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  1. Introduction Hello! I decided to make this guide because I see a lot of Battleships doing things I would not recommend doing, and since I see myself as a fairly good Battleship driver I wanted to share my "knowledge" about this ship class. I'm not, by all means, saying that I know everything and that my guide is the only one you should follow, for there are many playstyles suited for a BB, I'm just here to share you my savoir faire. If my English is bad at any point in this guide I blame it on the fact that English isn't my native language, I will try to limit the mistakes but I can't promise anything. While low tier (tier 3-5) gameplay in Battleships is also an important topic I will adress the higher tiers (tier 8-10), since low tier games can be quite chaotic and low to mid tier BBs play quite differently I will MAYBE cover this in a later guide. This guide will mostly talk about positioning and will end with a small piece about priority targets Team dependent positioning Positioning in battleships is one of the most valuable skills you can learn, a BB is generally too slow to get out of bad positions quickly which will more often then not leave you on low health or in the worst case with a lifeboat with your unfortunate crew. Whenever you see a Battleship typing A B or B C in chat, this isn't just some small chitchat at the start of the game but a quite decisive factor to their game. Have you ever seen BBs raging that "We said B C and you went A" in chat? If you did, you might have seen one of the biggest fears happen a BB player can have, their team not taking in consideration the pain BBs are in when they need to forcibly reposition. Granted the BB player should've still looked at what his team is doing which brings us to the first point in the subject of positioniong: "Your team" Battleships are extremely team dependent, which means a BB player should look at his/her team the entire time. A BB player should always try to keep friendly destroyers near so he/she can support them in the dangerous endeavour of capping points and generally warding off the enemy team. Having DDs close to you also gives the advantage that they will spot Torpedoes that are outside of your own spotting range. Of course this benefit is mutual since you can ward your DDs from those pesky radar cruisers who will try to hunt down your little friends. Cruiser cover is also quite important for Battleships, their defensive AA is extremely valuable for dealing with aircraft and hydro or radar is very valuable to deal with enemy destroyers. It is quite tricky to work well with Cruisers tho, BBs tend to attract a lot of fire and if a cruiser pops up right next to them, the fire will almost all the time switch to them and if your escort was a bit to close to you, during evasive manoeuvres it might not end well for the both of you. BBs and cruisers should keep their distance but not to much so when the situation changes, f.e. a butload of planes coming towards the BB, the cruiser can close the distance and support the BB. For playing with CVs I would say that that's more up to the CV, who should at all time try to keep the team between himself and the enemy. Positioning on the map As for actually placing your ship on the map, always try to position yourself so you can cover at least 2 caps (for domination) for standard battles its a bit harder for BBs to decide where to go, just try to support your DDs as well as possible is generally the best decision to make. If you are playing a Destroyer, keep in mind that your BBs are not as fast as you, also try not to split up to A and C because this will result in your BBs having to either split their firepower or not support you at all. What I generally like to do is put myself in between 2 different caps or at a cap which will definetely see a lot of action (very often a B point) I will always try to place my battleship next to cover so only one side of my ship is exposed to fire, it is not adviced to go in the open and open up all routs off attack to your ship, be aware for rushing destroyers tho since they tend to see you as a nice meal when you get to close. It's quite self-evident that you don't snipe since a part of your role as BB is deterent and tanking damage, from long range this is very hard. There is no shame in driving backwards, if you keep your position while 2 Tirpitzes and a Gneisenau are charging you, you will only end up dead, while you can at least kite the for a while whilst driving backwards, letting your team have more time to shoot at them too. KNOW YOUR TIME: I've sinned against this a couple of times since I tend to play quite agressively but knowing when to advance is very important, I tend to go uber agressive when all enemy DDs have been sunk but that can get you in sticky situations nonetheless. Try to follow your team, especially destroyers, unless they are clearly making a mistake (when the entire enemy team is in that location and your dds just want to throw their life away f.e.) When enemy cruisers start kiting you, try to disengage, cruisers are very good at kiting Battleships and you only do them a favour trying to catch up to them. If they start following you it will be easier to hit them with your main battery since they have less time to avoid your shells. When your team is decisively winning you can go on the pursuit (and maybe tank some more damage for more experience =D ) KNOW YOUR SHIP: Some BBs are more fit to go agressive than others, Tirpitz for example has turtleback armour* and torpedoes + a very decent suit of secondaries so it is great for going agressive unlike ships like Izumo that turn like a brick and have a very big and easy to penetrate citadel. * : Turtleback armour is a citadel shape that is in the game which severely limits the possibilities of getting citadelled. Most German BBs have this citadel shape en most high tier German cruisers do too. Some specific tips An incredibly important tip for North: There is almost no situation that calls for BBs to go to the D point, you can't support anything except for D and it will take you ages to get around those mountains, I generally report every single BB that does that because this will handicap your team immensely. FOR YAMATOS: try to avoind getting in a brawling situation, your second gun turret can't aim down enough to hit anything under 5km when you are bow on. To add to this Yamato has severely fallen behind in the BB meta, for a general rule, when you can shoot your nr.3 turret you are over angeling your armour, showing a very easy citadel (citadel just in front and below turret 1) FOR KURFURST: It doesn't matter that you can't get citadelled so easily that you should forget how to angle. You will still eat tons of damage when you give your broadside to the enemy! Try to resist the urge of shooting all your turrets, your turrets are not in a good position and you will have to give a lot of broadside to use all of them. Try to forsake secondary build, I know it's fun to dakadaka but a survivability/stealth build suits the ship a lot better. FOR MONTANA: In my opinion the best BB at tier X and generally a joy to play. Your guns have great angles so you dont need to show a lot of side to use all of them, just keep in mind that when turning or giving full broadside, your hard to hit citadel becomes not hard to hit at all. Personally I like an AA/Stealth build but it performs just as fine (perhaps even better) with a survivability/Stealth build. I don't know how Republique plays so I can't comment on that, and I won't review conqueror because IMO that ship is not a BB. Consumable use Personally I like using spotter planes on my tier 8+ BBs because it helps with shooting over islands and is a huge aid for firing into smokescreens. You can very easily identify the position of a Minotaur from the semi-birdseyeview. Take premium consumables, not using premium consumables is one of the significant symptoms of noobism, a very grave dissease. A premium consumable can save your ship in multiple occasions thanks to the shorter "Cooldown" times they have. (and numbered consumables get +1 charge if you take the premium version, meaning extra medkits, yay!) Don't forget that you CAN buy these for in-game credits, they are relatively cheap and are very easily earned back. On top of this, don't forget to use your consumables, immediately symptom 2 of noobism, a medkit not used at the end of the game is basically wasted, and you definitely want to avoid sinking before you've used every single last one of them. Try to remember to pop your plane just before you die (if you can) the extra spotting it provides can save a teammate!. Consumables cost money if you use them or not, not using them would be idiotic. One last tip for this point, whenever I pop my repair party I wait untill I'm sure I can repair for the full duration, so you get the most ammount of HP out of each repair party, when you are on low HP I would advise not to wait that much, at high tiers even HE salvos can do a ridiculous amount of damage. Priority Targets To finish of this guide I will try to talk a bit about priority targets. -Whenever you get the opportunity to, shoot destroyers, this class is the hard counter of Battleships and it will help your team's chances of winning the game since DDs often decide who wins or loses a game. -Radar cruisers should also be a top priority, they pose a significant threat to your destroyer buddies. If you don't know by heart what cruisers come equiped with radar, learn the list, it's not that big and it will help your team a lot: Atlanta, Belfast, Indianapolis, Chapayev, New Orleans, Dimitry Donskoi, Baltimore, Moskva, Des Moines, MISSOURI, BLACK, HSIENYANG, CHUNG MU, YUEYANG, Edinburgh, Neptune, Minotaur. (these 3 last ones are quite fun to shoot at with battleships *evil laughter*) -If you don't see any of these ships, go for broadsiding targets but dont hold your fire too long if they are hesitant on showing their sides, you might get a penetration through the deck armour! Outro I will propably edit this guide if some new thoughts come to mind! If you have feedback you can always leave it in the comments! Have a nice day! Kathy. Guides to specific ships - How to play Yamato - How to play Montana - How to play Großer Kurfürst Edit: Added some points in specific tips. and a new point called "Consumable use"
  2. Hello guys, just wanna give you some hints and tricks, which could help you, when you decided to play the CV rework. Trying to make just short descriptions. Note: I'm seeing this from an IJN view and this is not a complete guide. Table of content Autopilot with CV and AAA AP bombing with different impact angles Aiming with AP - dive bomber against light armored vessels (depends also on the AP bombs) Aiming with AP - dive bomber against heavy armored vessels My general advice for AP bombing Accelerating and slowing down Turning Keyboard and Mouse usage Using Fighters Autopilot with CV and AAA I recommend to chose a zig zag course with your carrier, which makes aiming harder for enemy aircraft attacks. Also switching the AA side is recommend. The Screenshot in the 'spoiler' shows, that the CV moves in zig zag to the east, while switching the AAA to the right side (to the south) Edit: I don't recommend that really anylonger, since the sector change, which "only" increases the continuous aa dps. Another tactic: Since fires and floods last very short, the threat of a burning flight deck is minimized. That encourages to go close with the team. A few km behind the last bb of the team could give some extra AA power. I wouldn't choose a sector with that tactic, because there is too much change, and the CV player is too inflexible for changing sectors. AP bombing with different impact angles The angle of the impact of the bombs depends on the angle of the plane. Take a look at the screenshot in the 'spoiler'. Steep angles of the plane leads to a better impact angle, thus thicker armor could be penetrated, while a shallow angle won't penetrate thick armor, but has the advantage not to over-penetrate thin armor. Aiming with AP - dive bomber against light armored vessels (depends also on the AP bombs) The first example is about a stationary Cruiser and where to start the dive. Look at the grey crosshair. The grey crosshair mostly shows, where the dive bomber will be in the dive stage, thus aiming in front of the cruiser would lead, that the stage after the dive would be directly above the cruiser. The next screenshot shows how it looks like, if you're above the crusier. The planes are not steep angled, since the dive is already over. Now showing an example for aiming at a moving cruiser, where to start the dive. In many cases you will have to accelerate, since cruisers are pretty fast. And another screenshot: this shows, that AP bombs penetrate dds (Kagero). Note: Not all AP bombs work against all light armor vessels, especially T10 AP bombers have a high penetration capability. Aiming with AP - dive bomber against heavy armored vessels Against heavy armored targets it's recommended to drop the bomb while the dive. I'm showing you a screenshot, when to start the dive against a stationary bb. The grey crosshair is directly above the BB. The next screenshot shows how it looks like, when to release the bomb. The planes are in a steep angle. Now an example how to aim at a moving BB. It just needs a little bit lead, look at the grey chrosshair, it is aimed at the tip/nose of the BB, since they're slow, and the BB will be at that point, when you start the dive. My general advice for AP bombing Generally I use the AP bombs only against larger cruisers and battle ships, because the ap bomb mechanic and penetration capability is pretty hard to figure out. The Shokaku can dive bomb dds, while the Hakuryu can't. Also I had the experience, that I divebombed a Buffalo multiple times and got only overpens, but in the training room, shallow or steep bombing - both lead to citadells. So it's still somehow confusing. Accelerating and slowing down When the planes are at max speed or slowed down, it will affect the dive. If a target is close, and the squad is accelerated, the squad will often shoot over the target, so it's more recommended to approach a target with normal spead, or slow down. With more experience speeding up can be a pretty good tactic. Turning The turning circle is smaller, when slowling down. This is pretty good for Divebomber and sometimes for Torpedobomber. Attackplanes often need some more range and a longer approach. So in case of the attack planes after an attack run - instead of a small turn - I accelerate to get farer away. Dive bomber = Slow down and turn Torpedo bomber = Depends more on situation Attackplanes = Accelerate and turn then Keyboard and Mouse usage Keyboard is mostly for maneuvering (avoiding aa), turning and coarse movements. While you should use the mouse for aiming. The mouse control reacts only in a cone of ~45°, outside of this cone area, turning with mouse is disabled. Beside that, the right mouse is for looking around, but it behaves in the same way like it would be with guns, thus the airplanes will move to the spot, where you aimed, before you hold down the right button. Using Fighters Generally don't use fighter directly on enemy strike planes, they take too long for the engage. Use them like a smoke to cover a helpess mate (especially dds in caps). You can also fly a head and place the Fighter in front of a DD. Just predict, where the dd or ship want to go and place it there, so it will have a bit cover to take the objective. Beside that, Wargaming anounced that one fighter kills one enemy planes. Most fighter consumables are more or less same, but the Enterprise has for example 6 fighters, and larger patrol area, while most CVs at T8 have only 3 fighter planes.
  3. _NLForces_

    Advanced CV guide

    LINK TO .PDF FILE I decided to write this guide to becoming a better carrier player. A guide I would have wanted when I started playing CV’s. This guide will not be for those who have never played CV’s. I will not be explaining the controls, and I will only slightly touch on the consumables. This is for the more serious players, who want to become good CV players. I hope it will be of help to you. Have fun! 1: Introduction To clarify; in order to become a better player, this guide can help, but it can’t do it for you. Practise makes perfect, any experience is good experience. But most importantly: Have fun. It is almost impossible to keep something up if you’re not enjoying it. Question yourself: is this ship type for me? Or even: is this game for me? If yes, you’ve come to the right place. Let’s get you started. 1.2 Basic rules To start off, let’s look at a couple basic rules that are vital in carrier gameplay: 1: Time to target is everything Travel time is killer. In order to have the maximum impact on a game, you need to make as many attacks per minute as possible. Push for a minimum of 1 attack per minute. Once you’ve got that down, try for 1.5 attacks per minute. Keep a notepad beside you with a pen. Make a tick every time you launch ordnance at an enemy (regardless if it hits or not—but it has to be one that you tried to hit). Then check the game duration at the end. Most people greatly over-estimate your average attacks per minute. Make sure to ride your boost continuously to fly as quick as possible. But don’t hold down W all the time, feather your boost button. Boost, let it recover for a second, boost again. You need to have it available if there’s fighters or AA that you need to avoid. Most importantly, ploink your carrier as close to the enemy ships as you dare. The shorter the time between attacks, the more attacks you will do. It doesn’t help dying fast though. Make sure you have an exit strategy, and turn tail before its too late. Also, never-ever trust autopilot. It will mess up the most basic maneuvers. Make sure to ‘babysit’ it by adding multiple waypoints (hold shift and click to add more) or better yet, do complicated maneuvers yourself inbetween attacks. So, don’t run to the backline instantly. Don’t hang around forever, waiting for the perfect attack run. Good enough is good enough. Attack, attack, attack. That’s the key to carrier gameplay! 2: There is always something else Now, what do you do when there are only uninviting targets? Iowa’s, Worcesters, Des Moines and ships escorted by AA cruisers. Answer: You ignore ‘em, look for something else. There’s always something else, you just don’t see it yet. I will explain target selection in more detail later in this guide. 3: Supporting teammates Unless there is some chad player on your side that you KNOW will shoot at what you spot, don’t waste time spotting targets for your team. Think of how many times you’ve stuck your neck out in a DD, spotted enemies that need killing but your team keeps lobbing shells at the battleship at the back. If you’re fortunate, your attack runs will coincide with spotting ships. 2: Materiel Now for materiel, the acutal ship you’re sailing and aircraft you are flying. First, let’s take a look at what each tier of Aircraft carriers offers. TIER IV: This is where everyone starts with their aircraft carriers. The anti-aircraft at this tier is minimal, and so is your damage potential. However, with 0.8.5 the tier IV carriers are hopelessly OP. Club seals at your own discretion. TIER VI: Tier VI is like its predecessor, a learning tier. This is like getting your first bike, but with sidewheels. You start learning the real deal, but you’ve got a long way to go yet. TIER VIII: Early effectiveness. This is a path to your tier X, and I will not focus on them in detail (except for premiums). This is where your sidewheels are removed, and you are finally able to spread your wings (no pun intended) and explore the limits of the CV class. But remember, you’re still on a children’s bike. TIER X: The pinnacle of carrier design and gameplay. Brutal AA and smart opponents make this a very tough playground. It is however, the best way to master a carrier line. If you are thinking of getting a new carrier, here is a short overview of each line: United States Navy Imperial Japanese Navy Royal Navy Difficulty: ★★ Difficulty: ★★★ Difficulty: ★★ + High potential ++ Extremely high potential +/- Decent potential +/- Decent plane health - Low plane health + high plane health - low plane speed + High plane speed +/- Decent plane speed +/- Decent plane reserves +/- Decent plane reserves - Low plane reserves And an overview the premiums. First the good ones: Enterprise Kaga Difficulty: ★ Difficulty: ★ + High potential + High potential +/- Decent plane health - Low plane health - low plane speed +/- Decent plane speed + Large plane reserves ++ Extremely large plane reserves (Comes from the quick replenishment time) Saipan Graf Zeppelin Difficulty: ★★★ Difficulty: ★★★ +/- Decent potential +/- Decent potential + high plane health - Low plane health + High plane speed + High plane speed -- Extremely low plane reserves - Low plane reserves 3: Gameplay Now for the raw gameplay. This is mainly about skill, judgement and experience. If you thought good CV gameplay is easy, think again. How I approach a match: 1. Check your matchmaking, check for strong AA ships and identify your targets. 2. First, launch rockets for scouting. 3. Set autopilot half a square ahead of your ship. 4. Fly in, make sure to bail immediately when you spot strong AA ships 5. Target Destroyers if they have AA turned on. When turned off, go for a cruiser or battleship. 6. Decide what target to go for. When unclear, go for another scouting run. Make sure to target DD’s as much as possible early on, to give your DD’s the upper hand. 7. Scan the map for inviting targets. See the next section for Target Selection. Rince and repeat. 3.1: Target selection This is probably the most important skill of a CV player. Being able to select the target that you are most effective at killing, and making sure to keep ‘winning players’ in check. If one enemy ship is holding back an entire flank, it might be a good idea to give him some pressure. Equally, when a flank is about to fall, give fighter cover to your allies and wear down the enemies. This of course depends on the distance to target. The closer, the better. Always make sure you use your carrier as effectively as possible. Don’t listen to your teammates here, YOU know how to use your carrier best, not your teammate. Things to consider when selecting your target: 1: Type of target 1. Does it have strong AA? 2. Is it big or slow enough to ensure a hit? 3. How much health does it have (left)? 4. Is it susceptible to weapons I have? 2: position of target 1. How far away is my target? 2. Is it close to strong AA ships/under fighter cover? 3. How much influence has the target on the game? (prioritize enemies that are doing well) 4. Is it moving, or unable or unwilling to move? 5. How close is my target to other points of interest? (unspotted DD’s or other juicy targets) All this is different in every situation, so you will have to judge and learn yourself. 3.2 Map awareness Another major part of carrier gameplay is carrier placement. Getting yourself in the best possible position every time, without exposing yourself to unessecary danger. This is not a simple feat. It is heavily dependent on the map where you slam your carrier down. Make sure you anticipate falling flanks, by moving up or retreating. At tier X, you can even reliably bowtank enemy fire. Make use of this! Distract the enemy team by letting them shoot your heavily angled flight deck. Getting down to 50% health and having a million tanked damage is as useful as doing 50k yourself. As a final note, DO NOT TRUST AUTOPILOT! it is on the enemy team, and will try to kill you. Do complicated maneuvers yourself, and give autopilot very specific instructions on where to move if you’re in open water. 3.3 General tips This is the big thing. How do you get the absolute most out of your CV? Here I wil list some tricks I’ve picked up over my time as a CV main. If you don’t recognize one of these points, I recommend looking in to and potentially learning them. 1: Pre-drop Standard, every carrier gets between 3-4 attacks per full plane squadron (differs per carrier). However, you will usually only get one attack off. Maybe two if you are lucky. This means you will bring -and thus lose- twice as many aircraft as you need. To get around this, many players waste 1-2 attacks on the water, to send those back to the carrier and prevent them from getting shot down. This is called: ‘predropping’ I recommend predropping at least once. No matter the nation or tier (maybe except tier IV). 2: Flak dodging The basic practise of flying around the black flak clouds. They hurt alot, but are relatively easy to dodge, unless there are too many ships firing at your planes. Simple WASD-hacks and some good ‘ol intuition will get you through any AA umbrella. Once you engage your attack mode, you won’t have to worry about flak anymore, as its damage is reduced by 80%. If you are struggling with this, don’t worry. Flak dodging will become second nature with experience. 3: Supporting teammates This is a touchy subject. Many people see CV’s as the one to protect them or their DD’s from enemy air attacks. The truth is that fighter gameplay is very limited, and a simple consumable is no deterrent for many CV’s. Add to that the average intelligence of teammates in WoWs… This is why I never prioritize covering teammates with fighters. I will only help them if I don’t need to change my plans for it. There is no use flying over a DD for 2 minutes, spotting and popping fighters, just for them to rush out and die to torps. No… your planes are better used elsewhere. This is not to say you may never spot for your team, or never prioritze DD’s, but don’t go out of your way to do it. Just do whatever the hell you want, be it helping your teammates or doing damage. Never listen to your teammate, as selfish as that may sound. 4: Consumables One different use for your fighters is to spot enemies, or keep DD’s spotted. Just be careful that it won’t be shot down. Try to let the fighters survive the full 60s. You have two other consumables, are Engine boost and Torpedo heal. Engine boost is extremely useful. Try to save it for when you really need it. Torpedo heal is easy. Use when your planes reach low health or when you really need to tank some damage. ‘nuff said. Also try to save this for when you really need it. 5: AA baiting This tactic is surprisingly effective, its the practise of letting AA target the initial attack squadron. After a drop, if you INSTANTLY press F, all planes will head back up to the sky. The full squadron will be higher, because it started off higher (duh). Since AA targets the closest group of aircraft, they will target the attack element, not the squadron. This means you will (in theory) only lose the attacking element, and not the full squadron. Keep in mind, if the AA is too heavy, it will have ample time to shoot down both the attacking element and the squadron before it reaches its ‘safe altitude’. This trick works especially well with the Hakuryu torpedo bombers. Try this out for yourself, it might come in handy one day. 6: Slingshot Slingshot! A feared word in the ears of many cruiser captain. Slingshot! A argument brought up most often during CV discussions. But what is it really? I will kindly use Yuro’s video to explain this mechanic. Click here to go to his video All credit goes to Yuro As a USN CV main, I’m no expert at Slingshotting, but @Kytis is. This was his comment: “All slingshot does now is that you can get to ANY ship without taking DMG (Which is still retarded, don’t get me wrong) but the second you start the attack you will just lose your planes during and after the strike. Slingshot just means you can get close to the target and THEN lose your planes. 7: 'Cold' side of sector With the addition of the priority sector, you can take less damage from AA by simply flying on the other side of the sector reinforcement. This trick only works (well) with dive bombers. You do this trick by approaching at an angle to the enemies' bow. Once the AA opens up and you see the burst damage from priority sector, you change course and approach from the other side of his ship. You'll take notably less damage, make sure to put this to good use!
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