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chamorro posted a topic in Off-TopicWell, two months ago I started a little project in the Alt History Wikia; but after having some problems (goddamn infoboxes), and since this forum is full of history-lovers like me, I've decided to move it here. I'm sure I will get better feedback here and you never know, maybe some of you ended up enjoying my little project. First of all, I am not an historian nor an expert, and I, for sure, will make mistakes; nevertheless I will try to keep this ALT as plausible as possible and try to prevent ant ASB from appearing here. PLEASE, DO NOT MAKE THIS TOPIC A POLITICAL DISCUSSION, THAT IS NOT MY INTENTION; I JUST WANT TO CREATE A SEMI-PLAUSIBLE ALT AND SHARE IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE. SO PLEASE, KEEP THIS TOPIC CLEAN (PLEASE, TROLLS REFRAIN FROM POSTING) After that disclaimer, lets get to it! Hope you enjoy it, find it interesting, or at least do not think it as a total waste of your time! SUNRISE IN THE PACIFIC: 帝国の提督 (* Teikoku no Teitoku: "Admiral of the Empire") Point of Divergence: In August 25th 1916, Vice Admiral Arima Ryōkitsu of the Imperial Japanese Navy died in a car accident near the city center of Tokyo, Ryōkitsu had been one of the main defenders of the Kantai Kessen (Great Fleet) battle plan. This plan presented that the only way in which the IJN could achieve victory over its opponents (which would ultimately be the United States Navy) was to be a decisive clash between capital ships (mainly those envisioned in the Hachihachi Kantai; lit: Eight-Eight fleet), after the US fleet had been weakened during its course through the Pacific ocean by submarines, torpedo squadrons and more recently, aircraft. Ryōkitsu was being considered for taking the command of the 3rd Fleet but after his death Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy, Marshal Admiral Baron Ijūin Gorō promoted Prince Fushimi Hiroyasu to Commander of the 3rd fleet. In early 1919, Prince Fushimi met Osami Nagano, captain of the protected cruiser Hirado, and became really interested in Nagano's point of view regarding what would be the future of the newly developed ships which could carry aircraft; Nagano foresaw that one day the power of naval embarked aviation would eclipse the one currently held by battleships and battlecruisers. When sharing this point of view with other higher-ups of the IJN, Prince Fushimi found more opposition than compliance, but he found an ally in vice-admiral Keisuke Okada. This parity in opinion would be decisive towards the developement of the Imperial Japanese Navy after the Naval Treaty of Washington. Marshal Admiral Ijūin Gorō decided to resign to his title of commander-in chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy in June 1919 due to complications with his health; his succesor was Prince Higashifushimi Yorihito, mainly due to his belonging to the Imperial family; who was immediately promoted to Marshal Admiral. One of his concerns was the possible incoming naval arms race with the U.S. and he started scheming a way to prevent this, since some of his advisors had been delegates to the japanese embassy in Washington and had seen a share of the industrial power the U.S. were able to achieve. Prince Fushimi replaced him as commander of the 2nd Fleet and pressed on for a revision of the oficial battle plan and after some weeks of insistance, Prince Higashifumishi acceded. In September 1919 he called for a meeting of all the higher-ups of the IJN, with the objective of discussing the strategy of the IJN in the following decade (which was just an excuse to alter the Kantai Kessen strategy). Vice Admiral Satō Tetsutarō, main designer of the Kantai Kessen battle plan was relunctant to any changes made to his strategy, and hardly could contain his outrage when Prince Fushimi asked the newly promoted captain Nagano to come into the meeting room and share his suggestions regarding the strategy matter, but he gritted his teeth and silently listened to the proposal. The meeting ended with some agreement on both sides, Prince Fushimi presented Nagano's strategy plan as the Kōkū Kantai (lit: Air Fleet) strategy, as opposed to the Kantai Kessen battle plan. Prince Higashifushimi decided to give this new strategy an oportunity and ordered the laid down of the experimental ship class that would be the Hōshō class aircraft carrier with immediate efect. The first ship was planned to be laid down in late 1920 but it was moved forward and was given high priority over current projects, at the same time, the Tosa class battleship project was postponed while the Amagi class batlecruiser construction would remain on schedule. Following the meeting, a new naval construction plan was approved, called the 1919 6-6 Fleet. This plan would add two battlecruisers, two experimental aircraft carriers, four first rate or large cruisers ("Dai Gata Junyōkan"), and eight second rate or medium cruisers ("Chū Gata Junyōkan"); the funds to build the ships would be redirected from the postponed Tosa class battleships aswell as the two last units of the Amagi class, also postponed. Amagi and Akagi, the battlecruisers planned were to be laid down at the Kawasaki shipyard (Kobe) and at the Mitsubishi shipyard (Nagasaki) respectively, both in mid 1920. The new aircraft carrying ships, the Hōshō class, were to be laid down in Yokohama and Kure shipyards, the names chosen for these ships were Hōshō (Phoenix) for the lead ship, and Shōkaku (Soaring Crane) for the second ship; in the same fashion as the Amagi class battlecruisers, they were to be laid down in mid-1920. The large cruisers were to be the Furutaka class, composed of Furutaka, Nasu, Aoba and Kinugasa, all named after mountains following the naming conventions; they were to be laid down between 1923 and 1924. As for the medium cruisers, the three last ship of the already planned 6-ship Nagara class, (Suzuka, Minase and Otonashi), were to be laid down, together with the previous ships between 1922 and 1923. A new medium cruiser class was also planned, composed initially of four ships: Sendai (the lead ship), Jintsū, Naka and Kako. But not only the main surface combatant ships were given attention in this revised plan, small surface unit construction was throughtly estudied and modified acordingly with the new requirements. The Minekaze class destroyers would be completed with six more units; while two new destroyer classes were planned. The first one, the Kikyō class (composed of 13 units), would be a smaller version of the Minekaze class; while the second class, the Kiyokaze class (composed of 12 units) would be an improved version of the Minekaze class. Further preparations were made for a third destroyer class, but all developement on them stopped. Provisional plans were for the expansion of the submarine fleet; initial measures were the planification of medium submarines ("Chū-gata Sensiukan") of the Kaichū type, 17 units were planned (Ro-16 through Ro-32), of the smaller L type, 14 units were also projected (Ro-55 through Ro-68). A new type of submarine, the cruising submarines ("Junsen-gata sensiukan"), and the first two units (I-1 and I-2) were put on standby, to be laid down in 1925. Lastly, the Large Submarines (Ōgata sensiukan),which were to close the submarine fleet of the 6-6 construction plan, of which 11 units were to be laid down throughout the following decade (I-51 to I-61) 1919 IJN Construction plan / The 6-6 fleet Battlecruiser Amagi class Amagi, Akagi Experimental Aircraft Carriers Hōshō class Hōshō, Shōkaku First Rate Cruisers/Large Cruisers Furutaka class Furutaka, Nasu, Aoba, Kinugasa Second Rate Cruisers/ Medium Cruisers Nagara class Suzuka, Minase, Otonashi Second Rate Cruisers/ Medium Cruisers Sendai class Sendai, Jintsū, Naka, Kako Destroyers Minekaze class Shiokaze, Akikaze, Yūkaze, Tachikaze, Hokaze, Nokaze Destroyers Kikyō class Kikyō, Yuri, Ayame, Kaidō, Kakitsubata, Tsutsuji, Shion, Ajisai, Karukaya, Omodaka, Botan, Bashō, Nadeshiko Destroyers Kiyokaze class Kiyokaze, Soyokaze, Karukaze, Makaze, Ōkaze, Tsumujikaze, Matsukaze, Hatakaze, Oite, Hayate, Asanagi, Yūnagi Large Submarines Kaidai Type I-51, I-52, I-53, I-54, I-55, I-56, I-57, I-58, I-59, I-60, I-61 Cruising Submarines Junsen Type I-1, I-2 Medium Submarines Kaichū Type Ro-16, Ro-17, Ro-18, Ro-19, Ro-20, Ro-21, Ro-22, Ro-23, Ro-24, Ro-25, Ro-26, Ro-27, Ro-28, Ro-29, Ro-30, Ro-31, Ro-32 Medium Submarines L Type Ro-55, Ro-56, Ro-57, Ro-58, Ro-59, Ro-60, Ro-61, Ro-62, Ro-63, Ro-64, Ro-65, Ro-65, Ro-66, Ro-67, Ro-68 Washington Naval Treaty: KEEP IN MIND PLEASE, THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS
Anonymous_Legion posted a topic in Aircraft CarriersThe object of a carrier in war is to provide air cover and destroy enemy shipping protect troops via air cover yet they are slower than the destroyers, battleships and cruisers in this game the objective is to capture a point yet because there is no chain of command everyone scatters in different direction in the game leaving the carriers to defend themselves even at full speed there is no way a carrier can outrun or evade the enemy ships, in game the maps are simply too small and show the carriers too easy on the map. I propose that the capture point be removed in game and the objective of the game is changed to a mode that you have no choice, and that the carrier has to be protected and losing the carrier makes you lose the game. If you think this is wrong i assure you i am not wrong Japan lost the war because they lost their carriers and their ability to provide air cover for ships and troops. i will ignore the part where 2 atomic bombs got dropped on them.
akagikancolle posted a topic in Warship ProjectsI wonder what is your opinion of living again episodes of the pacific war and the Imperial Japanese Navy in only 90-seconds micro visual story. This time is about the famous IJN ace pilot Saburo Sakai. http://remorika.com/visual-tales-of-the-pacific-war-the-legend-of-saburo-sakai/