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Huh? So spend money to make money? How does this work? How much do I have to pay for the gold pack?

Thanks for the tips Zimbye, oh I will stick with it. Radar Edinburgh is extremely unforgiving of mistakes, I usually make it to the end game but in the clutch phases is where I lose due to poor positioning and (in)experience.

Aaaand just like that I can't win a single Edinburgh match today.....damn, I'm terrible.

*slow clap*

Would Neptune be a good ship in ranked (as a radar cruiser) or should I not even bother as I will only be a liability to my team?

I was recently in a ranked battle where some dude on my team said that myself and some other guy on our team were "noobs" and then proceeded to "w" to the center of the map and suicide into the enemy team. I was kinda left scratching my head, but thanks to this thread I now know that there are 3rd party apps that allow you to look at statistics within a match. Just when I thought that this game couldn't get any more ridiculous or frustrating, a thread like this comes along to convince me otherwise...lol....at this point I can only laugh, cos I will not cry over a game.

Yeah that is all good advice. Yeah I'm not a good "anything" player but I do well enough in the radar Edinburgh. :) I don't think I have the boosters or the patience to grind the ship through co-op games to get to the Mino. I'm just gonna have to do it the old-fashioned way, I think I will try it without the smoke and play carefully and if that turns out to be disastrous I'll play her like I did the Fiji, take the Smoke and hope for good DD teammates.

Thanks, I've seen that, but it's a general guide for the line not for the Neptune. I guess I was hoping for something a bit more specific to this ship especially as it relates to the current long range sniping meta.

Hi there, I too would like some advice on the Neptune, and instead of opening a new thread I'll try and post my questions here. Most of the advice given here is quite useful not just for the Neptune but for the whole British CL line, so thanks for that, but my questions are a bit more specific. I am currently on the Edinburgh, and I'm really enjoying that cruiser. Unlike most other people I run it in it's radar configuration, and have done so since day one. (I have also taken the double rudder mods it seems to help with the dodging although it's still a bit sluggish, and no amount of dodging will help you with poor positioning). I find that giving a heads up at the beginning of the match that I'm configured for radar gives me positive results for more productive team play in randoms, and my dds seem to appreciate my efforts to keep the enemy dds spotted or outright killed. So my question is twofold, since I'm quickly approaching the Neptune. Should I stick to using the radar instead of the smoke? I've heard that the Neptune's poor concealment is mostly to blame for it's bad performance. Secondly what mods or upgrades should I run on it? I have to note that I play the Edinburgh very conservatively and as a result usually don't do much damage, unless enemy DDs (and spotting CVs) are very careless. Should I keep running Edinburgh's double rudder mod, or do I go for more concealment? Thanks in advance.

Smoke works, usually, unless it's you know on cooldown because it's almost impossible to have enough smoke to contest caps vs ships, and then also smoke up when carrier planes show up. As for your other advice, it's basically an argument in favor of delegating the spotting role to carriers, also planes move so fast that they are usually able outspot me far enough away that I have no time to react to them, especially in cruisers. If the enemy team is paying attention, and is full of snipers (which seems to be the current meta) it's "time to go to port time" as soon as that happens. I'm not saying I don't have good games in CV games, because I do. But that is usually because the other team's CV is incompetent. Which is basically the flipside of the coin, I feel bad for that dude's team because the match is over in 3 minutes as we completely decimate them. As for games where there are two CVs of equal skill, again it's a crapshoot. It usually devolves into most people sitting behind cover and waiting to see which CV is better at sinking or outspotting the enemy before moving in. Again, no fun to play, unless you happen to be the CV or a lucky dude who manages to devstrike an unfortunate soul who got spotted from 25 km away for a split second as he was moving from cover to cover. Sometimes those games can be fun, but it's very rare to find a game where there are two CVs of equal skill, even in high tier. I know I'm ranting, I should probably just shut-up because nothing will change, but the more I play this game the more this frustrates me.

Can someone please explain to me how I in a DD or a light Cruiser can survive being spotted by a CV? Seriously? A CV player with two braincells doesnt have to drop a single bomb on target to be an extremely effective asset for their team. And there is NOTHING and I mean nothing I can do about it if I'm contesting a cap. It's completely unfair, and frustrating as hell. In any game where there are 2 CVs, the team with the better CV player wins. In games with no CVs the better Team wins. What can I do as a DD or a light cruiser player to change this? How do I position myself? Seriously, I really need help here as I don't know what to do anymore.

I really like the Pommern. It's dispersion is kind of iffy, but overall it's such a great ship for what it does. It's probably better in ranked than in randoms though. I'm on my way to opening the research buro, and I'm really torn on whether to choose the Ohio or the Illinois. From what I've seen, the Ohio is probably one of the best if not the best T10 BBs in the game, and yet...the Illinois looks like it's ridiculously fun to play. I'm really torn on which to pick....

Sorry if this has been asked or answered before, I tried using the forum search function but it doesn't work that well. So how long do we have until free XP ships are removed, as free XP ships? Until Patch 12.4 right? 12.3 is coming in April, so would that be until May? Or thereabouts? I'm currently grinding away that first million so I can get the Groningen, but if it is going to be 30 days or less, I'm in trouble....

Yeah I heard that it's kind of a tough ship to like, but I already like the Edinburgh how bad can it be? :) In any case I've got some blue and red ship boosters saved for that particular ship if push comes to shove. Oh and one final Research bureau question, I have to have 5 Tech lines unlocked to reset one of the lines. I don't have to have all the TierX ships purchased and in harbor right? I want to save the credits and don't want to buy the Zao, and if possible don't want to buy the Harugumo until I reset the line twice.

I don't mind difficult, learning from experience is best. I see now that the Edinburgh can actually stealth radar (with the concealment upgrade) but I'm even considering running dual steering gear mods for when the need arises to dodge incoming. Anyway, thanks for the tips.

I just unlocked the Edinburgh (haven't played it yet) would it make sense in using the Edinburgh (and then the Neptune) with radar instead of smoke, to get the hang of how the Radar Minotaur would play? Or is it something that is best avoided until I get the Minotaur? The Fiji for example was a fairly unwieldy cruiser, it had trouble speeding up and slowing down even with the acceleration mod, and it's rudder shift speed was not great.

That depends. It might be worth it for the economic rewards (Steel, Coal, RB points, boosters etc.) even if the dockyard ship ends up being crap.

Here is my 2c as a very new and casual player (less than 1000 battles) I don't want a longer grind. The grind is already punishing enough that I have to run a Premium Account + Battle Pass (I only buy it if I make it to the end) so that the grind becomes at least manageable for me. Most people are casual gamers like myself, who can't play this game for more than an hour or two each day, or even less. This change is not going to be a net positive in player retention, I expect making the grind more punishing is only going to push away people who are on the fence. I also think that Wargaming knows this, this change will let them get more money in the time it takes the casual player to lose interest in the game, because they can see the stats and the stats are telling them this is the way to maximize profit.

Let me guess, only available in random lootbox drops...... If they made this a proper premium coal ship, doubloon ship or whatever I would be very interested in purchasing it. (Even though the skin is extremely tacky)

They can't be serious...this is a terrible change.

Minotaur is something I'm going to enjoy learning. Meanwhile I'm having a lot of success n the Ibuki, the Japanese cruiser line has in fact pretty good to me. I wonder how the Japanese gunboat line is going to play out...

I think I can manage to grind out the free XP in the time remaining, it's just that I don't think I will have the time available to grind out the actual ship lines. I might be able to stretch it, but it's no biggie if I don't. Even without the x4 reset, I should have more than enough RB points to get any one ship in the RB with just one x2 reset.

Wait what? So these are always timed exactly the same, no matter when you use them? Damn I wish I had the time to get there in 19 or 20 days. I seriously doubt I will be able to manage it by then, I was thinking that it would take me a month, but maybe it's possible? No...no way, I need to get three lines to Tier X, no way I can do that in less than 30 days.

That is true, but by that time I think I should have saved enough up. Credits are by far the easiest currency to earn and farm in this game, at least IMO. As long as you have a few credit T9 farming ships or premiums and a premium account. Which I do.

I do need 5 tech trees up to tier X to use the RB anway right? Okay....I currently have two Tier X tech lines researched, the Daring and the Schliefen. I'm also up to Tier IX Ibuki (only just unlocked her) and the British CL Tier VIII Fiji. So basically I need to unlock the Zao, the Minotaur, and then tech up the Japanese gunboat destroyers. And then, and only then would I reset the Japanese destroyer lines to get the 2x bonus.... Hmmmm actually this doesn't sound too bad. By the time I get all these lines to Tier X, I "should" have enough Free XP to reset the Japanese gunboat destroyer line twice, this would net me 30K (2x Bonus + 10k), plus the 10K from unlocking the RB. So 40K, and I already have 14K on my account from the various "rewards" I managed to accumulate from the battle pass schenanings etc. So if my math is right, 60k RB points....probably more. Is my math right? I think so, if I understand the mechanics correctly. But please correct me if Im wrong. This is in fact a "much" better deal than the groningen. It is going to take some time, but it's not an impossible "multi-month" thing that I thought it was, and more importantly it wont require me to regrind any of the lines twice. The Ibuki is supposed to be a decent T9 cruiser, the British CL line is crazy fun, and the Japanese gunboat destroyers well no idea how they play like, need to look into that a bit.... Thanks dude, I think you convinced me. Kudos.