totally_potato

Yeah They can't reward the tokens for just playing the game, and then those tokens for buying em. They could have just kept the T9 under NDA and still as a test ship.

Holy crap That's a stupid amount of dubs. I haven't bought the ARP Yamato, and I'll probably skip this price tag unless its available for coal or steel or Free XP

1. Plz not another gunboat line that isn't Italian, although the concept is good, but too close to gearing for that regard 2. No radar plz 3. Its not a unique enough concept tbh 4. Can we see a US torpedo boat line instead. That would be nice So many torp boat split left for Germans, Americans, Uk, france, etc

Her HP pool is T8 levels, with crap armor. So a glass canon Also only 6 guns, and the shell velocity is

I was actually think this as a birthday gift for Stalin, so that he can put the russian flag and put it in the russian fleet with his bare hands

even high WR players can't carry games all the time Let alone average players like myself

CLs at T7? Their problem is short range, not reload. Atlanta still murders DDs like a jackass

800mm gustav guns for H-45 when

So 41.9 knots with all that Too slow I would say I was expecting 60

I still hope GK gets the 483mm gun option someday.

and 2 point brisk baby with 10.6km concealment

I mean, for that era, it kind of makes sense. Its better to jump to a caliber, that the others won't be able to reach for a while, and be the kind of weapons in WW1, that you would see, crap your pearly pink panties, and faint on the spot. This idea came to me while I was watching the super BB stream (loved it btw)

sorry but the whole point of this game is to get to T10 so ofc, I am gonna talk about them. And T6-8 With 30+ second reload times, you have plenty of time to get out of dodge. Not to mention the horrendous accuracy some of the mid tier BBs have. The RB BBs you are talking about at those tiers is Stras and Hyuga, which can't overmatch much, and they can kill the braindead players faster becoz of that gimmick. At that point its their strength, and your incompetence. There are some fast reloading like Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, PEF, KGV, etc, and only really the Gneisenau has guns with that kind of reload, that can overmatch ships, and there are only 6 of them. Also none of the BBs at those tiers get a reload boost mod, unless you go full range on secs and go for the reload time skill within secondary battery range. And that's the most situational skill I have seen in a while.

Maximum HE shell damage – 7400. HE shell armor penetration - 85 mm. Chance to cause fire – 55%. HE initial velocity - 751 m/s Not quite sure about that not if those cruisers try to counter this thing by angling up. And look at shikishima with 510mm guns. It doesn't overpen nearly as much as one would expect from those big guns

I just wonder if its gonna get very good dispersion on secs. Then we might get away with running accuracy mod, and getting that sweet dispersion down further.

wait wait wait Don't just follow one's opinion as your own. Let's wait how these ships are going to be Weak plating yes, but that doesn't mean weak armor. We don't know about what kind of armor profile they will get, we don't know how well the cit might be protected, we don't know anything about the deck armor. Remember Petro and Stalingrad are the tankiest cruisers in the game despite having weaker bow and stern plating the the other T10s. Bad accuracy? No. Its good dispersion with bad sigma so. So average is how I'd put it. High amount of secondaries is perfectly well advertised. They didn't say whether those secondary guns are large caliber or not. Debatable AA is true, and while the torps are slow they are fairly well concealed and do a good chunk of dmg. Not saying they are ideal, but try to look at the bright side. The premium T6 DD looks like a Gaede 2.0. Fairly good torps, guns look nice, it has heal, speed boost, no hydro and or smoke tho which is sadge. And it has good HE too, so this might be a good ship They didn't show the dispersion values yet, so we better hold our opinion on that. And 88mm secondaries at low tiers, are perfectly reasonable. They have 15mm pen if standard pen, and if german pen then 22mm pen. Idk which one it is, but worst case scenario let's take the former. Most of the DDs at those tiers have less than that threshold. Its only really gonna be bad at T6 you have a 2 pointer IFHE to take. And the fire chance is so ridiculously low in the first place that a 1 pointer, and two flags will get that fire chance back. So definitely not "ignorable", unless you are trying super hard to make your statement stand. And idk about accuracy, but the higher tiers have Graf zeppelin casemates. Whether that indicates Graf zeppelin accuracy or not, is beyond me, but its better to stay positive, but prepare for the worst just in case. I had already assumed the fire chance and HE pen on Incomparable are going to be ridiculous as hell, but they surprised me and gave it standard 20 inch HE. So let's just hope for the best, prepare for the worst in this case.

Ok so they have guns that have BC dispersion but bad sigma. Idk how well it will work. Maybe it gives them good accuracy, so that they can kill their targets, before taking too much dmg coz these are BCs and they aren't designed to take dmg as the HP and bow and stern plating show. The lower tiers, and the T10 are faster relative to other BBs, but the T7, T8 and T9 are not. Their consumable choice is pretty good actually. But you gave them the new German DD line torps, and that too with a long reload. They are good torps, don't get me wrong, but they were good on the gunboats you presented, they aren't going to be good on these BCs, coz they are designed to speed around, and surprise the enemy, so fast torps would be my idea of surprise, not slow ones. You can just give the standard Z-52 torps to these ships with the standard German reload, and we are good. So the concept is currently like this:- Key features of the German battleships: The availability of decent number of slow torpedoes with a good range. Low number of main battery guns, with low range, good dispersion but bad sigma, and good reload A large number of secondary guns with high accuracy. (No idea about this tbh) Low visibility. (More like decent visibility) Availability of the "Hydroacoustic Search" consumable similar to that of German cruisers. Availability of the "Fast Damage Control Team" consumable with an accelerated reload time, relative to the standard "Damage Control Party". You need to tweak the speed on the higher tier ships, as well as make them decently fast torps. Maybe improve the sigma a bit, and we are good. I won't give a final opinion on them, as Ik stats aren't everything and you proved that quite a few times with the Aistrike and German DDs I just hope we get to see this new concept flourish, as I have been wanting BCs for a while. Not necessarily German, i was expecting british, but German is fine too.

this line is coming after the soviet CVs so there is a fair amount of balancing time. But eh, I am happy that we are finally getting a BC line

can we plz have a different German BB. Every German BB is a brawler, and there is no variety. Americans get brawlers, snipers and normal mid range BBs, the French get them, the Japanese get them. Why is German just filled with brawlers All that aside, if they want to make this ship succeed, they have to give it atleast 62K HP, and good gun accuracy to make up for the lackluster shells. I did notice that Brandenburg has a bit better armor than Bismarck, but idk how much of a difference it will make.

yeah its a type of ship. Why didn't they add this in Halloween Its gonna be the ultimate cruiser hunter, but then again that's what BCs were for. It might be kinda crap against a BB 1v1. Coz big guns or not, the HP and armor look crap, so a couple of good salvoes from a BB is all you need. Now you can't push in into one of these ships, but if its armor is crap, you can stay at mid range and dev this thing like all hell loose And surprisingly, no British HE. Its standard 20 inch HE, which is still pretty good, but it would have been way worse.

Airstrike is a utility area denial tool. That's how it is designed, that's it should be use, that's how it is used. And Haarlem double strike reload individually, so at the beginning of the battle it has the airstrike advantage, but for the rest of the battle it mostly doesn't. And the speed boost allows it to quickly flank into a vulnerable spot of the enemy and take advantage of that. And if you keep bringing up hydro as a game changing utility tool, then Hindenburg is probably a cruiser with amazing utility or something. The role of this ship, as far as I understood, is just like any other cruiser. Deal enough damage to make the difference, and the D7P has the tools to make use of that dmg more. I still don't understand why you are comparing two cruisers, with completely different roles. Haarlem is a close range heavy/super cruiser meant to be up close and deny a particular area of the map. D7P is a mid range damage dealer with a bit of area denial.

Yeah I am not really sure. So many DDs, HE spammers are coming back, CV still exists, and rockets are still excellent for setting fires and chip damaging. If BBs do come back, then we might finally have a balanced class distribution for the first time in a while, atleast until subs join the party.

can you check the number of BBs played in randoms and ranked only, since idk which site to check. Grand battles won't last forever. I am generally talking about BBs in randoms Also, imma be honest, as a BB main for 4 years, I am sad to say this but BBs are boring now. The secondary ships ofc work in ranked, but in randoms its so boring. The number of DD players kinda sky rocketed, cruisers are coming back becoz so many DDs to kill. CVs aren't dead. They are still broken. And now their main target is mostly BBs, so BBs can't push, and neither can camp. So they aren't completely utterly dead. But they are far less popular that they once were.

So connecticut is basically a Vermont that got bored in the backline sniping and decided to be a German BB, and worked day and night to get increased plating but its shells got stolen so it had to do with worser shells Its a Vermont with increased armor but worser AP (lighter shells with lower alpha but higher velocity) My question is, how much of a difference will increased plating make for Vermont?? Its so round that angling never mattered, and its still slow. Not speaking out of my arse. The stats are here It still has some the horrible 40 second reload, slow speed, and round shape. It can be spotted from the moon too I have some suggestions for this ship although idk whether its just a testing ground, or an actual work in progress premium, or whether WG just gives a crap. So a brawling BB needs a couple of the following things. Good chunk of HP (important) Good armor (important) with a well protected citadel (not that important but nice to have) Good pen at short distances, with reliable accuracy at those ranges (not that important but nice to have) Good gun handling (quite necessary) Enough speed (important) Average concealment atleast (important) Additional source of dmg aka some main battery gimmick, or secondaries or torps Vermont/Connecticut has no. 1, half of no. 2, and maybe number 3 (that doesn't matter that much tbh) So I suggest improving her speed, to atleast 27 knots Reducing her reload time and improving her gun handling Give her some good secondaries. Give her the American repair party. As compensation make her guns accuracy questionable. That should do.

If the armor on this thing is crap as hell, then I am fine, coz atleast I can fight back.