totally_potato

Ok, so this might get a little controversial. I had a fun time in Felix mostly derping around shooting AP. But recently, the concealment build has not been favoring me. I used to ambush cruisers and DDs with the concealment, however now I am getting spotted from CVs pretty much all the time, and the smoke while it helps me farm longer, having 4 seems like a waste. Almost never get to use the remaining four. This is what I ran till now. (for some reason the game doesn't allow me to use snipping tool so I have to use this site) I tried to support DDs, and while that did work, they ofc do stupid yoloing and I have to abandon them, and then combined with the points I have mentioned above. So I recently reset the commander and started using this captain on Z-52 line. I have a spare 21 point commander that I used on Z-39 and I want a proper build this time so that I don't have to reset again. This is what I am planning to put on, but I am not sure which to put on:- I am particularly fond of this build coz good reload with high AP volleys, and if I have to use HE, atleast I have good fire chance and pin for consistent dmg. So guys, which one should I go for. Or suggest me a better build than these. I want to bring out the full potential out of these DDs. I really am tempted for conceal but I just can't fit it without losing Damage. So what should I do?

Atleast Chesire guns can punish cruisers hard and her HE shells are amazing, and she has amazing AA defense. This ship has neither.

First cruiser Z-31 can win against? Well this seems like food for the new German DDs. I wonder why it was released

Its fine. DDs are high risk high reward ships. But a DD is nothing without a cruiser to lockdown a cap (unless you are a special premium or are german), and a BB to take the fire and slug it out and distract the opponents while you use the torps to strike blows. Also DDs are countered hard by cruisers in high tier ranked And a good BB can also counter DDs FDG torp beats come to mind

Only CV I play is the German CVs tbh. Relatively, they actually are quite fun to play and easy to counter if ppl play right. I also have FDR and MI but honestly I have stopped playing these two, becoz Max is kinda boring and so is FDR, which is not only boring but insanely stupid as a powerhouse. On Germans, this is what I run so that's all the info I can give as an average player. https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PGSA110&modules=12221&upgrades=121411&commander=PGW103&skills=5776010&flags=255&consumables=11&pos=0 I actually do push in with MvR late game since its tanky enough to survive for a while, and I use the secs to wreck things while keeping the guys lit up I do use different captains for Graf Zeppelin and Erich Lowenhardt For Graf:- https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PGSA518&modules=11111&upgrades=221320&commander=PCW001&skills=5837832&flags=735&consumables=11&pos=0 Graf is just not a good CV. But it can be a good BCV. I use it as a support ship for other players using secs and planes. Her torp bombers are quite good, and her rockets are somewhat useful so i use them only. I just forget I have AP bombers unless I have a BB threat. As for Lowenhardt https://wowsft.com/ship?index=PGSA506&modules=11111&upgrades=121400&commander=PCW001&skills=1630730&flags=735&consumables=11&pos=0 Play it like a fusion of Graf and Max. Bomb the goddamn lolibotes, hit the cruisers hard with rockets, and use the torps against the teens and adults. And usually late game, I am pretty much a CL with better survivability trying to suck the last drops of ship HP with secs and planes. Do it 90% of the time and hence a CV sec build works well, atleast on the Germans I hope its mostly clear regarding German CVs. Idk and Idc about the other CVs.

One German BBs are close to mid range ships. But there are complications, when getting into that range. Dispersion of the main battery guns is mostly workable hence Germans still are hanging on to their place in the current meta. Two Italian are not brawlers and their secs are absolute garbage. They can't even pin DDs with IFHE ffs. If these 90mm guns had some magical high fire chance, or actual pin, then they could work. If they got quarter pin, it gives them 22.5mm penetration. So they would be good at long range. The 152mm guns could have been give the pin that same tier CLs have (30mm pin), and then thee would be good secs. But WG is crap, so that never happened. If they wanted low pin secs, then atleast give them very very good fire chance. Like 12%-15%. Three The close to mid range doesn't mean 1-2km. And the guns are fairly good from 15km inward, with some 20km dev shots possible. TLDR. Dispersion does matter in all ships especially in the current matter.

The Germans are brawlers and they have American accuracy (without the 6th slot mod). And Tier VIII received a buff to accuracy in the recent patch, a sigma buff to be exact. Lepanto compensates for accuracy by having freaking 12 barrels, and C.C has 16 freaking guns. I have played the Italian line and I have to say that this is the best line to come out in quite recent times (a line is only good when the entire line is filled with good ships and not with lower tiers sucking moth balls while the higher tiers, which cost more in early access, being decent to good). Last good line was I think the European DD line. SAP does high damage and is a very good weapon against angled targets, so she is very very high pin HE with very high alpha but no fires in return. They also makes the SAP balanced. Also gimmicks that can encourage pushing, like crawling smoke. Good armor and more. F.C is a bit of a oddity in the line by having a low no. of guns (kind of like the Yorck of the German line) Also new colorful world? Did it encourage you to snipe colorfully?

Don't have much to talk about here. You can see right here so you be the judge Also I still think giving it a 20-30 second cooldown between individual strikes of the three would balance these a lot

If you judge anything without playing them, then surprises like this shouldn't be well, surprising

I mean most CV players I have faced are what 14? Those CV players whine about CVs being too UP and WG listens to them. Wish I had that much influence. Point is WG balances CVs to make children happy who don't care about balance and only fun and rage when they can't. How sad

Ok Still, would be pretty funny to have one of these monsters in WoWs. Then again, the shockwaves of these guns would knock planes out of the sky, and all 8 shells hit would nuke everything in sight, even a small country. So idk

Thank you?

Sure buddy, sure. The game is very good, thnx to some bad........I mean good reworks

the edited description is funny even tho unintentional And judging from your background, you were probably playing FD or Pommern I usually get 200 or so his out of 1000 or so shells fired so not sure what you build is, situation was, etc. But yeah they need a buff

She does have good AP so you can shoot AP on broadside BBs In most T5 cruisers you can damage for fires Also she has 25mm pin so you can damage the bows and sterns of T5-T4 BBs Tier 6 BBs don't that a lot of empty deck as Superstructures cover it. Shoot the superstructure. The German cruisers shine in that regard coz you pin pretty much everything at that tier

Can't really disagree with you on that. He was honest atleast and spoke his mind. Problem is, he shouldn't have taken to twitter about it. He could have completely kept between himself and his closed ones. He should have known that pretty much a lot of ppl won't agree with him including myself Ofc Flamu found an opportunity to take someone down with him. So he used that, so nothing much to say there. He is a toxic potato baby who keeps whining about everything and no matter how much he says he is glad about getting removed, with this recent interaction, it tells quite the opposite. Still miss the old Flamu btw.

agreed

All three skills have good concepts, but only one has some good execution Outnumbered is a good skill if you have good range and are on the losing flank. However 4 points are a bit too much. I used this on Henri and it worked on it. Its more of a safety skill so Henri with it works well. Venezia also worked with it but that's about it Dazzling, again good concept, but bad execution. 1. Its too expensive, 2. The effect is very little. This could work as a two pointer or even a 1 pointer if combined with IFA. Maybe replace that with some other good skill, like maybe a torp range increase skill for a little speed nerf. But its incredibly overpriced. Heavy HE shells work so well on many ships but that detection increase is a bit too much. Still workable.

The last few stages can't be completed, you have to pay for that. You basically discount the price by taking part in this dockyard

How about this Just respeced it I'd say this is one of the few BBs where I can live without AR. The other being Repub and the German BBs (well I like AR on them but the extra tankiness is so damn important

I actually play sec botes in ranked and I enjoy them And the secs contribute a fair bit with fires and about 30k-50k dmg in the majority of games. Gneisenau ofc has good secs so Imma use them. I am in silver so I am using the same build on Tirpitz and Bismarck. I honestly don't know about Odin coz well, her secs weren't accurate before the commander rework, and now they are just trash, so idk if its worth player her anymore.

Yeah, this one It looks like something Hitler would come up with I mean he also came up with Flugdeckkreuzer This crap and there are designs for that I am coming up with a line for this concept to be added at a late point of the game, which is currently in the works Point is, hitler came up with some nasty crap, so I am pretty convinced H-45 was a dream of Hitler

yeah. Atleast I have a huge credit stock pile, to keep buying them from time to time

I saw some drawing of the ships in some sources. Can't tell if its fiction but seems pretty legit for a Hitler dream since he was quite an oscar winning madman.......Oh wait that's joker, nvm

Yeah keep spamming