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coz shells need to be guided. Once you leave them, there is nothing you can do. A slight coure adjustment can throw off your aim. Planes are the complete opposite

yeah that can be done too I did install the additional instance, 4 years ago when I started playing LUL after my EU account got hacked

that they can strike us no matter what we do?

So a discussion happened a while ago on Mr G's stream on the significance of PT. I personally like PT, and the info it gives. But what are your thoughts on PT? Is it worth the cost of 2 points? How do you find it useful. I know how I find it useful Just wanna know what everyone's take is, on this subject.

we all know that Petro was commissioned in 1990 and used sekrit soviet tech which bends the laws of physics

you need to install additional instance NA Create an NA account Use the glorious WGC and login with that NA account and click play Drink a few shots before going in, coz the BB players there can be pretty retarded. Hope to see you there, sir, coz that's where I play. This account is just for the forums

I would suggest maybe you play the ship first before making up a review. I actually played the whole line on my NA account. You haven't even played it and therefore you opinion is pretty much half baked

which was never the point anyway and that part came out of nowhere. You haven't even played the ship and you come up with such retarded comments. Pretty much 2/3rd of the ship is covered with 25mm plating That is a rough estimate based on how ppl are way more aware then back in 2017. If its not even close, this playerbase is much more retarded than I thought

Significant increase in flak burst and continuous dmg is required. Who knows if WG will do that. In compensation maybe nerf something about the ship? Like maybe gun reload, by half a second (its still bloody fast at 6)

Mino's AA is still pretty powerful Its the americans that got it nerfed significantly

it does take a long time in all DDs, even Harugumos Srsly? How can you hit that little superstructure from freaking 12km? Its relatively big compared to other DDs, that doesn't mean its that big. What if, players wanted a proper beginner line before going for specialisation? Just maybe? Not everyone is a noob now. Arguably about 40% of the player base across all servers can now think and breathe at the same time and have unicum level stats. So either you can check how popular the ship is among them or you laugh your [edited]off, coz that's what you can do when no points are left to deliver from your part.

huh that article was actually jack crap Oh well. Yeah but regarding Yamato weren't there som AA guns which had special AA shells that exploded in front of planes with shrapnel killing them where concept was dope but practically it was crap?

Good vs DD and BB. Bad vs CA when ppl do aim and still hit about 2-4 out of 8 shells, that is definitely not the player at fault. And another useless point about KM DDs. Good job Again, I am not talking about myself here. I meant in general. I made no error this time. What if I tell you the average player whose stats you have taken, what if I tell yo half of them don't even have Khaba, coz they newbies. That's not a popularity issue. Try those same two months unicum players, who are heavily invested and actually know ships quite well looks like posting braindead arguments, which leads to laughter, maybe the culprit here

and you said that the new KM DDs is completely different from soviet DDs which is absolute bs Yes they have good HP to. Say that to my smolensk HP. Much higher DPM goes out of window once it starts hitting the Elbing's armor (aka 2/3rd of the ship). Counter-blessing for you there That's coz you aren't willing to listen, you keep looking for small small points to come out on top of a conversation. The smallest error and you bring it out in order to look strong. That's what you do well, most of the time I may tend to miss those tables, coz your arguments can get so hilarious at times. Anyway lemme have a look at that

yeah radar for that probably Problem is that this is a game not a simulator, so better hydro becoz better electronics means jackshit

I mean I would agree with you on no radar. But the Euro DDs in testing had radar. And this guy wants radar in his line. So introducing a short range long duration radar isn't the worst idea (not saying its the best coz the whole concept of radar is weird, but then again it kept the DDs from getting as OP af). Coz 8km isn't even that far, so you can avoid it. The offset is probably very long cooldown. Not spotter amount of ridiculous but close. So you can sit outside of 8km detecting the ship, and once radar is over (if you can count that is), just go back in and murder it. More of a cap contest/self defense radar than an offensive one of the Russians where the crew shoots potato guns in all directions and if they hit something its detected.

except you didn't say that. You said they are for DD sniping Neither will I have a problem hitting it. And I'll trade better in that regard coz I have a lot of HP and 25mm plating. Then you probably didn't even get the whole point of what I am trying to say here and I won't bother coz some ppl just never learn Nice claim. Kindly show it to me on a silver platter

I remember reading an article saying that Yamato guns were dual purpose. Care to share some light on that

look at Elbing (spahkruzer) and give me your conclusion

Very nice line but too many gimmicks Hell no to 6km hydro (what's the point of German cruisers if you do that). Not SAP. AP is fine. Make it good AP. We have enough HE ships in the game. The infinite DFAA could be short duration (15 secs max), short cooldown with the infinite or large number of charges. You can put torps on the T6 for the sake of the line. Maybe 2x3s?? Repair party is fine. My idea for the radar could be short range (8 km) but very long duration (maybe 60 seconds) with standard number of charges and reload time. There we have a good line

I actually do. The date you took, which you took was 1 or 2 months after Khaba buff. Ppl will now recommend it more, and its gonna get popular again. I am already seeing a fair amount Khabas especially compared to something like Grozovoi, Z-52 (that thing is coming back to common use now), Yueyang, Harugumo, etc. Even Gearing. Its gonna take time to get it popular again. You didn't even consider that conveniently when showing those numbers. You probably don't even know what you are talking about anymore. Both lines are damage farmers. One does it through HE, and one does it through AP. Soviet DDs were designed to provide dmg to the team, and be efficient DD hunters. These new KM DDs were designed to provide dmg to their team, but efficient CL hunters (Felix) and CA hunters (Elbing), as well as be a pain to BBs. I'll duel any DD depending on the range, utilising that accuracy advantage at longer ranges that you conveniently ignored or spat it and saying its unnoticable to support your argument. Nice try. And at long ranges, try hitting high speed DDs with all shells, every salvo with your 'already accurate' DD.

really? I still find myself and lot of players use CE on BBs.

yes, but remember, there was a gap between when Khaba was hardly played. You saw once per what 15 games? Now she is seen a lot more than before. SO calling her unpopular by some numbers is pointless. That's literally what I proved. Khaba is starting to be played more and more, and the other T10s you showed in your chart, already have a head start. Do you see your error now? wtf do you think the concept of Soviet DDs were for anyways? Let alone these ships Potential DPM is lower. Effective DPM? Let alone lower. Its on par with other DDs, coz while at those ranges RoF will make DDs hit a couple of shells per 5 salvos, these German DDs already are accurate, and hit 4-6 shells per salvo, at a slower rate. There is a slight difference between Effective DPM and Theoretical DPM, one has to consider. Felix for that matter too. If you have heavy AP skill (why wouldn't you) upon 5 overpens you deal 1,989 dmg. On 6 overpens you deal 2,387 dmg. And that's the number of shells you usually land at those ranges. T7 is a turd and I'll pretend that doesn't exist. GJM also has accurate guns and same Ap dmg as Felix. 2k every 6 seconds? Its not that bad. ANd not to mention you can always switch to HE and wreck a couple of modules and deal 2.8-3k dmg per salvo every 6 seconds? Its not too bad.

And then there are many who would say a big no to that. Doesn't mean you are wrong, but doesn't mean we are wrong either. Its contradicting opinions Minority opinion doesn't mean wrong opinion. yeah one's conclusion on a ship after playing it for quite a bit<a lot of players, who are trying to play a shotgun as a sniper. Its like trying to say GK is a bad addition coz it's not as good at sniping as a Yamato. Sure bud, sure

I've got some numbers for you too It shows Khaba is at the middle of the pack when it comes to the number of battles played. She also has mid of the pack WR and highest avg dmg (not counting druid coz she was released this patch). So calling her unpopular is cap and a half You hit with every DD, but these Germans hits more shells on their target especially DDs. Also ofc these guns will miss at times. Its so pin point, that a slight mis aim will miss your shots. But with proper aim you will hit atleast 5 out of 6 shells at around 12 km. Try that in any other 6 gun armed DD. And while you can't cap. Doesn't mean you can't spot. If you have to face a DD, you can just bait him to shoot you, and your team will either drive him out or kill him. Yes while its hard to fight a DD head on, in particular the full on gunboats, or even the good gunboats with fair torps like Daring, there a number of ways to fight him. The guns on Shima are relatively weak so she isn't supposed to shoot, offensively anyway, unless a DD is chasing it. In Elbing your job is to use your guns, deal dmg, no matter the target. So saying its not supposed to shoot DDs, is completely wrong. She isn't suited to fight DDs on a head to head fight using one ammo braindeadly, but that doesn't mean, if she gets the opportunity she shouldn't shoot them. Her AP on DDs deals on average, 2k dmg, with 4 or 5 overpens on Elbing. So she (or he, coz its German) can do about the same amount of dmg to DD with AP overpens, as other DDs would do with HE. Her HE on full HP, unsaturated DDs, can do a lot of dmg coz she hits more shells.