the still incomplete Spalato was seized by the Germans. The Germans, however, never even tryied to finish her and when they ended up retreated, they scuttled her. In 1950, Yugoslavia was free again and lacked warships. They remembered of the old Split and decided to raise and finish her. After a few contracts were made, they did get the unfinished ship back from the ocean, the United Kingdom provided the engine and boilers, and the USA provided the armament, fire control firectors and so on. Split was finally completed and she remained in service for Yugoslavia until 1980. II/ Why would you buy Split ? Sure, her story is interesting and kinda funny, but unlike Hood, Enterprise, Tirpitz and so on, she doesn't have the excuse of being very well known. So you may wonder, have I overlooked a detail about her that would justify a unique and special gameplay ? More or less. Split's specialty doesn't show in battle, but in the port. I like to call it "Buy one, get two free". Split would have three different configurations : her original Yugoslavian one, which would be torpedo-oriented, the Italian one, which would be a gunboat, and the final American one, a defensive/support one. At any time in the port, you could switch her configuration from one type to another. If you get bored from torpedo actions with Split, switch to Split gunboat and start firing hell on DDs and Cap Points. Offsense gets tiring ? Switch to Defense Split and support your allies, shot down aircrafts lay smokescreens ! Having three gameplay in one premium is a real deal ; besides, she'd be great for doing missions since she can be specialized in several fields, allowing her to be a good choice regardless of the type of mission to accomplish. III/Stats and short Gameplay-type Comments Disclaimer : the stats are meant to be adapted to the game. Therefore, some values may as non-historical, including but not limited to : speed and torpedo speed, firing range, reload times a\ Torpedo-mode Split - Yugoslavian variant Survivability HitPoint 16200 Armor Max 16mm Artillery Main Battery 5*1 (centerline) 14cm/56 Skoda Reload Time 7.2s 180° turn 25s Dispertion 91m HE 140mm HE Max HE damage 2100 Fire Chance 10,00% AP 140mm AP Max AP damage 3500 Firing Range 10.6km Initial AP shell Velocity 880m/s Initial HE shell Velocity 880m/s Torpedo Tubes 2*3 (centerline) 533mm Reload 70s 180° turn 7.2s Torpedo 533mm Maxdamage 16500 Range 9.5km Detectability 1.4km Speed 59kn Anti Air Defense 5* 1 Bofors 40mm DpS 35 Range 3.5km 4*1 ZB vz60 15mm MG DpS 16 Range 1.2km Manoeuverability Max Speed 37kn Turning Circle Radius 540m Rudder Shift Time 4.5s Concealment Sea Base 6.8km When on Fire 9.1km Air Base 3.2km When on Fire 6.2km Consumables Sonar (slot 1) Duration 90s / TorpSpot 2.52km / Ship Spot 3.48km Reloading 180s / Charges : 2 (Lo Yang-like) Smoke (slot 2) Laying 20s / Staying 89s Reloading 228s / Charges : 2 (Generic) Engine Boost (slot 3) Active 120s Reloading 171s / Charges : 2 (Generic) In Yugoslavian torpedo mode, Split possesses heavy 140mm guns, however, their RoF is very low making them impractical in close-range combat, especially against destroyers. Her torpedoes, however, are very powerful for tier VIII : although she only has 6, they have good reload, damage and travel rather far. This version also has the advantage of carrying a sonar (identical to Lo Yang's in termes of stats), increasing her defensive options against DDs. b\ Gunboat-mode Split - Italian variant Survivability HitPoint 16200 Armor Max 16mm Artillery Main Battery 5*1 (centerline) Cannone da 135/45 OTO 1937 Reload Time 5.4s 180° turn 18s Dispertion 96m HE 135mm HE Max HE damage 2000 Fire Chance 8,00% AP 135mm AP Max AP damage 3200 Firing Range 12.3km Initial AP shell Velocity 825m/s Initial HE shell Velocity 825m/s Torpedo Tubes 1*3 (centerline) Si 270/533.4 x 7.2 M Reload 70s 180° turn 7.2s Torpedo 533mm Maxdamage 17600 Range 6.5km Detectability 1.4km Speed 70kn Anti Air Defense 5*1 37mm/54 DpS 27 Range 4.2km 4*2 20mm/65 MG DpS 30 Range 2km Manoeuverability Max Speed 39kn Turning Circle Radius 540m Rudder Shift Time 4.5s Concealment Sea Base 6.8km When on Fire 9.1km Air Base 3.2km When on Fire 6.2km Consummables Smoke (slot 1) Laying 20s / Staying 89s Reloading 228s / Charges : 2 (Generic) Engine Boost (slot 2) Active 120s (Generic) Reloading 171s / Charges : 2 (Generic) In Italian gunboat mode, Split possesses large caliber (135mm) fast firing canons. Along with a way higher rate of fire, they also turn faster, making of her a great DD-chasing ship. Besides, in this mode, Split can reach 39kn. However, everything has a price : she does not have a sonar here, and only has 1*3 torpedo tube. Besides, the torpedoes travel at a shorter range, making them only defensive. c\ Defensive-mode Split - American variant Survivability HitPoint 16200 Armor Max 16mm Artillery Main Battery 4*1 (centerline) 127/38 Mk30 Reload Time 3.0s 180° turn 5.3s Dispertion 98mm HE 127mm HE Mk32 Max HE damage 1800 Fire Chance 5,00% AP 127mm AP Mk38 Max AP damage 2100 Firing Range 11.1km Initial AP shell Velocity 792m/s Initial HE shell Velocity 792m/s Torpedo Tubes 1*5 (centerline) 533mm Reload 139s 180° turn 7.2s Torpedo Mk17 Maxdamage 17900 Range 12km Detectability 1.4km Speed 66kn Anti Air Defense 4*2 40/60 Bofors + 4*1 40/60 Bofors DpS 60 Range 3.5km 4*1 127/38 MK30 DpS 30 Range 5km Manoeuverability Max Speed 33.5kn Turning Circle Radius 540m Rudder Shift Time 4.5s Concealment Sea Base 6.8km When on Fire 9.1km Air Base 3.2km When on Fire 6.2km Consummables Smoke (slot 1) Laying 28s / Staying 124s Reloading 228s / Charges : 2 (Benson-like) Engine Boost (slot 2) Active 120s (Generic) Reloading 171s / Charges : 1 (Generic) Anti-Air (slot 3) Active : 30s Reloading 171s / Charges : 1 (Benson-like) In American Defenser mode, Split only has 4*1 127mm canons. However, they're as powerful as high-tier US DDs ones, turning and shooting very fast. She's also equipped with a single quintuple tube firing powerful but slow US torpedoes at a great range, but taking ages to reload. Her speed falls at barely 33.5kn too, making a good use of the Engine Boost mandatory. Her main strong point lies in consommables and anti-air : her AA capabilities are excellent for a tier VIII DD, and she has an American long-asting smoke along with both the engine boost and an AA consummable. However, these last two only come with 1 charge, making abilities like superintendant and premium consummables import in order not to run out too early. So, how do you find Split ? OP or bad ? Boring or interesting ? Would you think about buying her or would you ignore her ? I'll await you opinions~
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