DangerMouseWales

I think they need to do something about this, the sub relies upon its ping if you are to be effective under water and well its just broken, battle ships with plane depth chargers can zoom the camera right out and see the ping visible on the surface which should not happen. I have to admit the DD aspects are bang on the money they should be a real threat but BS that far out 1 shot killing you with a plane depth charge isnt. Its also not balanced because the U69 cant kill a BS, they can outrun the torps (and they do no where near enough damage) even if you do get a lock, and dont get me started on the Tier 8 sub being far worse on the important stats after realising this wasting 90K XP trying to get into it. SUB game goes one of 2 ways, you get lucky and have ships without the plane depth chargers and you can get some good hits in, or you just spot because using the ping in these matches is suicide otherwise. I have also mastered the double ping, but it makes no difference other than the time its locked which they can just clear anyway (and thats if you can survive the 10 depth charges from planes heading your way) I have to admit I was looking forward to playing with these but its left my extreamly frustarted and I will not be re newing my premium subscription. On a side note I do agree with the modules that allow detection (which is how it should be) not by zooming out to see 40% of the map and locking on the stupid ping animation on the surface.

thats because DD tend to throw torps around in the hope of hitting something by chance, I could sit around and just launch torps every 45 secs in the hope of hitting something and my % would be much lower and a DD throws out twice as many torps in 1 go and has a faster reload time

Perfect I will take a look thank you at the very least perhaps where I am going wrong can be pointed out

I think the best thing here is to record videos and actually show you it happening my torps have an extreamly poor hit rate even with double pings, and I will show you getting smashed by plane depth chargers more than 8KM away so no I am not wrong. And yes I have not played BS because I switched to subs because it was an interest of mine. Being as you took the time to look at my stats (and thank you) you will see me torps have a hit rate of 16%

OK 15 mins then, it feels like 30 haha I am always moving I never stay static, but the chargers hit me everytime from planes the sub is very slow and it cant avoid them.

Well all being said, The fact other subs and ships can dodge a double pinged lock is also stupid. Its a shame I wasted so much time on it, I was really looking forward to it. I dont expect loads of kills but im getting none, and I am staring at a IN BATTLE symbol for 30 mins everytime I am depth charged to hell. Just my opinion of course and others might like its style but its not for me and I am not investing anymore time or money changing to something else now.

yeah it may have been closer, I think the ping trace general direction is probably better than horseshoe it should give the defender the general direction not a pin point accurate location (without using dedicated modules for this purpose) its made it WAY to easy to kill subs, there is no defence against being bombed by planes because they know exactly where you are and you have no way to avoid them even at 60m depth. The subs are no threat to BS because my torps when they do hit do so little damage it would take 5 vollies to take them down, im lucky if I get one off without detection. If thats how subs are then like I said before I have wasted a massive amount of time, and I wont be putting another £ into the game because of it. My enjoyment has been ruined, I cant really effectvely spot anymore now because a CV can launch a drone that spots everything anyway.

I can see the ping traces coming towards me, i have lost count of times I have been plane depth charged to hell when it was impossible the BS could see the horse shoe, what they are doing is zooming right out and seeing a massive section of the map (birds eye view) which is an unfair advantage its just not balanced. I agree with every other aspect however. The match I just played I only pinged once, and within 4 seconds I have 4 depth charger planes on my position droping 8 charges which was impossible to dodge. a BS 15KM away (i was at periscope depth) should not have seen that horseshoe and hit me with pin point accuracy with several planes. This is happening to me almost every game now. Granted if spotted your gurantee to be dead, but its rare i get spotted unless its by a DD I got to close to or didnt see because of its ability to hide.

you do need the ping if you are attacking from depth, surely that is the whole point of a sub. if you do not ping at depth the torps just stay at depth and dont hit the ships on the surface and they fan out. Its the ping animation that is my issue, and the fact the BS should not be able to zoom the camera out that far by using some sort of bug on the edge of the map. If the BS is looking in your direction with the normal camera and spots the ping wizzing through the water then yes fair enough, but that is not what is happening