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  1. I don't know if a topic was previously done before about this topic, but I think it's something we should care about as the Graf Zeppelin was really the only aircraft carrier done by the german Kriegsmarine. This project was intended so that the power of the Kriegsmarine would go further than just the confines of the Baltic seas. This carrier if it would have been finished it could of have been capable of transporting 42 fighters and dive bombers- 12 fighters and 30 dive bombers. It was expected that it would either carry 12 Junkers Ju 87, prepared to land on carriers, and thirty Bf 109 and Fi 167 torpedo bombers. This carrier was 262.5 meters long and an beam of 36 meters, its max. speed was of about 38 knots, about 62 km. The carrier was laid down 28 December of 1936, and it was launched the 8 of December of 1938, when it was 85% completed. Armament The armament was rather simple and did not fit any battery bigger than 15 cm cannons to defend themselves against other warships. 16 × 15 cm SK C/28 guns 12 × 10.5 cm SK C/33 guns 22 × 3.7 cm SK C/30 guns 28 × 2 cm FlaK guns Armor The Graf Zeppelin was finely defended, as at the belt the amount of protection was of 100mm (3.9) in. The flight deck was protected with 45 mm (1.8) in. Now the main deck was a bit better protected than the flight deck with 60 mm (2.4) in. Now my question is, will it be present in the German Kriegsmarine branch tree of World of Warships, or will it just remain as an iconic ship?
  2. Phoenix_Sendai

    [CV update] Squadrons IJN ?!

    Je suis le seul à être très, TRÈS déçu de voir que les CV IJN vont être transformé en base de soutien anti-aériens ? Les "suicide load-out" sont certes à mon gout peu profiteur pour le reste de la team , mais de la à faire un 180° à nous pondre des nouveaux squadrons (pour le Hiryuu/Shoukaku par exemple ) 0-3-3 => 3-1-2, j'ai un léger gout amère dans la bouche ... Je veut dire, même si vous arrivez avec votre unique squadron de torpille, avec le paterne de dispersion il est IMPOSSIBLE de mettre ces 4 torpilles sur un BB qui est d'une la cible prioritaire en temps que CV et de deux qui s'il reste attentif va manœuvré pour en évité au moins une. Pour moi un loadout parfait sur un CV IJN (par exemple Hiryuu/Shoukaku) c'est d'avoir un squadron de fighter (histoire de pouvoir occupé les seaplane-fighters des CA, et pouvoir un minimum protégé les cible potentiel comme un BB en difficulté), ainsi que 2 à 3 squadron de torpedo bomber, et 2 à 3 dive bomber. Donc un loadout 1-2-3 ou 1-3-2. Le loadout sur Hiryuu/Shoukaku qui était avant, celui plus défensif (2-2-2) va devenir la seul possibilité un minimum offensif ? Que vais-je faire de mes parties avec 3 squadrons fighters ? je les envoie en patrouille sur 3 BB et je me fais un thé en attendant que les squadrons ennemis arrives ? Quel est votre avis sur ces modifications qui affecteront presque tout les CVs IJN ?
  3. cosmin

    German Aircraft Carriers

    Do you guys know something about German aircraft carriers ? I read something about the Graf Zeppelin class , and it says that only one was commissioned . (What tier do you think it can fit in ? As a premium or special ship )
  4. What's the reason that Aircraft Carrier players are not able to choose what squadrons they whish to bring on to their carrier? I find it very annoying that to be able to bring 4 squadrons on the fully upgraded Saipan Aircaraft Carrier i am forced to bring 1x Fighters, 1x Dive Bomber and 2x Torpedo Bomber. I get that it would be a ballance issue if you were allowed to fully customize the squadrons and bring aboard 4x fighters or 4x torpedo bombers. Why not allow players to select up to for instance half the total number squadrons on the Aircraft Carrier in question from any one specific type (Torpedo Bombers/Dive Bombers/Fighters)?
  5. Facts and Figures Displacement: 65,000 tons Length: 920ft (280m) Beam: 230ft (70m) Draught: 36ft (11m) Speed: 25+ knots Complement: 682 (up to 1,600 with embarked air group) Propulsion: 2 x Rolls-Royce MT30 gas turbines and 4 x diesel generator sets producing a total of 110MWe Range: 8,000-10,000 nautical miles Armament: Phalanx automated close-in weapons systems,
30mm guns and mini-guns to counter seaborne threats Aircraft: Tailored air group of up to 40 aircraft: F35B Lightning II, plus Merlin and Chinook helicopters Builder: BAE Systems Surface Ships / Thales Group / Babcock Marine Laid down: 7 July 2009 Launched: summer 2014 (planned) Commissioned: early 2017 (planned) Homeport: Portsmouth Motto: Semper Eadem ("Always the Same") Rumours and News 04/11/2013 Britain's two new aircraft carriers are going to cost even more than originally thought, according to the Financial Times. The new price has gone up by an extra £800m. This equates to £3.1bn each, E3.6bn, US$5bn Source - BBC news 22/10/13 Some of the new crew ran from Rosyth dockyard, where the 65,000-tonne warship is over 80% complete, exactly 100 years to the day the only previous bearer of the name was launched. They raised £250 for charity. The previous bearer of the name was a super-dreadnought which served in both world wars. Source - Royal Navy 03/09/13 Current crew complement for the vessel alone is 679 sailors, compared to 3,200 for a Nimitz-class carrier of the U.S. Navy. Harding said such savings were possible through the use of greater automation. He described the weapon-handling system as similar to that found in an “Amazon.com warehouse.” Source - Aviation week References http://www.royalnavy...cts-and-Figures http://en.wikipedia...._Elizabeth_(R08) http://www.aviationw...3_p0-615007.xml http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24801750
  6. RedBear87

    IJN Unryu

    Unryu . Unryu (project G16, ship number 302) was ordered as part of the Rapid Naval Armaments Supplement Programme (Maru Kyu Keikaku) of August 1941, in preparation of imminent hostilities against the United States; after the debacle of Operation MI (Battle of Midway) 15 more ships (#5001–5015) of the same class were ordered under the Modified 5th Naval Armaments Supplement Programme (Kai Maru 5 Keikaku) but only 6 ships, including Unryu, were laid down and of these 3 were completed. Unryu was conceived as a simple medium sized carrier which could be built in larger numbers than Taiho, for this reason her design was based on a modified Hiryu but incorporated both some features of the previous Soryu and some innovations. Main differences compared to Hiryu included island's placement on starboard, like on Soryu, and a slightly larger island's superstructure which was compensated by an asymmetrical hull, with port side deviating from centreline more than starboard; she received two large elevators instead of three like on Soryu and Hiryu, enabling her to operate larger aircrafts under development including the Reppu, Ryusei and Saiun; arrester wires were upgraded to Kusho Type 4 capable of handling the larger aircrafts and three Kusho Type 3 Mk. 10 crash barriers were installed. Hull and flight deck armour were similar to Hiryu, providing very little protection against attacks. Her aviation fuel tanks were integral part of the hull like in previous Japanese carriers, this was a substantial weakness because shocks to the hull were transmitted to the fuel tanks causing fractures and leaks; in an attempt to rectify this issue aviation fuel capacity was reduced to 1/3 and the space surrounding the tanks was filled with concrete. Flammable materials such as linoleum used in previous carrier were eliminated, fire-resistant paint was used and fire-extinguishers were improved by adding 2% of soap solution as stabiliser to the foam mixture. Steering and steering gear were better armoured and hangar ventilation was improved. Hiryu's semi-balanced rudder proved to be problematic, it was thus decided to use Soryu's outward inclined fully balanced twin rudders. Unryu was equipped with the same machinery that was used for Soryu and Hiryu, four sets of cruiser-type turbines capable of delivering 152,000 shp connected to four shafts, giving Unryu a top speed of 34 knots during trials. Initial armament layout included 6 twin Type 89 12.7cm DP guns and 93 Type 96 25mm AA guns (21 triple mounts and 30 single mounts), six 28-barrel 120mm AA rocket launchers were added during a refit sometime in 1944. Compared to this massive AA layout the number of directors was limited to only two Type 94 directors for the Type 89 guns, installed port amidships and abreast the island, and six Type 95 directors for the triple mounted 25mm guns. Her initial radar suite included two Type 21 air search radars and one Type 13 air search radar, an additional Type 13 was installed later. . History: Unryu was laid down at Yokosuka Navy Yard on 1 August 1942 and she was commissioned on 6 August 1944, her first and only skipper was Captain Kaname Konishi, veterarn commander of light cruiser Abakuma and two destroyer divisions; she missed Operation Sho-Go (Battle of Leyte Gulf) because of a lack of both aircrafts and trained pilots, spending her time in the Inland Sea without embarking a full airwing. Some consideration was given to deploying her in limited escort and plane transport missions but the loss of both the escort carrier Shinyo and "super carrier" Shinano showed that submarine attacks were a too great threat. This uneventful life came to an end on 13 December 1944 when MacArthur's invasion fleet was sighted in the Sulu Sea and the Japanese command started fearing that the long waited invasion of Luzon was imminent. To counter it Unryu was ordered to ferry 30 Ohka rocket powered kamikaze aircrafts. Her small taskforce included two newly built Matsu class destroyers, Hinoki and Momi, of Desdiv 52 and the legendary Shigure, famous for being an unsinkable ship and the sole survivor of many battles, that joined them on 15 December. Sailing day was set for 16 December but it was delayed to the following day when it was discovered that the Americans were landing at Mindoro rather than Luzon. They finally departed on 17 December with a load of planes, suicide boats, some soldiers, passengers and most importantly the deadly Ohka. Despite picking enemy radar waves twice and changing course accordingly the small taskforce was not under risk of surface or air attacks because TF38 was wrestling against Typhoon Cobra during those hours; but Kaname had no way to know this and he was worried because of the low visibility caused by the bad weather. On the morning of 19 December the taskforce narrowly dodged a mine but it was on the afternoon of that day that they met USS Redfish (SS-395) under Commander L.D. McGregor off the Chinese coast, he was alerted beforehand by Ultra intelligence about the presence of an important enemy taskforce moving southwards. The American submarine was sighted by a Japanese patrol plane that dropped a depth charge, but the scout plane merely gave to the American captain the confirmation that the enemy taskforce was near. It managed to get close and at 16:29 the Japanese taskforce positioned herself on a 30 degree starboard angle on the bow of Redfish, a near perfect position, McGregor didn't even have to modify his approach to launch his salvo of six torpedoes 8 minutes later. Just some minutes before the submarine had been finally detected by Unryu, but almost immediately after that they received visual and acoustic confirmation of the torpedo salvo coming from 30° starboard; Kaname ordered Unryu on a maximum starboard turn at full speed and the fast carrier responded quickly, they saw three torpedoes passing ahead them, but the fourth hit Unryu under the forward part of the island. Boiler room n°1 and 2 were flooded, fires broke out in the hangar and n°2 crew space, but the worst damage was the shattering of the main steam pipe which caused pressure to drop, extinguishing all but boiler n°8. Unryu was soon dead in the water and her electrical power failed as well. The ship was listing 3° to starboard but it was in no imminent danger of sinking. McGregor on Redfish noticed it as well and he was determined to finish her off, but Hinoki was coming rushing towards him; Redfish fired her four stern torpedoes against the Japanese destroyer but they were dodged. Thus McGregor was sitting near a destroyer without any torpedo tubes. The increasingly daring American captain decided to ramain at periscope height, something Hinoki's captain failed to detect, and waited for one torpedo to be reloaded. Finally at 16:50 he fired it against Unryu. Meanwhile damage control on Unryu was progressing well, the fire in the quarters' room was extinguished and electrical power returned after the emergency generators were started; a fire broke out inside n°8 boiler room and it had to be shot down but it was compensated by boilers n°5,6 and 7 restarting successfully. Soon steam pressure was back to regular values and the list was kept in check by pushing overboard trucks and other equipment stored on the flight deck. Unryu was back underway. But just as the ship started moving again the new torpedo was sighted to starboard; gunners desperately tried to stop it, without success. The torpedo hit near the elevator room and near the ammo, aviation fuel tanks and materials store rooms. The ensuing explosions devastated the bow area and the ship quickly started listing to starboard. The situation appeared immediately hopeless and the order to abandon ship was given. Captain Kaname remained at his place while his untested crew gave him one last reason of pride when they calmly collected on the already oblique deck and shouted "Banzai! Long Live the Emperor!" three times, before trying to save themselves. Some gunners remained on their positions, shooting against the enemy submarine's position until the very end. Unryu sank in just 7 minutes and only 146 persons were saved while Hinoki kept trying to avenge the carrier; Redifish was damaged but after touching the bottom McGregor waited for two hours and narrowly escaped just after sunset. Shigure kept searching for Redfish during the night and on the following morning a failure of her steering motor valves forced Lt. Cmdr. Manabu to return back to Sasebo instead of following the other two destroyers to China and Philippines as planned. This ended up being the last time Shigure survived her whole taskforce, as Hinoki and Momi were sunk in the Philippines on 5 January by surface and air forces attacking Luzon; Shigure's luck, or perhaps curse, finally came to an end at the end of the same month when she was torpedoed by USS Blackfin. . Chronology: Builder: Yokosuka Naval Arsenal, Yokosuka Operators: Imperial Japanese Navy Plan: Rapid Naval Armaments Supplement Programme Laid down: 1 August 1942 Launched: 25 September 1943 Commissioned: 6 August 1944 Fate: sunk, 19 December 1944. Struck: 20 February 1945 . General characteristics: Ship type: aircraft carrier Ship class: Unryu class Displacement: 17,480t standard load, 20,450t during trials Total length: 227.35m Beam: 22m Draft: 7.86m Installed power: 152,000 shp (113,000 kW) Propulsion: 4 shafts, 4 geared steam turbine sets, 8 Kampon water-tube boilers Maximum speed: 34 knots Fuel: 3670 of heavy crude oil Range: 8,000 nautical miles at 18 knots Complement: 1,556 Sensors and processing systems: 2 × Type 21 air search radars; 2 × Type 13 air search radars; 1 × Type 93 sonar; 2 × Type 0 hydrophones Armament: 6 × 2 – 12.7 cm/40 Type 89 dual purpose guns; 21 × 3, 30 × 1 – 25 mm Type 96 AA guns; 6 × 28 - 12 cm (4.7 in) AA rocket launchers Armor: belt: 48–140 mm; deck: 25–56 mm Aircraft carried: 1942 plan: 12 + 3 Mitsubishi A6M, 27 + 3 Aichi D3A, 18 + 2 Nakajima B5N; 1944 plan: 18 + 2 Mitsubishi A7M, 27 Aichi B7A, 6 Nakajima C6N (on the deck) Armament for aircrafts: 72 x 800kg bombs, 240 x 250kg bombs, 360 x 60kg bombs, 36 x Type 91 Mod. 6 aerial torpedoes (6 torpedoes could be handled at the same time) Aviation facilities: flight deck: 216.9x27.0 m; upper hangar: 175.0x21.0x?m; lower hangar: 130.0x21.0x?m; 2 elevators (15.0x14.0m, 6.5t); aircraft fuel stowage: 216,000l . . . Japanese aircraft carrier Unryu on 19 December 1944, photo by USS Redfish (SS-395) . . Unryu's schematics . Other ships of the class: The other ships of this class never saw real operational use, Amagi was hit by several American airstrikes that first caused her to settle on the bottom in shallow waters and then capsized her, she was later partially salvaged and scrapped. Katsuragi was also damaged by air attacks but she was repaired after the war and used as repatriation vessel in 1946, she was struck from the navy list on 15 November and scrapped from 22 December 1946. Kasagi was 84%, Aso 60% and Ikoma 60% completed when work on them was stopped, Aso was expended in July 1945 as target for suicide boats, but she was later salvaged and scrapped between 1946 and 1947 like her sisters. Katsuragi and Aso were fitted with Kagero class destroyer machinery but, Katsuragi speed dropped of only a couple of knots during trials, despite their output was just 2/3 of the Suzuya/Ibuki type machinery installed on Unryu and Amagi; both Katsuragi and Aso also had the CNC (Copper Non-Cemented) steel of the belt armour replaced with high tensile Ducol steel. There were small differences between the equipments of the completed carriers and in particular Katsuragi received radar detectors (Type E-27 radar detector and Model 3 radar detector), anti-surface fire control radar (Type 22 Modify 4) and experimentally carried a land-based Type 14 early warning radar. Ikoma is sometimes classified as a subclass because of her shift-arrangement machinery and other modifications including improved bomb hoists and a new electrical system using 440V alternating current. . Final considerations: These ships were completed too late to see any action because of a lack of aircrafts, trained pilots and fuel, but one can only wonder what would have happened if mass production of similar ships carriers based on Soryu/Hiryu design had started just a pair of years before the war in place of expensive and ultimately useless super-secret behemoths like Yamato and Musashi. . Notes: Sources on this class are conflicting as usual, in particular some sources conflict on the configuration of the 25mm AA guns but most seem to agree on the 21x3+30x1. I think it's worth mentioning that except for Unryu (Cloud Dragon), these carriers are named after mountains, which were previously used for battlecruisers and heavy cruisers, I couldn't find any explanation for this change. . Sources: English and Japanese wikipedia pages CombinedFleet's Tabular record of movement, Anthony Tully's article and Kojinsha n°6 translation Navypedia Hirootoko's blog for the colourised pictures FMG for the illustrations
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